Guest Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 Cool Guy Alert! If having opinions is cool, then consider me Miles Davis . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bladewillisisdead Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 Yes, not liking ska is one of the necessary components of being cool Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dantheriver Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 If having opinions is cool, then consider me Miles Davis . OOOOHHHHH THAT WAS THE GROSSEST THING I'VE EVER HEARD IN MY LIFE! LET'S GO! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyregret Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 If you are full of shit, please raise your hand now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottheisel Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 Gotta agree. Bands need to suck it up and accept that Flood/Silly Ross/Struedel/Catnip and all the new repress label owners are going to release their music on vinyl with or without their blessing. You think Adam Levine or Doig Finny were OK with their music being released without their involvement? No. But none of us complained because Silly Ross happens to be our friend here. That's why we have to stop, take some time to think, and figure out what's important to us before we automatically take the MMB's side. It's called capitalism and Flood and co. are just running a business. Sounds like we gotta make a serious decision. idreamofpunk and jerseydave77 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattisr1984 Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 when other people do this, its not cool. when this guy does, it is. got it. glad that got all cleared up. thanks everyone. RivannaJunction, ditc586 and TFP 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
museummouth Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 Let's all remember this thing was like $35 dollars too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerseydave77 Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 when other people do this, its not cool. when this guy does, it is. got it. glad that got all cleared up. thanks everyone. I'm not saying it is or isn't. I prefer to hear the entire story and understand when he heard the band wanted to do it themselves. If it was at the plant as described in that tweet then this isn't unreasonable. (I do take exception to changing the artwork - I respect Flood but I recently had a broadcaster attempt to change the opening title of a film I did and it was tooth and nail fighting what they thought was a minor change but we saw as a change that tainted the first impression of the film). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bladewillisisdead Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 From what I understand (or the impression that I get is) Abestos reissued some of their albums before being asked not to press this one. It's very reasonable to assume it was already at the plant and he'd put money into it. A band's wishes for their music is important, but if homie had a few grand in already I can't really fault him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shenanigans Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 Would be nice if he showed up to give his side of the story. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youspinmeround Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 Dude doesnt really need to defend anything if he owns the rights to music/release. They were sold to him. People whining after the fact about what you do with something you sold to someone is insane mssskat184 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unknown pleasures Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 Yes, not liking ska is one of the necessary components of being cool Can we clarify that we're talking about "ska punk" here and not "ska"? There's a big difference between and lampwick 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyregret Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 Dude doesnt really need to defend anything if he owns the rights to music/release. They were sold to him. People whining after the fact about what you do with something you sold to someone is insane I don't think he owns the rights to anything, he licensed it along with the other major label stuff asbestos has put out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
just a normal guy kevin Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 I don't publicize this much but I own the current license to the unreleased Circa Survive/My Chemical Romance split EP from 2009. Right now I have no plans to let it be released as I like having it just to myself to listen to and this has upset both bands. Some might say that I should honor their wishes to let the EP of excellent songs be released but I paid for the exclusive license so I can do whatever I want. As my uncle, Earthquake of Ricin Records, always says, "He who owns the means of distribution, owns all." Don't cave in to the demands of the proletariat, Flood. jonnywreck 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattisr1984 Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 I'm not saying it is or isn't. I prefer to hear the entire story and understand when he heard the band wanted to do it themselves. If it was at the plant as described in that tweet then this isn't unreasonable. (I do take exception to changing the artwork - I respect Flood but I recently had a broadcaster attempt to change the opening title of a film I did and it was tooth and nail fighting what they thought was a minor change but we saw as a change that tainted the first impression of the film). To be clear, this wasn't directed at anyone in particular. I don't even care that he's still releasing the record. No skin off my back. I do think it's funny how people normally flip their shit when certain people operate this way but not others. If this was ETR, it would be a goddamned witchhunt. And I agree.... Changing the art is lame but changing the art is almost always lame. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyregret Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 To be clear, this wasn't directed at anyone in particular. I don't even care that he's still releasing the record. No skin off my back. I do think it's funny how people normally flip their shit when certain people operate this way but not others. If this was ETR, it would be a goddamned witchhunt. And I agree.... Changing the art is lame but changing the art is almost always lame. The artwork wasn't even changed that much. The background color is a much brighter green then the original version was. The only legitimate gripe I have is over the insane amount of spelling mistakes made in the liner notes. That's just laziness and if I'm paying $35 for an album I expect the quality to reflect the price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerseydave77 Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 First, Flood owes no one any explanation. If he wants the final word to be the Bosstones so be it. As to the insinuations that there is a parallel to Ross - let's remember that long before Asbestos got into the reissue game it was grinding and continuing to grind out releases for bands that were only developing a following. ETR was told from go by band after band that they didn't approve of what he was doing. This is the first I've heard of anything similar with Asbestos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slushy Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 This is the first I've heard of anything similar with Asbestos. Against Me! ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyregret Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 Against Me! ?? Someone else posted about against me not being on board with their New Wave reissue, I had not heard anything to that effect until this Bosstones stuff happened. Does anyone know the story? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerseydave77 Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 Against Me! ?? Share the story. I am not familiar with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhulud Posted November 30, 2015 Author Share Posted November 30, 2015 In a recent interview podcast with Damian of Fucked Up, LJG blasted about the recent New Wave reissue. https://audioboom.com/boos/3638556-episode-47-laura-jane-grace-against-me?t=0 It starts at the 51:00 mark. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
throughbeingcruel Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 Let's all remember this thing was like $35 dollars too.$26.50 at my shop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerseydave77 Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 Thanks Juan. Will listen. edit: listened. It wasn't full blast but I'm surprised they weren't asked. I had assumed they were with the charity tie-in, it gave me that impression at least. I'm also surprised Total Treble didn't snag that - would have made so much sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sacredheart Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 Weird that someone who loved against me so much that they had all those rar presses couldn't even send one copy of their reissue to the band. slushy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RivannaJunction Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 I'm not saying it is or isn't. I prefer to hear the entire story and understand when he heard the band wanted to do it themselves. If it was at the plant as described in that tweet then this isn't unreasonable. Question the Answers was announced sometime prior to Record Store Day 2015, which is when Joe Gittleman asked (maybe not the best word) Flood to stop reissuing their albums on vinyl. The announcement that Live from the Middle East was being released on Black Friday Record Store Day 2015 was in late October, right? So I guess the question would be - was the licensing and ordering to press process for Live from the Middle East already in the works before the spring Record Store Day? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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