dantheriver Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 https://t.co/TdDpcnCZX3 Doesn’t look like we’ll get LP2 anytime soon. Either he’s really glossing over some more sinister actions or this feels a lot like the Turnover dude situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ps. Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 (edited) so if anyone wants to get rid of their hand painted copy of cardinal, i'll gladly take it since thats seems to be the trend nowadays. Edited November 21, 2017 by ps. CVHX 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Saint Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 Wait, what? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexH. Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 14 minutes ago, dantheriver said: https://t.co/TdDpcnCZX3 Doesn’t look like we’ll get LP2 anytime soon. Either he’s really glossing over some more sinister actions or this feels a lot like the Turnover dude situation. From what I can decipher, he's essentially apologizing for being charismatic and for briefly dating a girl who already had a boyfriend, which ended badly? Wild stuff. Yeah, either he's getting out ahead of something serious or he's just being extremely sensitive (and based on their music, I wouldn't rule out the latter). januarytwenty and copelandkid 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
januarytwenty Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 19 minutes ago, AlexH. said: From what I can decipher, he's essentially apologizing for being charismatic and for briefly dating a girl who already had a boyfriend, which ended badly? Wild stuff. Yeah, either he's getting out ahead of something serious or he's just being extremely sensitive (and based on their music, I wouldn't rule out the latter). Hahahahah. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatsNJazz Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 Wow. I've met Evan twice and yeah he was like the nicest most charismatic person I've ever met, I don't think he did anything wrong. It seems like he might just be struggling with his sudden rise in popularity Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aopps42 Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 Based on his version of things, I don't see why he is apologizing for anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oblivions Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 (edited) 21 minutes ago, aopps42 said: Based on his version of things, I don't see why he is apologizing for anything. You can apologize for things, even if those things aren't criminal acts or if they aren't at the level of Jesse Lacey or other entertainment 'scandals'. We let down people we care about all the time, often in small or subtle ways, and we feel sorry for it and apologize. In his specific case, it's hard to know exactly what to make of what he's shared. There is the best case scenario, which is that he is a good dude who got into some murky waters as far as treating women poorly/uncaringly, him being in a semi-popular band helped facilitate that, and he wants to do a personal inventory before he tries to go on tour again, and there is the other scenario, which is that he did something pretty bad and he is getting out ahead of it with his version which minimizes and frames things to his advantage. I really hope it's the former and that the person he's referencing is OK. Edited November 21, 2017 by swb aopps42 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DecayToDeath Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 Echoing everyone else here (and the FB comments, too) if what he's saying is true then it's kinda sad that the way things have been going lately are enough to make him think he's done something wrong just because he's in a recognizable position. Poor guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shelby Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 6 minutes ago, DecayToDeath said: Echoing everyone else here (and the FB comments, too) if what he's saying is true then it's kinda sad that the way things have been going lately are enough to make him think he's done something wrong just because he's in a recognizable position. Poor guy. This. There's a point where if you're going so far out of your way to not come off as an abuser that it might as well be considered self abuse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SE7EN Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 Echoing some of the other points here (and those made on FB), I can't really see what the huge uproar is about. Yes, maybe he did use his position of being 'famous' to his advantage with women, but then in ANY new encounter / relationship with a potential partner, aren't you always trying to show your best attributes to effectively make yourself seem appealing?! What next...? Because a guy hits the gym every day, and gets ripped, he isn't then allowed to use his physique to be more appealing to women?!?! Whilst I am 100% for equality and everyone being on a level playing field, this just feels like PC feminist nonsense gone too far. Apologising for being a talented, charismatic, and sexually appealing artist, who women want to be with, is ridiculous. What if this was the other way around and it was a woman fronting a band who had been with people, in-part due to her fame and status? Maybe I am wrong, but I don't think we would be having this conversation, nor would the woman feel as though she had anything to apologise for. Unless he has actually pushed women into sexual encounters, in exchange for making promises of fame and fortune, and the like, I can't see the problem. I've also met Evan before and saw him talking to many fans of all races, genders and ages, and couldn't see anything more than a genuinely excited and enthusiastic performer getting a buzz from meeting his fans. Everyone needs to chill out, and just let people screw one other, if that's what both parties want to do. Anyway, back to music... Still hoping for a new album within the next 12 months! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatsNJazz Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 34 minutes ago, SE7EN said: Echoing some of the other points here (and those made on FB), I can't really see what the huge uproar is about. Yes, maybe he did use his position of being 'famous' to his advantage with women, but then in ANY new encounter / relationship with a potential partner, aren't you always trying to show your best attributes to effectively make yourself seem appealing?! What next...? Because a guy hits the gym every day, and gets ripped, he isn't then allowed to use his physique to be more appealing to women?!?! Whilst I am 100% for equality and everyone being on a level playing field, this just feels like PC feminist nonsense gone too far. Apologising for being a talented, charismatic, and sexually appealing artist, who women want to be with, is ridiculous. What if this was the other way around and it was a woman fronting a band who had been with people, in-part due to her fame and status? Maybe I am wrong, but I don't think we would be having this conversation, nor would the woman feel as though she had anything to apologise for. Unless he has actually pushed women into sexual encounters, in exchange for making promises of fame and fortune, and the like, I can't see the problem. I've also met Evan before and saw him talking to many fans of all races, genders and ages, and couldn't see anything more than a genuinely excited and enthusiastic performer getting a buzz from meeting his fans. Everyone needs to chill out, and just let people screw one other, if that's what both parties want to do. Anyway, back to music... Still hoping for a new album within the next 12 months! I haven't seen anyone actually seem upset about this, Evan is the only person I've seen post anything about this. Is there an outrage? I don't think so Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SE7EN Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 18 minutes ago, Codyoster said: I haven't seen anyone actually seem upset about this, Evan is the only person I've seen post anything about this. Is there an outrage? I don't think so Many of the 700+ people on the FB post seem pretty upset and opinionated! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatsNJazz Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 Just now, SE7EN said: Many of the 700+ people on the FB post seem pretty upset and opinionated! Oh, I don't have a Facebook for that same reason. I don't think anyone even knows what this whole situation is about, at least I don't know where the accusation came from or what made Evan address whatever is he addressed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SE7EN Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 Just now, Codyoster said: Oh, I don't have a Facebook for that same reason. I don't think anyone even knows what this whole situation is about, at least I don't know where the accusation came from or what made Evan address whatever is he addressed Yes, definitely agree that without knowing the full story it's hard to say more right now. Guessing he feels that the other party may speak out at some point, otherwise why go public with that kind of statement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DecayToDeath Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 2 hours ago, Codyoster said: I haven't seen anyone actually seem upset about this, Evan is the only person I've seen post anything about this. Is there an outrage? I don't think so 2 hours ago, SE7EN said: Many of the 700+ people on the FB post seem pretty upset and opinionated! I saw folks on /r/IndieHeads have serious concern over this, and some people on Twitter saying rude things about Evan and implying he's some kind of legitimate sexual predator. Hope it doesn't go too far and ruin their career, or in the very least, album cycle. SE7EN 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shelby Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 46 minutes ago, DecayToDeath said: I saw folks on /r/IndieHeads have serious concern over this, and some people on Twitter saying rude things about Evan and implying he's some kind of legitimate sexual predator. Hope it doesn't go too far and ruin their career, or in the very least, album cycle. I don't get why people seem to get off over being outraged. Literally no proof or reason but the opportunity to be holy is too good to pass up I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek™ Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 1 hour ago, Sunshine said: I don't get why people seem to get off over being outraged. Literally no proof or reason but the opportunity to be holy is too good to pass up I guess. Easily the grossest thing I’ve read on here. dantheriver, Shelby and Mattallurgist 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oblivions Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 (edited) Nm. Edited November 27, 2017 by swb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SE7EN Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 Was due to see them in a few weeks... All shows cancelled. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shelby Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 What's more annoying? A bump without any information or this? https://pitchfork.com/news/pinegrove-say-new-album-is-finished-have-no-current-plans-to-release-it/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Don Volante Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 This whole situation is annoying and upsetting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teddy Posted April 9, 2018 Share Posted April 9, 2018 Damn, and those few glimpses of the new LP in those mini-series on youtube is all we got of the new shiz. I was really diggin them too. Guess we'll have to wait and let them do whatever they need to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erthan Posted September 26, 2018 Share Posted September 26, 2018 Some updates about the band/Evan: https://pitchfork.com/features/article/reckoning-with-pinegrove Apparently the new LP comes out on the 28th of September? Shitty Rambo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Barkley Posted September 26, 2018 Share Posted September 26, 2018 Show me the preorder! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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