Dominic_ Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 If he isn't I'll give him a few dollars a piece for one of each <3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxmartinxx Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 Regarding this Dakota Bahney character, I'm confused. Everything I've read states that this person is female, but all the pictures I've seen and a video I watched leaves me scratching my head as to how they're not a dude. I hope this isn't considered transphobic or whatever, since on this board being transphobic is worse than being a pedophile, but seriously... I'm confused. TFP 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eshame Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 all the people selling their whirr and shit aren't really, they're just saying that on an internet message board for e-respect skidroje, Hobbes, PRINCE and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChardeeMacDennis Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 Is this the person? https://m.soundcloud.com/dakotabahney unclehotdog 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eshame Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 Regarding this Dakota Bahney character, I'm confused. Everything I've read states that this person is female, but all the pictures I've seen and a video I watched leaves me scratching my head as to how they're not a dude. I hope this isn't considered transphobic or whatever, since on this board being transphobic is worse than being a pedophile, but seriously... I'm confused. gender conformist scum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxmartinxx Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 Is this the person? https://m.soundcloud.com/dakotabahney I guess so... ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
futures Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 Regarding this Dakota Bahney character, I'm confused. Everything I've read states that this person is female, but all the pictures I've seen and a video I watched leaves me scratching my head as to how they're not a dude. I hope this isn't considered transphobic or whatever, since on this board being transphobic is worse than being a pedophile, but seriously... I'm confused. i dont know who this person is, but it comes down to this: if someone (regardless of how they look) identifies and states that they are a specific gender, then that is their gender. so if dakota appears masculine or feminine or androgynous, but dakota states "i am a female", then dakota is a female. emacs, Team Avatar and poweredbytrust 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGhostOfRandySavage Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 all the people selling their whirr and shit aren't really, they're just saying that on an internet message board for e-respect False. Homeboy parkinglot is mailing me a copy of Sway (pink/40) for the cost of shipping. Mars 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxmartinxx Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 i dont know who this person is, but it comes down to this: if someone (regardless of how they look) identifies and states that they are a specific gender, then that is their gender. so if dakota appears masculine or feminine or androgynous, but dakota states "i am a female", then dakota is a female. Hmmm... okay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
futures Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 Hmmm... okay. after a little digging, i was able to confirm that dakota is/was (since she was kinda chased out of the scene) a trans singer/musician. so yes, she may appear masculine, but she is female. it helps to understand this if you separate sex from gender, as they are not one and the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxmartinxx Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 after a little digging, i was able to confirm that dakota is/was (since she was kinda chased out of the scene) a trans singer/musician. so yes, she may appear masculine, but she is female. it helps to understand this if you separate sex from gender, as they are not one and the same. That's cool and all, but then the idea of gender becomes meaningless. Maybe that's the point? I dunno, whatever. TFP 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxmartinxx Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 As an aside to my aside, I was already familiar with G.L.O.S.S., but just listened to Whirr. They're actually pretty good. It's a shame they're assholes, but I might still buy their records. TFP 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dvv Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 all the people selling their whirr and shit aren't really, they're just saying that on an internet message board for e-respectI felt like selling my records yesterday out of instinct, but later I didn't want to anymore. Each album has sentimental value to me so I'm not surprised I backed out of offers. Call me a piece of shit hyprocrite or whatever, these albums mean to much to me regardless of the people (or person) who wrote them. This is not to say making art excuses you from being a scumbag, it's just this one instance where I care more about the art than the artist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhulud Posted October 21, 2015 Author Share Posted October 21, 2015 Does it make an asshole then if I ask to buy the Whirr records I'm missing from my collection? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abovetheearth Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 False. Homeboy parkinglot is mailing me a copy of Sway (pink/40) for the cost of shipping. also false. i just got a shit ton of PMs and listed my entire whirr/nothing loot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shamrocks Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 to reiterate, i will definitely buy someones green /20 copy of sway. its the only one i need. #neverquit #cantstopwontstop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NapalmBrain Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 I felt like selling my records yesterday out of instinct, but later I didn't want to anymore. Each album has sentimental value to me so I'm not surprised I backed out of offers. Call me a piece of shit hyprocrite or whatever, these albums mean to much to me regardless of the people (or person) who wrote them. This is not to say making art excuses you from being a scumbag, it's just this one instance where I care more about the art than the artist. honestly I'm glad you came to your senses, I'm not trying to stand up for douchery. But like me you connected with the music, the message in the lyrics is not prejudice I see no reason why the music wouldn't bring you the same joy it did a few days ago Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
futures Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 That's cool and all, but then the idea of gender becomes meaningless. Maybe that's the point? I dunno, whatever. its not meaningless at all, but it certainly shouldn't be as pressured or hold a place of importance like it does in society as we know it (ie: gender assigned bathrooms, clothes, "pink branding," and accessories such as childrens toys). there is a population of humankind that believe that on the inside - their true selves - they are a gender that differs from the one they were assigned at birth. gender resides in the brain, not under your clothes. emacs 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parkinglot Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 If he isn't I'll give him a few dollars a piece for one of each <3how generous! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkrtz Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 Regarding this Dakota Bahney character, I'm confused. Everything I've read states that this person is female, but all the pictures I've seen and a video I watched leaves me scratching my head as to how they're not a dude. I hope this isn't considered transphobic or whatever, since on this board being transphobic is worse than being a pedophile, but seriously... I'm confused. Dakota is (was?) the musician behind Unraveler (a predominately acoustic folkpunk act) and the label Cool Shoes. I only knew her passively before she deleted all her media accounts but from what I perceived she was friendly, very morally outspoken and very respected in her local community. It was an extremely shocking reveal whenever she was outed as an assailant. Also if anyone wants to sell a copy of around cheap, that's the only whirr record i dig a ton (kristina is great) and I only have it on tape. Would be willing to grab a vinyl copy on the low. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominic_ Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 how generous! I'd do better but I'm still hurting from that extra $2 on the Teen Suicide albums :/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkrtz Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 I'd do better but I'm still hurting from that extra $2 on the Teen Suicide albums :/ A++ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwhitmuzik Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 In Pittsburgh there is this artist formally known as Unraveler. It was this promoter/musician's project by the name of Dakota. She was very influential in the scene and well respected. This past summer numerous victims stood up and shared their stories of sexual abuse/assault that they suffered at the hands of Dakota. She made an announcement and then deleted all her social media accounts. It still shocks me to this day since I sort of knew Dakota. It made the Pgh scene more safe and there were a lot of really good conversations about safety and help for victims afterwards. This is still the craziest and scariest story involving the scene this year. She was so important there and to see all this happen...wow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwhitmuzik Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 i dont know who this person is, but it comes down to this: if someone (regardless of how they look) identifies and states that they are a specific gender, then that is their gender. so if dakota appears masculine or feminine or androgynous, but dakota states "i am a female", then dakota is a female. Yes yes yes yes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mellowtooth Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 its not meaningless at all, but it certainly shouldn't be as pressured or hold a place of importance like it does in society as we know it (ie: gender assigned bathrooms, clothes, "pink branding," and accessories such as childrens toys). there is a population of humankind that believe that on the inside - their true selves - they are a gender that differs from the one they were assigned at birth. gender resides in the brain, not under your clothes. I'm just wondering, do you also feel this way about race? brandy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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