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I'm sorry, that is completely fucking absurd. Maybe it's nearly impossible to you to listen to art created by dicks and enjoy it, but you're in the minority. I listen to plenty of Jazz musicians who were unfaithful and abusive to their wives. Hip-hop created by violent thugs. Classical composed by upper class drama queens of questionable morale character. experimental rock created by pompous, pretentious pricks. It does not affect my enjoyment of the art whatsoever. It is simply laughable to say their art directly comes from their hatred of transgendered people - as if there is nothing else to them besides what you don't like. Like I said, I think Whirr sucks, but if you can't appreciate art created by morally questionable people, you might be looking for a buddy, not an artist. to me, artists have no obligation to be nice folks who I'd like to get beers with. That's not what I look for in an artist - I look for good music that makes me feel something. Is sonic youth artistically discredited because Moore was cheating on Gordon? Is "American Pie" a shit song because Don McLean is a notorious asshole? More importantly, who the fuck cares what artists do in their personal lives? Are we not above tabloid-style gossip and witch hunts? Priorities, guys. Jesus.

Fucking Ben.

oh my god. Shut the fuck up.

all the people selling their whirr and shit aren't really, they're just saying that on an internet message board for e-respect

I haven't read every post in this thread yet but wanted to make a few things clear. - When I defended the band on Tumblr, I was referring to their shit talking of Pitchfork. Should I have been defending them at all? Definitely not. I had never (and still have never) seen the band say the word "faggot" or post anything transphobic until last night. That doesn't excuse the other stupid and offensive things they have said, but at one point in my life I felt that we had so many bands, and worked with so many individual people, that it was fundamentally impossible for everyone to have opinions in line with my own. This was a very naive and even harmful outlook to have. I realized that is not the way to approach these sort of situations and that as soon as anyone feels unsafe, marginalized, disrespected, threatened, or unaccepted, that whatever is happening is not ok. - All Whirr and Camera Shy merchandise will be removed from our store, we're working on it. - This is not a PR stunt. We are not dropping them to save face. We are not ceasing to work with them because of the hate we got on twitter, we simply hadn't seen the bands tweets yet until we were notified by the general public. We would have made this exact decision on our own, although the thousands of people tweeting at us definitely made it happen faster. If you have any questions, comments, or simply want to talk about this with me, please feel free to email me. [email protected]. I will respond to everyone so don't feel that your time may be wasted. Thank you. -jeff

Can't believe there are people who aren't digging this. They took everything that was great about the EPs and amplified it. It's exactly what I was hoping for. In a world where people lose their shit over movie OSTs, hot topic splatter represses, and whatever the hell twiabp is doing it's refreshing to have a loud/raw album hit VC this hard. Reminds of the good ol' days.

Everyone that hates Whirr now should check out Night School. They're like the inverse of Whirr with only the old singer and a new band. Also an LP about to drop. https://graveface.bandcamp.com/album/night-school-heart-beat

(Formerly) WHIRR fans right about now? (Worst. MS Paint Job. Ever)

This band is beyond overrated

Get it Cuz I broke 3000 My poor PhotoShop skills and bad puns won't get me far...

got a seinfeld tattoo the other day. pretty stoked on how it turned out

Hehe. My favorite part of the auction was "I hate to part with it..." Seems like he left out the "... but I knew when I bought it I could sell it for a bunch so here we are..."

Picked up the regular James Flames. Next up that box set. Goodbye $200.

Word, just saw that, but not everybody is part of that thread, and we want to get the word out as much as possible!

There's that word again, heavy

no, that was you. fuck that guy.

Are you aware of what "straw man" actually means? How on earth is my post a "straw man" fallacy when it was a direct response to this quote: Is what I said not a direct response to that?

I've never heard even a second of a Whirr song. Just want to say that when it comes to artists being shitty, it's one thing to enjoy a Beatles song despite their history of domestic abuse. It's another thing to directly financially support an artist in 2015 saying shitty things. Whether or not you listen to the Beatles does not affect the members at all. Whether or not you give money to an independent artist actually has an effect. I'm not saying do or don't, just that it's a case where speaking your opinion with your wallet is possible. There's also a huge difference between enjoying art and supporting it. If you like the tunes, listen. Just think about where your money is going if you decided to pay for something. I understand why RFC didn't do this, but I would have been fine with it of their decision had been to sell off the remaining stock of Whirr shit at some kind of discount, with some of the money going to charity. I feel for a small label having to eat that kind of investment. Like Broken World had to do with that David Belli split because the other artist turned out to be a sexual predator.

I understand how free speech works, guys... The question I'm posing is: Isn't it equally (if not more) hateful to wish death on someone than to make fun of them for their gender orientation? As a society are we really going down this road where it's less acceptable to be politically incorrect than it is to wish harm on another human being, even if they are shitty people? Again, I don't agree with what Whirr said, but aren't these people equally guilty of hate?

i just deleted the bass tracks from all my albums.

this is the first and only time i'll ever chime in on this issue, but as a trans woman, and to put it lightly, fuck this band

If anyone needs a digital download of this you can have mine. www.subpop.com/download_code 9mfw2mc64jj8

I'll give it a try. I wasn't sure if people wouldn't want them folded or anything. I will see if the newsagents near where I work have them in the morning. If they have them, I'll grab a handful.

It just so happens that my euro 180g pink copy arrived today as well, so I compared it to the pale violet deluxe I picked up at the show. All around, I'd say that the violet press is the overall winner. The pink is pretty washed out and plain looking, as everyone else has stated. It arrived in fairly good shape for a record shipped from Europe to Vancouver, no bends or creases though there is a bit of a seam split on the gatefold and the inner sleeves, and the cardstock is pretty flimsy, the edges have a couple small dents. The records themselves are fine. It's nice that it came in a resealable poly sleeve, though lighter than I usually use, and the inner sleeves have an antistatic lining, which the deluxe didn't. I did get the poster with the pink, didn't get one with the deluxe. The cover is just so flat and plain side by side with the deluxe, the heavy gatefold, the embossing and reflective ink just makes it pop in comparison. Aesthetically, everything about the deluxe violet, the artwork, the materials, the vinyl colour way, is superior. I spun Gifts for the Earth from both, and while there wasn't a huge difference, the violet copy wins again. I don't have the best system (U-Turn Orbit Plus > Radial J33 Turntable preamp/DI > Apogee Duet2 > M-Audio BX5a monitors & KRK 10s sub), but the pink seems to have a bit of harshness and sibilance that wasn't on the violet, and there was definitely surface noise and a persistent tick in the outro that I couldn't see a cause for. I'll have to give both copies a proper wash later, but none of that was present on the deluxe copy. In loud sections both copies sounded very good, but the violet was better.

Origami just listed this, hand stamped bootleg edition (still appears to be the regular orange vinyl though) http://onlineshop.origamiorigami.com/king-gizzard-and-the-lizard-wizard-paper-mache-dream-balloon-|-ltd-edition-bootleg-orange-vinyl-edition-(pre-order)/dp/28945

I will try to get a few extras. If I do I will let you all know. Dont start messaging me prematurely. Hopefully I can just get one for myself.

My Grado Green, protractor and zerodust all showed up today. Can't wait to get off work and attempt to align it, or just give up before I try and take it to the shop on Saturday and have them do it.

you know how criminals go to jail for doing something really dumb and then they read like 4 or 5 books and suddenly become wise...and they quote made up shit and ramble nonsense to a group they are used to being dumber than.... yeah. thats the vibe im getting.

pics or it didn't happen

I'll trade a pepsi perfect and USA today for the box set. Except, I don't, yknow, have either of those

I'v purchased a one way ticket to pound town.

nope, I need 16.3 minutes.

ugh, you just reminded me that these havent gone up yet! mondo takin my money every couple days..

As an aside to my aside, I was already familiar with G.L.O.S.S., but just listened to Whirr. They're actually pretty good. It's a shame they're assholes, but I might still buy their records.

you can send it to me if youd like. i'll ship it out to you.

Jesu/Sun Kil Moon CD is up for preorder. Vinyl release date TBA. http://www.caldoverderecords.com/ A new song was also posted. http://www.caldoverderecords.com/exodus/

Think he said they would be online Friday.

Michael Richards said horrible things about black people yet I love Seinfeld and Kramer, and also watching his episode of comedians in cars getting coffee, he really does seem sorry. Maybe Jerry can get Whirr on CICGC? also, maybe Jerry get iPad?

This is heavy.

That apology is the worst. Laughably bad. To the question about separating art from the artist: it's nearly impossible to know that a shitty person created a form of expression and enjoy it. That music is a direct expression of their very being hatred and all. I gave up on them a long time ago and feel right in having done so - music is human expression and we know what these assholes are expressing there is no between-the-lines. I finally am divesting of Kozelek related shit myself for this very reason. Keep listening if you want but don't decieve yourself into thinking there is separation. This is their art. They created it. They own it. There are awful people involved.

why are you talking down to a person? isn't this whole incident AGAINST that? why are you calling him out? because you dont like him?

It's hard to tell through just text...but this is entirely sarcasm, yes?

Dog Knights just posted this, records are in:

It's funny to make fun of trans people? To tell trans people to get suicide right the first time? You're disgusting.

It's being put online next week probably. Why have people go get it for you...?

ask her if you can wear the mask from scream when you do her from behind.