robes Posted February 21, 2016 Share Posted February 21, 2016 I'm kinda glad he doesn't though, because that's a huge part of the Deftones sound. They play these dark, brutal riffs and somehow still manage that dreamy sound. It's an amazing juxtaposition that really works in their favor imo. For sure, but I feel like the brutal riffs can be toned down a bit and they would still not only sound heavy, but also still sound like the Deftones. I'm guessing that's where the clash in the band is, the band wants to tone it down a bit, but Steph just wants heavy riffs ALL the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
floyd_z Posted February 21, 2016 Share Posted February 21, 2016 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HybridxReality Posted February 21, 2016 Share Posted February 21, 2016 Hope this is legit, because those drums are killer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanellos Posted February 21, 2016 Author Share Posted February 21, 2016 It's not legit. Its a song by another band called Ashes of Nothing. Rule number 1: Shazam it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skacel Posted February 21, 2016 Share Posted February 21, 2016 Good. I'm hoping for some face melting riffage on this new album. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirac Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 Dunno if this has been posted, it's an interview on the Ultimate Guitar website with Stephen Carpenter about the Gore: https://www.ultimate-guitar.com/news/interviews/deftones_guitarist_and_co-founder_stephen_carpenter_talks_to_ug_i_didnt_want_to_play_on_the_new_record.html?no_takeover Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamubro Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 Man, that was a seriously weird interview. Sounded like he didn't even want to play guitar anymore and isn't 100% happy with how direction the band is going. Still stoked for Gore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nowakovic Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 The ltd numbered black edt still seams to be in stock on warners uk site http://deftones.warnerartists.net/uk/gore/gore-180g-black-vinyl-1.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hzielaskowski Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 UK is not numbered (at least as I understand). It's similar to US as it's 180 grams but not numbered. Same situation was with precious album. I might be wrong though. Edit. Well, yes I'm wrong. It says it's numbered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skacel Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 The link clearly states "Limited Edition numbered Heavyweight 180g Black Vinyl Includes an immediate digital download of the single “Prayers/Triangles” and a digital album download on release date, 08.04.16." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejc625 Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 August? Kanellos 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dantheriver Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 August? day/month/year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le Gogh Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 day/month/year Correct! This is the date format that real countries use. Don't get me started on your backwards dates Vince Ives, No This Is Patrick and daegor 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejc625 Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 day/month/yearI knew that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iron666monkey Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 I was wondering why the single sucked and had no heaviness. I hope he eventually starts a new project that has some balls. http://www.theprp.com/2016/02/23/news/deftones-stephen-carpenter-on-gore-i-didnt-want-to-play-on-the-record-to-begin-with/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejc625 Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 Fuck man. It's sounding more and more like this is going to be the last Deftones full length (unless they ever release Eros) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vinyl addict Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 Fuck man. It's sounding more and more like this is going to be the last Deftones full length (unless they ever release Eros) Guitarists can be replaced Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rooks Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 Yeah thats a pretty shit interview on his part. He knows where his money comes from. Chino is out there hyping this record on every radio station and magazine as a united front and then this guy straigjt undermines him publically. Pretty weak. Deftones arent metal, sorry man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejc625 Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 Guitarists can be replacedYeah but do you really think they would do that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vinyl addict Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 Yeah but do you really think they would do that? Why not, they moved on and did their best to replace Chi after his death. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eliminator Jr. Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 Deftones arent metal, sorry man. To me, they've never been. I can't really comment on the first two albums, since I haven't listened to them in about ten years, but from Pony onwards they pretty much transcended genre, which is what makes them so great in the first place. Sure, stuff like RatsRatsRats and the chorus of Hexagram is heavy as fuck, but some heavy riffage here and there and downtuned 7-string guitars are not metal if you play delay-doused minor chords on them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daegor Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 I was wondering why the single sucked and had no heaviness. I hope he eventually starts a new project that has some balls. http://www.theprp.com/2016/02/23/news/deftones-stephen-carpenter-on-gore-i-didnt-want-to-play-on-the-record-to-begin-with/ Yes, this was linked at the top of this same page.... and you're wrong. Fuck man. It's sounding more and more like this is going to be the last Deftones full length (unless they ever release Eros) I doubt it (see below). Guitarists can be replaced There's no indication that this is even being considered, or that it would even be needed. Yeah thats a pretty shit interview on his part. He knows where his money comes from. Chino is out there hyping this record on every radio station and magazine as a united front and then this guy straigjt undermines him publically. Pretty weak. Deftones arent metal, sorry man. He's blunt, but there is nothing wrong with what was said. Here's the thing, The PRP does not link to the actual interview (again, see the first post on this page). While I wouldn't say they take his words out of context they definitely focus on what they want. The interviewer made a very good point after the interview: Writer's Note: I was also able to listen to the new album. Although I have been sworn to secrecy on the specifics (blood oath) I can say that whether you are a fan of the softer melodic sound or the heavy aggressive sound, you will be pleased with both on this album. The sonic diversity is perhaps a result of the creative rifts within the band. Blending the soft and melodic with the heavy and aggressive has always been the trademark of the Deftones' sound and this album does not disappoint. Tension often breeds creativity and brings out the best in a group. That seems to be the case on "Gore." This makes a lot of sense in regards to what we've heard from Deftones after White Pony. If Stephen wasn't digging in his heels we'd be a much more melodic Deftones, if the band wasn't pushing Stephen out of his comfort zone we would have a much heavier, chuggyer Deftones. Personally I think each album is better than the last, the tension has definitely served them well. The fact that Stephen is open about the musical disagreements but also commenting that he'd never leave makes it sound like they do have a balance that's working. I have a feeling that when he's referring to things he won't do, I think he means he's not down to have to have the band re-record/rework Chi's work on Eros. EDIT: A great example of tension being a positive thing musically is Massive Attack's 'Mezzanine'. They were at each other's throats during the recording of that album, and went their separate ways for a LONG time afterwards. It doesn't sound like the tension is anywhere near as bad here. Eliminator Jr., mrewest and GhostTrail 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muppelope Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 What he said ^ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rooks Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 I feel like we all know that, and Chino has said the same thing about the "Deftones sound" and the mix of melodic and heavy. We've known it for years. The band knows it too. There's a difference between saying THAT and saying "I didn't even want to play guitar on this record". He just sounds whiny. Probably just a bad day for him or the interviewer took things out of context. Whatever the case, we can't pretend that "I would never leave the band I started, but the band leaving me, I can't control that" has some pretty heavy connotations. He could have easily said everything he said and followed it up with "but I think that tensions really helped flesh out the project, we took a little of both and came out with a great record" - but he didn't say that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek™ Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 Or if he did, it was intentionally left out of that article for dramatic effect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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