tonyfranciosa Posted July 9, 2017 Share Posted July 9, 2017 (edited) On another, non-price tip, can I just say how much this Prick LP rules. I haven't heard it since college (circa 1997) and it is as batshit as I remember. Too bad TR doesn't have the major label clout to get stuff like this out thereally these days. No one would take a chance on NIN today, let alone one of his insane pet projects like this or Manson. Edited July 9, 2017 by tonyfranciosa Adam10647 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skycriesmary Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 11 hours ago, Canuckle said: I'm in the 'this set was meant for diehards' camp. This isn't The Fragile or Broken or TDS.... or MCIS or a smaller bands debut album.... it's a collection of instrumentals, alternative takes, demos and b-sides. For that reason, from a business perspective, I get why it's $80, but also see why an objective observer would see this as overpriced. TR has always put a price on exclusivity and has never had a problem with charging out the wazoo for the 'full' package (Ghosts Deluxe, TGWTDT, Cargo In The Blood). Also, if $80 gets him the cash he needs to tour and make more music (assuming a chunk of the other sales go to the labels), then it's a huge thumbs up from me. TR has a net worth of 70 million, he doesn't need to fist his fans to release expanded takes of material that was originally put out almost 20 years ago. Again, he puts it out there at this price because he know most of his fan base will bite. I have no problems paying it, as I've dug his music for so long, but I get why people are complaining. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bladewillisisdead Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 15 hours ago, tonyfranciosa said: On another, non-price tip, can I just say how much this Prick LP rules. I haven't heard it since college (circa 1997) and it is as batshit as I remember. Too bad TR doesn't have the major label clout to get stuff like this out thereally these days. No one would take a chance on NIN today, let alone one of his insane pet projects like this or Manson. Like the post above mine says, Trent has a net worth of $70million. If he wanted to help a weird band put out a weird record he could. He has the resources and would simply need to send out an email to his fan mailing list like "Hey, check out this band and buy their record from me." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam10647 Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 (edited) I think the music on Deviations is fantastic I'm hearing new things in songs that I've been listening to for almost 20 years. The new songs are awesome, I've been listening to it non stop since I got it. Unfortunately the presentation is a little under whelming, a little better than the standard 4LP Ghosts edition but fall well short of say the 20th anniversary Nevermind reissue that had a similar price point. I can't say this is surprising given that this is the 1st release since Rob Sheridan left the band sometime last year. He's handled all visual aspects (tour production, package design, posters ect) of the band since the Fragile era. He was a huge part of the band for almost 20 years and has set the standard for what we expect from a NIN release. There were clearly huge production issues with this release and if I had to guess Trent was focused on making sure the music was on point rather than the packaging. As it's been pointed out this is a high dollar deluxe release that is not for everyone. I'd say we overpaid by about 20 bucks given what we got, but I'm not going to lose sleep over it. If you're still disappointed hit up Sandbag and see if you can get your money back or wait a few years and E-Bay it and double your money.....anyway that's my 2 cents. Also I think the fact that there's no way to buy this digitally is on purpose TR knows that his fans are savvy enough to track down the music for free. So rather than charge you for it I think he's saying I dont care go get it. Edited July 10, 2017 by Adam10647 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam10647 Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 I actually ordered 2 copies of Deviations 1 when they went up and another after the site when back up a month ago. My 2nd one just showed up no email for tracking or anything. However it was packed in a slightly bigger box with a bit of bubble wrap around it. Pretty my in perfect condition a few very minor spots from the shrink wrapping. They really should have done the 1st batch like this. daegor 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcpherson123 Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 Probably they learned their lesson after getting like a 1000 requests for replacement jackets on the first batch. It sucks that it took them all those damaged orders to learn how to ship records properly. Hopefully, they'll keep improving. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daegor Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 I've actually been wondering if all the shitty packing you guys got was packed by Firebrand, all ready to go. The NIN camp did make it sound like they were sitting on shipments, perhaps the reality of that situation was literal. It was also explain why they couldn't touch the Firebrand orders (take it or get it refunded, no other options). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fish Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 24 minutes ago, daegor said: I've actually been wondering if all the shitty packing you guys got was packed by Firebrand, all ready to go. The NIN camp did make it sound like they were sitting on shipments, perhaps the reality of that situation was literal. It was also explain why they couldn't touch the Firebrand orders (take it or get it refunded, no other options). Also I just noticed that the Prick LP I got a few weeks ago was shipped to me from Texas and was packaged perfectly, while Deviations came to me from Pennsylvania. So you may be onto something. vinyl addict 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vinyl addict Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 2 minutes ago, fish said: Also I just noticed that the Prick LP I got a few weeks ago was shipped to me from Texas and was packaged perfectly, while Deviations came to me from Pennsylvania. So you may be onto something. Ditto Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ntslash Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 My Deviations also came from PA. Anyone get a Deviations from elsewhere? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bladewillisisdead Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 Yeah, I remember before Deviations shipped but after the switch to Sandbag someone in here mentioned their order of like Lost Highway or something shipped from TX. I thought it was weird when my Deviations tracking showed it coming from PA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam10647 Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 (edited) The one I got today came from TX like the rest of the stuff. My tracking for my copy of Before the Flood says Ca. My guess is Sand Bag has depots all over. Edited July 11, 2017 by Adam10647 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harryq Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 4 hours ago, daegor said: I've actually been wondering if all the shitty packing you guys got was packed by Firebrand, all ready to go. The NIN camp did make it sound like they were sitting on shipments, perhaps the reality of that situation was literal. It was also explain why they couldn't touch the Firebrand orders (take it or get it refunded, no other options). for what it's worth, my Before the Flood order was packed quite well (and that was delivered before this whole Firebrand/SandBag situation came about). my guess at the moment is that TF:D1 was simply "too big" to fit in a standard mailer with extra padding and they didn't think it was necessary/worthwhile to use big mailers. in any case, it'll be interesting to see what they do when they're shipping boxes with 7 LPs + a 7" at the beginning of August... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuckle Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 On 7/9/2017 at 9:47 PM, skycriesmary said: TR has a net worth of 70 million, he doesn't need to fist his fans to release expanded takes of material that was originally put out almost 20 years ago. Again, he puts it out there at this price because he know most of his fan base will bite. I have no problems paying it, as I've dug his music for so long, but I get why people are complaining. I get why people are complaining too... but he also released a $300 6xLP set for TGWTDT an ambient soundtrack... or $300 for a 4xLP Ghost I-IV set of instrumental 'thoughts'. While those both clearly trump Deviations in quality, TR has always put a premium on the full experience, and this is no difference. Again, I'm not suggesting people should not be disappointed with the end result of this, but no one should be surprised at TR charging $80 for this. ... or he may just be realizing raising four children in LA is DAMN expensive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CurtMyers Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 Wow it would be nice if I actually got the records I ordered. This is a fucking mess. Fuck this guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek™ Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 8 minutes ago, CurtMyers said: CurtMyers 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcpherson123 Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 (edited) This is definitely a mess but I can't wait to spin The Fragile LP and Broken LP as soon as I can readily snag them on the cheap. I would really love it if Further Down The Spiral were to be pressed for the first time as well. EDIT: I almost forgot. It would have to include the "Ruiner (Version)" remix from the UK Exclusive CD release. Edited July 13, 2017 by mcpherson123 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vinyl addict Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 7 hours ago, CurtMyers said: Wow it would be nice if I actually got the records I ordered. This is a fucking mess. Fuck this guy. Did you get the wrong records shipped? Or you are just still waiting for them to ship? They DID tell us they would ship in "summer" when we ordered them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bladewillisisdead Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 An 8 month pre-order with multiple delays isn't even that bad. Like, I know it sucks to give someone a bunch of money and then have to wait for the better part of a year but you gotta expect that. I'm just happy (and very surprised) they sent out Deviations to people who ordered it with the. Other records. Adam10647 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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natenomm Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 Oh hey Adam10647 and Dustinhxc 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freezeflash Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 (edited) There's also a new physical component. https://store.nin.com/collections/music/products/add-violence-ep-plus-physical-component-bundle-digital-ep Bundles here: https://store.nin.com/collections/music/products/add-violence-digital-ep-physical-component-add-violence-meter-shirt-anxiety-beanie-3-patches-keychain-bundle https://store.nin.com/collections/music/products/add-violence-digital-ep-physical-component-add-violence-meter-shirt-bundle Looks like the 12" isn't available to purchase by itself (yet). Edited July 13, 2017 by freezeflash Adam10647 and lethalenforcer 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lethalenforcer Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 Beet me 2 it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dustinhxc Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 9 minutes ago, natenomm said: Oh hey Oh my goddess yes vinyl addict 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam10647 Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 9 minutes ago, natenomm said: Oh hey Nice I really dig this a lot more than anything off the last EP. Excited to here the rest . Wish I could order the Physical Component and the vinyl to save on shipping but with 22,000 components in stock should take a while to sellout. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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