WAXXX Posted July 29, 2016 Share Posted July 29, 2016 3 minutes ago, BuzzersonKillwell said: No it isn't. The same way it wasn't relevant when it happened to Paul. He will not be nominated. relevant in the sense that it will definitely impact how people vote in the coming election. Shitty Rambo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuzzersonKillwell Posted July 29, 2016 Share Posted July 29, 2016 It may. I'm sure that was part of his calculus. We won't know the lasting effect on the DNC or this election until after November. To be clear, I'm not trying to defend that actions of the DNC here. My only point was that I don't think Bernie Sanders is a sellout. He is my senator and has been a principled politician for as long as I've known and voted for him. I understand that post-primary season is schadenfreude central, but I personally have no problem with his choice, I think it was probably as astute a choice as could be made, given the circumstance. That doesn't mean you have to agree with me. nancy_raygun 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shitty Rambo Posted July 29, 2016 Share Posted July 29, 2016 1 hour ago, WAXXX said: relevant in the sense that it will definitely impact how people vote in the coming election. Burn! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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nancy_raygun Posted July 29, 2016 Share Posted July 29, 2016 I really don't see the sellout bit, and I don't see how Hillary is so corrupted and evil. Bernie never had a chance of winning. He knew and his (reasonable) supporters knew it. That wasn't what his campaign was about. And to the point about the donations, I donated about $100 and I am glad that he endorsed Clinton. I feel that was donation money well-spent. Because his campaign pulled the party to the left and showed that there is massive support for social programs/initiatives and entitlement programs. Now Clinton is going into the general with a platform that highlights equality and social justice. In addition to one Sander's biggest draws, the promise to enact legislation to make public colleges free of charge to 83% of young Americans. I think it's ridiculous that anyone could see that as selling out. If anything, his campaign accomplished more than anyone could have possibly imagined. A fringe candidate that wasn't even a member of the party influenced major policy and platform change for the presidential nominee. I see that as an enormous victory for the Sanders camp and supporters. futures, YouTwo, stl_ben and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nancy_raygun Posted July 29, 2016 Share Posted July 29, 2016 One other thing, I don't think anyone should be that upset over the DNC emails. Yes, maybe it's unethical for party management to favor a primary candidate and use the weight of the party's influence to ensure that candidate's victory. But I have no problem with the NeverTrump movement. And because the Republicans didn't step up and take care of Trump when they had the chance, every Republican politician in the country is going to deal with the backlash. No matter what, whether he wins or loses, his candidacy hurts the party. And so with that in mind, I think it would be hypocritical of me to badmouth the DNC for what they did. Because Clinton is the stronger candidate. And while I sided more with Sanders on issues, I would find it tough to argue that he'd be a more effective leader. stl_ben 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cantdance Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 I agree with everything you said but one part: a political party should never be allowed to tip the scales for one candidate over another. I know it happens, but you shouldn't be cool with the practice. Shitty Rambo and WAXXX 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harryq Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 15 minutes ago, cantdance said: I agree with everything you said but one part: a political party should never be allowed to tip the scales for one candidate over another. I know it happens, but you shouldn't be cool with the practice. I think I'm okay with it if the candidate is not a member of the party. if they were biased against martin o'malley, that would seem worse to me than having a bias against a guy who (literally?) hasn't paid his dues to the party. stl_ben 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shitty Rambo Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 18 hours ago, nancy_raygun said: I really don't see the sellout bit, and I don't see how Hillary is so corrupted and evil. Sir, you've made multiple errors in judgement. WAXXX 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shitty Rambo Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 WAXXX, vinyl addict, KingTacoMunster and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cantdance Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 3 hours ago, harryq said: I think I'm okay with it if the candidate is not a member of the party. if they were biased against martin o'malley, that would seem worse to me than having a bias against a guy who (literally?) hasn't paid his dues to the party. http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/omalley-dnc-clearly-hurt-my-odds-of-succeeding/article/2598123 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harryq Posted July 31, 2016 Share Posted July 31, 2016 10 hours ago, cantdance said: http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/omalley-dnc-clearly-hurt-my-odds-of-succeeding/article/2598123 Did the leaked emails say anything like "How are we gonna take down O'Malley?" I haven't heard of any. As far as I'm aware, he has only complained about the lack of debates, but his chances were pretty low going into the debates (as I recall), so I don't know if he really has an argument in that regard. It seems to me that he's complaining about being unknown compared to Hillary, but I don't think you can blame that on the DNC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WAXXX Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 On 7/29/2016 at 4:10 PM, nancy_raygun said: I don't see how Hillary is so corrupted and evil On 7/29/2016 at 4:18 PM, nancy_raygun said: Yes, maybe it's unethical for party management to favor a primary candidate and use the weight of the party's influence to ensure that candidate's victory. yikes. how i imagine someone trying to rationalize the evil and corruption: Tommy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shitty Rambo Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 The ghost of common sense... knifeparty, hippielauryn, Derek™ and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TFP Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 She's got those wild eyes after being surprised she slid through all of her scandals. Shitty Rambo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonnystorm777 Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 43 minutes ago, Shitty Rambo said: The ghost of common sense... This made me laugh out loud. Shitty Rambo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shitty Rambo Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 1 hour ago, thefavoriteplay said: She's got those wild eyes after being surprised she slid through all of her scandals. She should be sending Michelle Obama a fruit basket everyday for the next 30 years for saving her ass at the DNC haha. Tommy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 47 minutes ago, Shitty Rambo said: She should be sending Michelle Obama a fruit basket everyday for the next 30 years for saving her ass at the DNC haha. I still couldn't believe Michelle said all those nice things with a straight face. You know that hurt so bad inside Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shitty Rambo Posted August 2, 2016 Share Posted August 2, 2016 Such a no-brainer. TheGhostOfRandySavage 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominic_ Posted August 4, 2016 Share Posted August 4, 2016 ://////////// http://www.nytimes.com/video/us/politics/100000004533191/unfiltered-voices-from-donald-trumps-crowds.html nancy_raygun and WAXXX 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
futures Posted August 4, 2016 Share Posted August 4, 2016 4 hours ago, Issei Hyoudou said: ://////////// http://www.nytimes.com/video/us/politics/100000004533191/unfiltered-voices-from-donald-trumps-crowds.html oh my god that is so gross Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WAXXX Posted August 4, 2016 Share Posted August 4, 2016 8 hours ago, Issei Hyoudou said: ://////////// http://www.nytimes.com/video/us/politics/100000004533191/unfiltered-voices-from-donald-trumps-crowds.html thank you for this. it made my morning. "hillary clinton needs to get her ass spanked." hahahahahaha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vinyl addict Posted August 4, 2016 Share Posted August 4, 2016 5 hours ago, futures said: oh my god that is so gross Some, yes, but not nearly all of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TFP Posted August 4, 2016 Share Posted August 4, 2016 Hillary Clinton worked with French company Lafarge that has backed ISIS - new WikiLeaks info: https://www.mintpressnews.com/hillary-clinton-served-on-the-board-of-a-company-who-funds-is/219060/ WAXXX 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WAXXX Posted August 4, 2016 Share Posted August 4, 2016 6 hours ago, futures said: oh my god that is so gross 1 hour ago, vinyl addict said: Some, yes, but not nearly all of it. it's also sad that's all they could get over the course of an entire year. you can't do this at hillary rallies because hillary rallies don't exist. Shitty Rambo and Tommy 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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