daniele Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 To be clear: who wrote that words is an idiot and now the band is paying the consequences of that stupidity, BUT i really hope that all the people that now want Whirr disappearing and want burn(???) all their records make something PRODUCTIVE in the REAL LIFE to fight racism and homophopic attitude and that they make it with the same energy and passion they are putting in this stupid and classical internet buzz.......You know......I doubt about that...... shenanigans 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek™ Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 who wrote that words Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhulud Posted October 20, 2015 Author Share Posted October 20, 2015 (Formerly) WHIRR fans right about now? (Worst. MS Paint Job. Ever) poweredbytrust, turbobrando, NapalmBrain and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daniele Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 who wrote that words Are you phobic to people that don't write well in english?? If you want 2 years ago i recorded a very bad cd and i can send it to you for free then you can burn it!!! jrodan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daniele Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 (Formerly) WHIRR fans right about now? (Worst. MS Paint Job. Ever) Hhahahahahahahah! Best post of the day!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy. Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 Folks should raise money to destroy their Whirr merch in fun/cool ways and then donate the money to a charity. Do it. I have a Whirr tape and a Camera Shy one. What should I do? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parkinglot Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 Record burning party, a la Arrested Development, except with Whirr records instead of Michael Jackson? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tetsuodaironman Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 Graveface was doing free tattoos at their booth at Mondocon. They had the Whirl spiral logo and a buddy and myself were about to get one, but instead opted to go for the Halloween (knife turning into a pumpkin) tat. True story. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerseydave77 Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 That apology is the worst. Laughably bad. To the question about separating art from the artist: it's nearly impossible to know that a shitty person created a form of expression and enjoy it. That music is a direct expression of their very being hatred and all. I gave up on them a long time ago and feel right in having done so - music is human expression and we know what these assholes are expressing there is no between-the-lines. I finally am divesting of Kozelek related shit myself for this very reason. Keep listening if you want but don't decieve yourself into thinking there is separation. This is their art. They created it. They own it. There are awful people involved. mssskat184 and kurtz 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurtz Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 Just popping in to say that the G.L.O.S.S. demo is the best hardcore record released this year! I've never heard Whirr before, but I hope this gets more people to check out G.L.O.S.S. giantfortune 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mellowtooth Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 That apology is the worst. Laughably bad. To the question about separating art from the artist: it's nearly impossible to know that a shitty person created a form of expression and enjoy it. That music is a direct expression of their very being hatred and all. I gave up on them a long time ago and feel right in having done so - music is human expression and we know what these assholes are expressing there is no between-the-lines. I finally am divesting of Kozelek related shit myself for this very reason. Keep listening if you want but don't decieve yourself into thinking there is separation. This is their art. They created it. They own it. There are awful people involved. I'm sorry, that is completely fucking absurd. Maybe it's nearly impossible to you to listen to art created by dicks and enjoy it, but you're in the minority. I listen to plenty of Jazz musicians who were unfaithful and abusive to their wives. Hip-hop created by violent thugs. Classical composed by upper class drama queens of questionable morale character. experimental rock created by pompous, pretentious pricks. It does not affect my enjoyment of the art whatsoever. It is simply laughable to say their art directly comes from their hatred of transgendered people - as if there is nothing else to them besides what you don't like. Like I said, I think Whirr sucks, but if you can't appreciate art created by morally questionable people, you might be looking for a buddy, not an artist. to me, artists have no obligation to be nice folks who I'd like to get beers with. That's not what I look for in an artist - I look for good music that makes me feel something. Is sonic youth artistically discredited because Moore was cheating on Gordon? Is "American Pie" a shit song because Don McLean is a notorious asshole? More importantly, who the fuck cares what artists do in their personal lives? Are we not above tabloid-style gossip and witch hunts? Priorities, guys. Jesus. esbe, castaway, thedannychang and 10 others 13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
just a normal guy kevin Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 agua, AlexH. and mssskat184 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwhitmuzik Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 I'm sorry, that is completely fucking absurd. Maybe it's nearly impossible to you to listen to art created by dicks and enjoy it, but you're in the minority. I listen to plenty of Jazz musicians who were unfaithful and abusive to their wives. Hip-hop created by violent thugs. Classical composed by upper class drama queens of questionable morale character. experimental rock created by pompous, pretentious pricks. It does not affect my enjoyment of the art whatsoever. It is simply laughable to say their art directly comes from their hatred of transgendered people - as if there is nothing else to them besides what you don't like. Like I said, I think Whirr sucks, but if you can't appreciate art created by morally questionable people, you might be looking for a buddy, not an artist. to me, artists have no obligation to be nice folks who I'd like to get beers with. That's not what I look for in an artist - I look for good music that makes me feel something. Is sonic youth artistically discredited because Moore was cheating on Gordon? Is "American Pie" a shit song because Don McLean is a notorious asshole? More importantly, who the fuck cares what artists do in their personal lives? Are we not above tabloid-style gossip and witch hunts? Priorities, guys. Jesus. come on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LIGMA_BALLZ Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 I have a Whirr tape and a Camera Shy one. What should I do? put that shit on and listen to it....its not like these records are riddled with lyrics and music of hate. Yea these dudes are shitty now, they did and said some stuff that was really fucking dumb, but now everyone wants to unload all of their lps like its a fuckin' Skrewdriver lp or something... all this hoopla about the band today actually made me put "sway" on, and you know what I still dig it...it's a great fuckin' record....sucks that these dudes said some really awful stuff but remember before all this happened 24 hours ago you still liked that band and that record poweredbytrust 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dreamover Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 do whatever you conscience is telling you to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy. Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 remember before all this happened 24 hours ago you still liked that band and that record Obligatory post about how I never liked the band nor the album. (I got the tape in a big package of tapes I bought and it's been sitting on my shelf since. However, Camera Shy I do like and bought on purpose. I didn't know they were the same person.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bladewillisisdead Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 I've never heard even a second of a Whirr song. Just want to say that when it comes to artists being shitty, it's one thing to enjoy a Beatles song despite their history of domestic abuse. It's another thing to directly financially support an artist in 2015 saying shitty things. Whether or not you listen to the Beatles does not affect the members at all. Whether or not you give money to an independent artist actually has an effect. I'm not saying do or don't, just that it's a case where speaking your opinion with your wallet is possible. There's also a huge difference between enjoying art and supporting it. If you like the tunes, listen. Just think about where your money is going if you decided to pay for something. I understand why RFC didn't do this, but I would have been fine with it of their decision had been to sell off the remaining stock of Whirr shit at some kind of discount, with some of the money going to charity. I feel for a small label having to eat that kind of investment. Like Broken World had to do with that David Belli split because the other artist turned out to be a sexual predator. AlexH., agua and mssskat184 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
just a normal guy kevin Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 do whatever you conscience is telling you to do. What if your conscience is telling you to rush into this Whirr thread and draw attention to yourself by starting a side meta-conversation about the hypocrisy of boycotting Whirr in an aggressive, straw-man-filled rant? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkrtz Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 I'm sorry, that is completely fucking absurd. Maybe it's nearly impossible to you to listen to art created by dicks and enjoy it, but you're in the minority. I listen to plenty of (...) Hip-hop created by violent thugs. mellowtooth 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGhostOfRandySavage Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 What if your conscience is telling you to rush into this Whirr thread and draw attention to yourself by starting a side meta-conversation about the hypocrisy of boycotting Whirr in an aggressive, straw-man-filled rant?<3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bladewillisisdead Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 Kanye West is a legit PR genius. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dreamover Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 What if your conscience is telling you to rush into this Whirr thread and draw attention to yourself by starting a side meta-conversation about the hypocrisy of boycotting Whirr in an aggressive, straw-man-filled rant?as long as you're not hurting anyone, go for it. mellowtooth 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tetsuodaironman Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 Remember when R. Kelly peed on 14 year old girls? And I know your asses were still listening to TP2.COM and Trapped in the Closet (please put that magnificent hip-hopera on a 4xLP deliciously black colored wax box set). mellowtooth 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mellowtooth Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 Are you aware of what "straw man" actually means? How on earth is my post a "straw man" fallacy when it was a direct response to this quote: It's nearly impossible to know that a shitty person created a form of expression and enjoy it. That music is a direct expression of their very being hatred and all. Is what I said not a direct response to that? esbe and TFP 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dreamover Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 Remember when R. Kelly peed on 14 year old girls? And I know your asses were still listening to TP2.COM and Trapped in the Closet (please put that magnificent hip-hopera on a 4xLP deliciously black colored wax box set). no, that was you. fuck that guy. tvham, mssskat184, agua and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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