Out of Breath Records Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 I don't care about their costs of living, I care about price gouging. I wanted this record too... Go complain about the corporate level music industry, not DIY labels. Sorry you're upset you didn't get it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orchidtapes Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 http://softspeakrecords.storenvy.com/ Same run sizes, still $12 and all proceeds to charity. It's cool that the guy wants more money I'm just saying these excuses don't really hold any water. Whatevs. I don't know, unless you know either of the owners personally, I can't say you can make any judgement on their cost of living/expenses/whatever That's amazing that they do that and make it work, but when it comes down to it, we're a business and not a charity. For the goals that we have in mind (paying our artists and having enough money to do more / bigger releases and still making enough to live on modestly) that's obviously not a realistic or sustainable model. And like I said, both Brian and I are trying to make livings off our other creative efforts (which collectively occupies 100% of our time) so it's not like we're raking in big money on the side with Wall St. jobs or anything. Anyways. I'm not here to further justify why we charge how much we do, I've tried to make it pretty clear, and I just wanted to come here to say thank you so anyone who chooses to support us and has helped us to get to where we are as a label. The exchange of money for the physical versions of music is an increasingly rare thing and we're blown away each and every time someone decides to pay for something we've put out. We're very humbled by the small successes we've come across and we hope we're graced by more good things in the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkrtz Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 I too am upset on missing out, so I get it. But I get the other end too. Can't blame the label for doing nothing wrong and everything right I guess. I think maybe the frustration is with our own inability to indulge in that which we want whenever it's available because it's simply not possible at the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shelby Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 Go complain about the corporate level music industry, not DIY labels. Sorry you're upset you didn't get it. Haha I've been supporting DIY since you were 11 don't tell me what to think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Out of Breath Records Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 Haha I've been supporting DIY since you were 11 don't tell me what to think. You're so impressive man. batnoises 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dexterloos Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 http://softspeakrecords.storenvy.com/ Same run sizes, still $12 and all proceeds to charity. It's cool that the guy wants more money I'm just saying these excuses don't really hold any water. Whatevs. I actually have now released a record with Soft Speak and with Orchid Tapes and I think it really boils down to what your values are as a label owner. Michael of Soft Speak is a saint, but it can be really tough to sustain that record and his values and Warren's differ only in where their profits are directed, but both want only what is best for the bands that they work with, which I think is what's most important. I personally might not spend $20 on a record, but that is just because I don't really value physical copies of music in that way. Some people will readily spend that kind of money on a record because that's what matters to them. This is all morally subjective and you shouldn't bash label owners for doing what is and is not "DIY" or how much they should charge or theoretically pit them against each other because they are all working towards a common goal. If you don't think the record is worth $20, don't spend $20 on it, but don't state your beliefs as being objective or as being from some higher moral ground. plasma36 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrodan Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 i just wanna say I am really glad shelbs didnt get one of these. Entitled fuck. CastellaKiowa, addi and Out of Breath Records 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plasma36 Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 I actually have now released a record with Soft Speak and with Orchid Tapes and I think it really boils down to what your values are as a label owner. Michael of Soft Speak is a saint, but it can be really tough to sustain that record and his values and Warren's differ only in where their profits are directed, but both want only what is best for the bands that they work with, which I think is what's most important. I personally might not spend $20 on a record, but that is just because I don't really value physical copies of music in that way. Some people will readily spend that kind of money on a record because that's what matters to them. This is all morally subjective and you shouldn't bash label owners for doing what is and is not "DIY" or how much they should charge or theoretically pit them against each other because they are all working towards a common goal. If you don't think the record is worth $20, don't spend $20 on it, but don't state your beliefs as being objective or as being from some higher moral ground. Dex bringin the knowledge, as expected Also, stop bashing each other in general. It's super tiring to come here and every day see people yelling at one another over whatever they feel is important kamalatapes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinb Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 Haha I've been supporting DIY since you were 11 don't tell me what to think. This is hilarious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Out of Breath Records Posted May 3, 2014 Share Posted May 3, 2014 Shlebs has a personal vendetta against me its nbd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kamalatapes Posted May 3, 2014 Share Posted May 3, 2014 Aside from all this bickering... Ladies and gentlemen... Orchid Tapes has officially joined VC That's amazing that they do that and make it work, but when it comes down to it, we're a business and not a charity. For the goals that we have in mind (paying our artists and having enough money to do more / bigger releases and still making enough to live on modestly) that's obviously not a realistic or sustainable model. And like I said, both Brian and I are trying to make livings off our other creative efforts (which collectively occupies 100% of our time) so it's not like we're raking in big money on the side with Wall St. jobs or anything. Anyways. I'm not here to further justify why we charge how much we do, I've tried to make it pretty clear, and I just wanted to come here to say thank you so anyone who chooses to support us and has helped us to get to where we are as a label. The exchange of money for the physical versions of music is an increasingly rare thing and we're blown away each and every time someone decides to pay for something we've put out. We're very humbled by the small successes we've come across and we hope we're graced by more good things in the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Out of Breath Records Posted May 8, 2014 Share Posted May 8, 2014 Here's an interview I did with Warren: http://daddytissues.tumblr.com/post/85091644082/inteview-with-warren-hildebrand-about-running-the Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Out of Breath Records Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 250 more DSU records going up on Monday. If you missed it here's your chance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brillwill Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 on orchidtapes? thanks for the headsup! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kamalatapes Posted May 19, 2014 Share Posted May 19, 2014 It's up now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwhitmuzik Posted May 19, 2014 Author Share Posted May 19, 2014 New pressing up. Second pressing limited to 250 doublemint green and deep purple coloured vinyl, pressed together in a single record. That's cooler than the first pressing. Jealous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwhitmuzik Posted May 19, 2014 Author Share Posted May 19, 2014 Also, new song. http://www.stereogum.com/1682118/alex-g-harvey-stereogum-premiere/mp3s/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orchidtapes Posted May 19, 2014 Share Posted May 19, 2014 Thanks for the love and support, everyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rynflnnry Posted May 19, 2014 Share Posted May 19, 2014 in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkrtz Posted May 19, 2014 Share Posted May 19, 2014 Hope this lasts a while, but I imagine it will sell out within a day or two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drownmeinestrogen Posted May 19, 2014 Share Posted May 19, 2014 Kinda wanna see if I can trade my purple for that... sounds really rad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrodan Posted May 19, 2014 Share Posted May 19, 2014 I am sure you will have no trouble trading your first press for a second press guys. you can always buy the second press and sell the first press at cost to someone who missed out as well. no reason to bother label with changing your order. this is not amazon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwhitmuzik Posted May 19, 2014 Author Share Posted May 19, 2014 I am sure you will have no trouble trading your first press for a second press guys. you can always buy the second press and sell the first press at cost to someone who missed out as well. no reason to bother label with changing your order. this is not amazon. "bother label?" this is the label's job to do customer service, which includes trading variants (if the orders haven't been packaged yet, obviously). I see zero reason this is an issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrodan Posted May 19, 2014 Share Posted May 19, 2014 and therein lies the problem. this expectation of "customer service" from a couple of guys putting out records themselves as a side thing and not a big business who can devote their time and energy to fixing people's small problems. it bums me out so much seeing how people hold small labels like this to the same standards as amazon or best buy. like, seriously, you can't see the difference? kurtz 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drownmeinestrogen Posted May 19, 2014 Share Posted May 19, 2014 Not gonna spend another $25 to get this record just to sell my other. Would rather just trade, if that's really an issue then, like, I'm cool with my more-limited-but-less-cool pressing. haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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