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  1. Orchid Tapes Club

    A thread to keep track of Orchid Tapes releases/help out the homeys. Advanced greetings to: EGSynergy and drkatz.
  2. Looking to buy what's listed here - toss me a pm! The thread's end is a purchase archive . Thread last updated on 1.07.18 ††††† 12” †††††X Charli XCX - Vroom Vroom EP Matt Kerekes - Luna and the wild blue everything (any) Mort Garson - Plantasia (music for plants) Spooky black - leaving ††††† 7” ††††† · Brave Little Abacus - Okumay Lil Peep, Lil Tracy, Horsehead - GBC · Elvis Depressedly - Holo Pleasures (blood red) ††††† Lathe ††††† · Dads - Shit Twins Sorority Noise - No Halo · Teen Suicide - Hymns ††††† Tapes ††††† WTB ALL ~ORCHID TAPES~ TAPES Alex G - SALT · Car Seat Headrest - Twin fantasy ·Coma Cinema - Blue Suicide · Dads - Brush your teeth (first tape) BOUGHT · Happy Trendy - Die young · Happy Trendy - Old friends · Joie De Vivre - Breaking Up With (I didn't even know this existed. thanks parkinglot.) Richie Woods - Wow, Cool · Ricky Eat Acid - Haunt U Forever Ricky Eat Acid - you get sick you regret things · William Bonney - All Our Songs · William Bonney - Good Vibes · You'll Live - Things Would Change If You Heard This --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ††††† Purchase archive ††††† 12" Sioux Falls - Rot Forever (pink) · Death Grips - Exmilitary (Original on third worlds) Frank Ocean - Blonde (OG black friday release) · Mineral - The Power of Failing (A/B-white, C/D-cyan blue /1000)· Mineral - EndSerenading (A/B-coke bottle green, C/D beer vinyl /1000) Kendrick Lamar - DAMN (red) · Yeah Yeah Yeahs - Fever to Tell (any) · The Underachievers - Indigoism (gold vinyl) bought · Nothing - Tired of Tomorrow (applebee's record release) bought · Salvia Palth - Melanchole (coke bottle blue /100) bought · Algernon Cadwallader - Parrot Flies (black) bought · Brand New - Daisy (green HT variant) bought · Brand New - Deja Entendu (2015 RSD edition) bought (he said with his wallet in tears) · Brand New - Your Favorite Weapon (any) bought · Citizen - Everyone is Going to Heaven (deep purple / beer with black splatter alternate cover /150) bought · CocoRosie - La Maison de Mon Reve (black) bought · CocoRosie - Noa's Ark bought · CocoRosie - The Adventures of Ghosthorse and Stillborn bought · CocoRosie - Grey Oceans (black) bought · CocoRosie - Tales of a Grasswidow (brown or red) bought · Clap your hands say yeah - S/T (any press is fine) bought · Coma Cinema - Blue Suicide (black) bought! · Dad Punchers - S/T (any is fine, but prefer green) bought · Dads - American Radass (blue /100, first press) bought · Dads - American Radass (splatter /200) bought · Dads - American Radass (day by day recordings alternate artwork on black) bought · Deafheaven - Sunbather (splatter) bought · Death Grips - The Money Store bought · Death Grips - Government Plates (RSD) bought · Drive OST (mondo) bought · Earl Sweatshirt - Doris bought · Elvis Depressedly - New Alhambra (black/purple starburst) bought · Elvis Depressedly - New Alhambra (translucent blue/green) bought · Hole - Live Through This (bootleg) bought · The Hotelier - Home Like No Place, Is There (Spring tour press 2015) bought · The Hotelier - Home Like No Place Is There (translucent gold) bought · Into it. Over it. - 52 weeks box set bought /99 clear · Joie De Vivre - We're All Better Than This (electric blue) bought · Joie De Vivre - The North End (any) bought · Kanye West - Yeezus (black boot, or whichever is the variant with bound 2) bought · La Dispute - Wildlife (any) bought · La Dispute - Somewhere at the Bottom... (any) bought · Modern Baseball - Sports (random mixed first press) bought · Modern Baseball - Sports (trans yellow EU) · Modern Baseball - Sports (cream) bought · Modern Baseball - Sports (blue) bought · Modern Baseball - Sports (Beer EU) · Modern Baseball - Sports (Baby blue with navy marble) bought · Modern Baseball - Sports (black) · Modern Baseball - Sports (opaque orange) · Modern Baseball - Sports (clear) bought · Modern Baseball - Sports (red) bought · Modern Baseball - Sports (yellow) bought · Modern Baseball - You're Gonna Miss it All (180g black) bought · Modern Baseball - You're Gonna Miss it All (180g red) · Modern Baseball - You're Gonna Miss it All (grey) · Modern Baseball - You're Gonna Miss it All (navy) · Modern Baseball - Strength in Weakness split (clear/black split) bought · Modern Baseball - Strength in Weakness split (sea blue) bought · Modern Baseball - Strength in Weakness split (purple) bought · Moose Blood - I'll Keep You in Mind From Time to Time (transparent light blue with black color in color) bought · Nothing - Guilty of everything (white with black stripe or black/white split) bought · Nothing - Downward Years to Come (clear) bought the b/w leather sleeve edition! · Prawn - Ships (any) bought · Run the Jewels - Run the Jewels (splatter) bought · Run the Jewels - Run the Jewels 2 (teal) bought · Snowing - I Could Do Whatever I Wanted If I Wanted (screen printed beer cans cover) bought · Snowing - Fuck Off All Nerds comp (pink) bought · Suis La Lune - Riala (splatter) bought · The Get Up Kids - Something to Write Home About (any) bought · The Get Up Kids - Four Minute Mile (any) bought · The Bilinda Butchers - Heaven (white, /250 on Orchid Tapes) bought on black (repress) · Tigers Jaw - Belongs to the dead bought · Tiny Moving Parts - This couch is long and full of friendship (swamp green or white/green splatter) bought on white · Touche Amore - To the beat of a dead horse bought · Teen Suicide - I will be my own hell... (coke bottle)pending still looking bought · Whirr - Distressor (Deep Purple and Bone A side B side with Black) bought · Whirr - Pipe Dreams (gold) bought · William Bonney - Good Vibes (strongly prefer second press on black) bought · You blew it! - Grow up, dude (clear with green splatter /75) bought · You'll Live - Above the Weather (seafoam interactive) bought 10" · Empire! Empire! (i was a lonely estate) - When the sea became a giant (tri-color split) - still looking bought · Camera Shy - Jack-O-Lantern (any color) bought · Dads - Pretty Good (Beach Community 10" Press) bought 7" · Coma Cinema / Teen Porn - split bought · 1994! / Snowing / Boys and Sex / Algernon Cadwallader - Summer Singles bought · Algernon Cadwallader - Fun (green foam) bought · Dad Punchers - These Times Weren't Made For You (aqua blue or coke bottle) bought · Modern Baseball - THAW split (green) bought · Modern Baseball - THAW split (clear) bought · Old Gray - Everything I let go... (any) bought · 10 Years of Bluetile 4-way split (Teen Suicide, Those Lavender Whales, the Choir Quit, Can’t Kids) bought still looking bought · William Bonney / Droughts - split bought Tapes · Coma Cinema - Bluest of them all anthology ·high priority Current Joys - Me Oh My Mirror Current Joys - Wild Heart · Alex G - Trick bought · Alex G - Rules bought · Algernon Cadwallader - Live In Vermont CT, January 2010 bought · Coma Cinema - Stoned Prayers bought · Elvis Depressedly - Hotter sadness bought · Flowers Taped to Pens - Dadfad demo bought, one popped up in stock on storenvy · Fog Lake - Virgo Indigo bought · Fog Lake - Holy Cross bought · Julia Brown - To be close to you bought · Merchant Ships - For Cameron (green) bought · Merchant Ships - Bummer Tapes Comp bought · Orchid Tapes - What would your closest friend do? bought · Orchid Tapes - Angeltown bought · Orchid Tapes - Angeltown II bought · Ricky Eat Acid - Three love songs (b-sides and outtakes) bought · Sorority Noise - Young Luck bought still looking bought (red) · Starry Cat - S/T bought, waiting to hear from seller still looking bought · Teen Suicide - Waste Yrself bought · Teen Suicide - Bonus EP bought · Teen Suicide - Rarities (second press on blue, I have the first on teal) bought · Wonder Beard tapes friends compilation II bought · Wonder Beard tapes friends compilation III bought Lathes · The Hotelier - Goodness Pt. 1 bought
  3. OCT064: FOG LAKE - DRAGONCHASER 1. Novocaine 2. Tolerance 3. Rattlesnake 4. Kerosene 5. Breaking Over Branches 6. Strung Back Around 7. Medicine Road 8. Side Effects 9. Roswell 10. Oak Island 11. Push 12. Spectogram Limited to 150 black cassette tapes. Cassette available for order, vinyl is TBA (unconfirmed)
  4. Hey I missed the presale for the new Coma Cinema Album "Loss Memory" Im looking for the blue/white variant, willing to buy or trade i have a lot of cool/rare tapes and records of that similar style, check out my collection thanks, https://www.discogs.com/user/claybuysrecords/collection
  5. looking for these records + tapes

    CURRENTLY LOOKING FOR THE FOLLOWING TAPES & RECORDS, IF YOU HAVE ANY OF THESE AND WOULD LIKE TO SELL THEM— SEND ME A DM, THANK YOU! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ANYTHING FROM THE FOLLOWING BANDS :-) -iwrotehaikusaboutcannibalisminyouryearbook - pill friends - ricky eat acid - starry cat - teen suicide (any original pressings from) - elvis depressedly (any original pressings) - julia brown (any original pressings) - salvia palth - william bonney - kill the intellectuals ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ SPECIFIC THINGS IM LOOKING FOR :-) flowers taped to pens: - "Friends 4ever" tape - "s/t" black 7" - "all of me all of you" 4-way split - light blue 7", black test press 7” - "nevasca" 4-way split - smokey grey cassette - "nice to meet you I hate you" - black 12", black test press 12", bone white w/pink inlay 12", seafoam green w/ white marble 12", - any shirts, hoodies, stickers, posters, photo prints, rarities! meryl streaker: - "3 trials" lathe 8" frankie cosmos: - "zentropy" white B-side screen-printed white 12" born without bones: - "baby" cassette (any variant) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
  6. Hey hey hey, Fog Lake and Euphoria Again dropped a split and they hit me up to put it out. It's really good. Pay-what-you-can here (all proceeds go towards artists): outofbreathrecords.bandcamp.com PO tape here (limited to 100): http://outofbreathrecords.storenvy.com/
  7. Mathew Lee Cothran is the songwriter and producer formerly credited as Coma Cinema, and currently works with his current band Elvis Depressedly along with Delaney Mills. Mathew was born in Spartanburg, SC but has in the past few years settled in Asheville, NC. Recorded during a period of sobering grief over the loss of his beloved Grandfather, 'Judas Hung Himself In America' is a collection of songs about looking inward to confront the paranoia and anxiety of living, and how internal struggles project onto the societies we live in. During the recording, Mathew quit drinking after many years of alcoholism, spent 100 hours playing Final Fantasy 15, bought another gun, and enjoyed washing the dishes. He is currently selling a 2003 Oldsmobile Intrigue that needs minor repairs ($1000). 1. america forever 2. let me know (wild life) 3. not mend 4. liquor store 5. judas in america 6. cherry high 7. farrah abraham 8. who did pull the pin of the people? Cassette available for preorder. Vinyl to be announced. http://www.joyvoid.limitedrun.com/products/587264-joy-void-010-mathew-lee-cothran-judas-hung-himself-in-america
  8. I am looking to trade (Orchid Tapes) DSU - First Press - Red (100) - Tour Copy for DSU - First Press - Deep Purple (125) also looking to work out a deal with Alex G / R.L. Kelly Split - Mint/Purple (300) for Trick - Blue (300) also looking for any alex g stuff i don't own already, check my list. I am down to work out other deals or buy the above too, just figured I would put out what I am looking for. Tradelist is in sig, but the little flags for trade/sale are way out of date. If anything catches your eye let me know, but I also have money ready to go to buy. Also ooking for: Car Seat Headrest - Teens of Denial - Recalled Version Pinegrove - Cardinal - Hand Painted Version Joyce Manor - Self Titled - Mail Order and Record Release PM if you have any of them.
  9. Shipping is $4 for an LP, $3 for a 7" or tape. Add on a dollar for each additional item shipped. Shipping from Tennessee and I'd prefer continental US only. I'm willing to take some offers on this stuff, especially if you buy in bulk. LP Dads - American Radass (signed, root beer vinyl) - $30 Dads- Brush Your Teeth, Again (signed, grey vinyl) - $25 The Saddest Landscape - After the Lights (coke bottle vinyl) - $15 Justin Timberlake - The 20/20 Experience Pt. 2 (includes bonus 7") - $20 Failure's Union - In What Way (split black/grey vinyl) - $3 7" Culture Abuse - Spray Paint the Dog (white vinyl) - $5 Rural Alberta Advantage - Terrified (flexi disc) - $5 Tapes Jordaan Mason - He Could've Been a Poet or He Could've Been a Fool - $15 Ty Segall - Manipulator (signed) - $10 Gryscl - Finding Comfort in Obsolescence - $3 Pearl Jam - Ten - $3 Circle Jerks - Group Sex (Burger Records repress) - $5 Katie Dey - asdfasdf (green first run, 109/125) - $20
  10. I am looking to buy some stuff. Help me out! Alex G - Rules Cassette Alex G - Trick Cassette Elvis Depressedly - Holo Pleasures cassette + 7inch Elvis Depressedly - Mickey's Dead cassette Angeltown II cassette What Would Your Closest Friend Do? cassette Big Thief - Masterpiece (red vinyl)
  11. From June 7-10, Records will be only $1 (plus shipping) with code vcfriends!!!!!! https://danielfield.bandcamp.com/album/in-the-violet-hours Hey everyone! I made a record! I am really proud to share the preorder on vinyl and tape of my upcoming album, In The Violet Hours, which will be released digitally and on cassette on December 1, and on vinyl in April. Both cassette and vinyl are limited to 100 copies each, and I'm making the prices really really low to entice folks to pick up copies. Records are $5 plus shipping (about $7 to anywhere in the world, which is about as cheap as it gets from Canada). Tapes are $1 shipped). Listen to the whole album for free! PM me if you want a download code - I have lots! http://danielfield.bandcamp.com In The Violet Hours contains 11 original songs about love, grammar, and oral hygiene, written between 2002 and 2015. The album was recorded predominantly in the nook adjacent to my kitchen, in short intervals while my toddler slept. I played every instrument except for violin, and sang all songs, with some help from my wife and friends. I was heavily influenced by many of my musical heroes, including Paul Westerberg, Hayden, Elvis Costello, Mark Kozelek, and Ryan Adams. The album came to fruition to exist on vinyl through a surprise 30th birthday gift last year, where my friends basically crowdfunded the money to put my music on wax (!). While entirely home-recorded, the album was professionally mastered at the Lacquer Channel in Toronto. Update March 18: still waiting on vinyl. Hopefully early April. But as of now, my album is streaming on Spotify, Apple Music, Google Play, Tidal, etc. Give it a listen! April 10 Update: Records have finally landed after close to 8 months. Shipping now. $5 + shipping, and come with a free cassette copy.
  12. Yo I'm looking for: Alex G - DSU, Trick, Race tapes Elvis Depressedly - all tapes Flyying Colours - S/T EP Heroin Party (REA) - summer made me blue Lust for Youth - New Boys (white w/ wrap around) LVL UP - Space Brothers (green) Meishi Smile - Lust (vinyl and 1st press cassette) No Joy - More Faithful (white vinyl) RL Kelly/Spencer Radcliffe - Brown Horse (tape) Ricky Eat Acid - You Get Sick, Seeing Little Ghosts tapes Ringo Deathstarr - Colour Trip (any) Ringo Deathstarr - Mauve (any) Tamaryn - Cranekiss (silver vinyl) Teen Suicide - Goblin Problems (white or black) Teen Suicide - bonus ep Weekend - Sports (black and white splatter) Weekend - Red (gold splatter) Weekend - 10" (Also interested in any vaporwave you got! but these are priority): 2814 - 新しい日の誕生 (Birth of a New Day) (any tape press and vinyl) anything T e l e p a t h Business Casual 100 Remember - ルートバックホーム (route back home) Vaperror - Polychromatic Compiler VHSテープリワインダー - Red Light District
  13. Looking for some help trying to find these tapes! I'd pay a generous price or I'd be willing to trade something in my collection (Vinyl or tapes). I have pretty much my entire collection on here minus a couple things i haven't listed yet. Message me if your looking for something specific. I also have a ton of rare posters and shirts if your interested also. Alex G - DSU (green, orchid tapes) Alex G - SALT (random color, birdtapes) Various Artists - Those Who Were Once Friends are Now Fam (Odd Castles) Various Artists - Growing Up is Dumb Vol. 2 (Lauren Records) Various Artists - What Would Your Closest Friend Do? (Orchid Tapes) Various Artists - Angeltown Vol. II (Orchid Tapes) Various Artists - Haze Tapes Winter Mixtape ( Haze Tapes) Death Grips - The Money Store (white, Third Worlds) Title Fight - Hyperview (Anti records) Coma Cinema - Posthumous Release (Orchid Tapes) 2814 - Birth of a New Day (Black, Dream Catalogue) 2814 - 2814 (Purple, Dream Catalogue) Shima33 - Museum (White, Dream Catalogue) Oscob/Digital Sex - Overgrowth (Green, Dream Catalogue) Spencer Radcliffe/R.L Kelly - Brown Horse (Blue, Orchid Tapes) Deerhunter - Deerhunter: On Platts Eyott Island (4AD) Elliott Smith/The Softies - Spring Tour '96 (Kill Rock Stars) Elliott Smith - Roman Candle (Cavity Search)
  14. Heya. Just trying to quickly get some cash for upcoming preorders. Nothing huge, willing to take lower offers on anything, just message me. All prices PPD. Shipping combines if you buy more than one thing. Or, you know, I'll trade some for a copy of Athletics - Who You Are Is Not Enough. That'd be cool. • (offer) Alex G/R.L. Kelly - Split (/300 Purple/Mint Green) • (offer) Alex G - RULES (Clear Green cassette) • $20 Balance and Composure - Separation (/500 Navy) • $14 Bon Iver - For Emma, Forever Ago (Black) • $18 Cut Teeth - Night Years (/100 Glow in the Dark) • $20 Do Make Say Think - S/T • $24 Flowers Taped To Pens - S/T (TEST PRESS 7" #13/20) • $22 Foxes In Fiction - Ontario Gothic (/500 sea blue/cyan blue FIRST PRESS OOP) • $15 Frameworks - Loom (2nd press purple) • $48 Have A Nice Life - Deathconsciousness (/400 Green) • Knuckle Puck - Copacetic (/400 Electric Blue/Doublemint) • $23 La Dispute - Rooms Of The House (/1000 Blue) • $22 La Dispute - Wildlife (translucent purple, last owner stuck the wildlife sticker on the sleeve) • $20 Lite - Installation (/100 Black) • $19 Pentimento - Pentimento (/300 Blue first press; seam split) • $13 Pope - Fiction (/500 Purple / Clear) (Slight warp, plays fine) • (offer) Real Friends - Put Yourself Back Together (/? Brown w/Orange Haze) • $20 Pianos Become The Teeth - Old Pride (/1000 Translucent Orange w/ Black Smoke) • $11 Rocky Votolato - Light And Sound EP (RSD Purple 10") • $15 Self Defense Family - Duets (/98 Clear w/ Green & Pink "Flower" Splatter) • $20 Spraynard - Mable (/200 Orange w/Teal & Cream Splatter) (small ding in upper right corner of jacket) • $28 Sorority Noise - Forgettable (/200 Marbled Pink) • $27 Swans - To Be Kind • $25 Title Fight - Hyperview (/500 White) • $offer The Story So Far (Tour Press) • $16 You Blew It! - Grow Up, Dude (6th press marble purple) • (offer) toe - the book about my idle plot on a vague anxiety (/300 Blue) • $20 TWIABP - Whenever, If Ever (/1000 Transparent Red)
  15. LISTEN TO 'MIA' HERE: http://www.stereogum.com/1819906/artist-to-watch-spencer-radcliffe-mia-stereogum-premiere/franchises/band-to-watch/ Super excited that we've signed Spencer Radcliffe. Spencer last released an amazing split with R.L. Kelly on Orchid Tapes, and we're excited to release his full length "Looking In" October 2nd. "Mia," the first single is simply one of the best songs you will hear this year. Check out 'Mia,' a quick blurb from the Stereogum write-up below and pre-orders below. "...mostly, Radcliffe operates in a drift, more comfortable with floating around in his own head. He feels in this world but not of it, lost and looking for an answer without really knowing the question. Tape delay and overdubs stand in for hesitation and second-guessing; sometimes, a single chord can travel the entire spectrum of human emotion. On one of the tracks from his new album, he muses: “I guess somehow I lost track of the direction back to the world from my mind.” Radcliffe often sounds like he’s taking the path least traveled, but it doesn’t feel like a misstep, just a different way of doing things." US Pre-order: http://bit.ly/1N7MAsE UK/EU Pre-order: http://bit.ly/1DqBrmx
  16. I think there are some diehard fans here that will appreciate these. Send me your offers, I think you'll be pleasantly surprised. I aim to ship these on Saturday. So please, go ahead shoot me your best offer. The bigger the bundle the more you'll save.
  17. I know its hard to get this OOP stuff, but if anyone has Alex G or any Mat Cothran tapes that they'd be willing to sell or trade please let me know. Also, really hoping to find a doublemint green copy of DSU.
  18. hey y'all, I'm looking for some Alex G cassettes. I need DSU, Trick, Race and Salt. I'd be happy to buy them, but if that's not your thing - I've got a few really rare / unique Alex G promo posters, as well as some posters from Elvis Depressedly, Teen Suicide, that kind of thing. I have a huge poster collection so let me know if you're looking for anything in particular - I've got everything from Deerhunter to DOOM and Death Grips. my discogs collection (although not complete) is here: http://www.discogs.com/user/mellowtooth/collection
  19. Hey all, I'm giving up on waiting for a Three Love Songs repress. Thought maybe someone here might trade me a copy of it for some of this Alex G stuff. • Alex G/RL Kelly Split 7" (unplayed, mint) • Beach Music CS (blue) • Live at the Headroom 12" (companion 12" to the deluxe vinyl edition of Beach Music) To clarify, not looking to sell any of this outright or trade for anything else (unless you've got Amusement Parks on Fire's S/T LP).
  20. Selling off my complete collection. All records 1st Press /100 Mixed Clear White Black Violet Make offers please. Each order I'll throw in a couple pins and stickers. Thanks fam!
  21. Hello fellow music heads, I'm making this post to try to reach out to anyone on here that is willing to sell/trade any Alex G tapes. Specifically I'm looking for DSU Trick Race Salt Angeltown II Those Who Were Once Friends Are Now Fam What Would Your Closest Friend Do I am open to trades if thats something you would be looking to do. I'm fairly new to the forum so my collection isn't in my profile just yet, but message me with anything you are looking for and I can let you know if i have it. Tapes or vinyl. Thanks!
  22. Well I fucked up, thinking they wouldn't be sold out when i saw them at san jose rock shop. Looking for a red tour press of DSU by Alex G. Any help would be appreciated! thanks ! edit* LOOKING FOR alex g's TRICK ALSO!!
  23. The Bilinda Butchers are a band from San Francisco with dreamy indie rock shoegaze tones FFO: Silversun Pickups, Asobi Seksu http://orchidtapes.bigcartel.com/product/the-bilinda-butchers-heaven https://soundcloud.com/orchidtapes/the-bilinda-butchers-edo-method
  24. Looking to buy any variant of orchid tapes' most recent compilation LP entitled "Boring Ecstasy: The Bedroom Pop of Orchid Tapes". These have only recently started shipping, so I understand some people are still waiting on their copies.
  25. I'm looking for Alex G's DSU on cassette and his Trick tape please help me fulfill my dreams, willing to pay the cost
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