youspinmeround Posted December 31, 2016 Share Posted December 31, 2016 http://www.westword.com/music/meet-virgil-dickerson-the-most-important-player-in-denver-music-in-2016-8622129 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowserhound Posted December 31, 2016 Share Posted December 31, 2016 Wow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhulud Posted December 31, 2016 Share Posted December 31, 2016 tape 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shenanigans Posted December 31, 2016 Share Posted December 31, 2016 Can't wait to read the comments as this spreads, although I feel like a lot of the people that know the story are probably out of the vinyl world at this point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLegendOfMidna Posted December 31, 2016 Share Posted December 31, 2016 Someone give me a quick rundown. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
throughbeingcruel Posted December 31, 2016 Share Posted December 31, 2016 1 hour ago, cameronbudde said: Someone give me a quick rundown. Dude ran a label through VC and I believe it functioned as a co-op of sorts for some releases? A ton of people paid money up front to get something press and he just bailed. All this happened way before I found this place, but that's what I've gathered. Sucks he did that because he pressed some awesome shit through that label. TheLegendOfMidna 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdwell Posted December 31, 2016 Share Posted December 31, 2016 still waiting for the Under The Influence Vol. 2 series. SO PUMPED for that GaslightAnthem/AmericanSteel split!!! firebird1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacobe Posted December 31, 2016 Share Posted December 31, 2016 6 hours ago, throughbeingcruel said: Dude ran a label through VC and I believe it functioned as a co-op of sorts for some releases? A ton of people paid money up front to get something press and he just bailed. All this happened way before I found this place, but that's what I've gathered. Sucks he did that because he pressed some awesome shit through that label. Before VC, he ran a somewhat successful record label, Suburban Home, that put out some great stuff. On the initial vinyl boom he moved to the forefront of pressing vinyl for labels that didn't have the money or see the need. He created a co-op, Vinyl Collective, to release record voted upon by members - there were a handful of releases, The Falcon, This Charming Man, Jealous Sound, but when it came to press the next LP...crickets. He seemingly took the money made from these releases, all of which were pretty successful, if not very successful, and likely recouped cost +. Some folks got refunds, most got nothing and he made money on the investment of board members. deadbluehawk and TheLegendOfMidna 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boojie Horsie Posted December 31, 2016 Share Posted December 31, 2016 Brandon Benscoter Did Virgil mention ripping people off, or just craft beer? the party started Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morfiend Posted December 31, 2016 Share Posted December 31, 2016 That craft beer bus idea sounded legit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hookups96 Posted December 31, 2016 Share Posted December 31, 2016 6 hours ago, birdwell said: still waiting for the Under The Influence Vol. 2 series. SO PUMPED for that GaslightAnthem/AmericanSteel split!!! Sadly went in on the 300 and 700 sets so I'm waiting for a whole lot of 7 inches! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdwell Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 5 hours ago, hookups96 said: Sadly went in on the 300 and 700 sets so I'm waiting for a whole lot of 7 inches! Daaaaamn dude, that suuuucks. I do have to say....I do feel a smidge sorry for the guy. He had some success, expanded his operation too quickly, spread himself too thin with ideas, and ended up selling off something that was pretty damned successful...hell we're still here on the board so it's name was still worth enough for SRC to purchase it. Dude lost a lot of money, stole a lot of money, probably pissed off some bands/distro/labels (Id be willing to bet SecondNature is still salty about it) and he lost his wife over all this shit. All the craft beer and independent music in the world wouldn't cheer me up if I fucked up that hard. So the fact that he's still managed to stay in the music-world and just keep it local is surprising as hell....I would've RJ'd and just dropped off the face of the earth. for the record, I wasn't a part of th co-op, but I did (against my better judgement) pre-order the Under The Influence Vol. 2 series....and at the time I was genuinely excited about that gaslight/American steel split (which I was told by both bands they had recorded their songs if I'm not mistaken?). Hope like hell he learned some valuable lessons throughout that shitstorm and in the aftermath of it all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billya Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 I didn't know that all that had been part of his divorce. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
somethingvinyl Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 Thankfully I lurked early on before I even signed up. Glad I didn't invest in the co-op. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
konk Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 I regret not joining the co-op and feel that everyone that joined got their money's worth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacobe Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 14 hours ago, konk said: I regret not joining the co-op and feel that everyone that joined got their money's worth. I agree if it was a purchase, however, it was an investment - at minimum, everyone should have got what they put in, if not a portion of the profits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blessedxcursed Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 Being from Denver, I just want to say that Virgil isn't that important to me or a lot of the people that exist here. Virgil and Westwood touch each other's dicks a lot. That's it. BrandonK and bowserhound 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowserhound Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 (edited) I believe the co-op members were a lot more pissed about how it all went down than what they were left with. The whole thing was that you could get out with your initial investment at any time, be it after the 1st release or the 10th. Sadly I think there were only 4 or 5. I forget what the buy-in was but I suppose you could have bought 4-5 records with the same amount of money. And then when the shit-storm started, he just started banning everyone that was upset. He promised everyone their money back and whatnot. Then suddenly the whole site was run by SRC and Virgil was a ghost. A giant asshole ghost. Edited January 2, 2017 by bowserhound *or the 10th jacobe 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dynamitekid Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 " But then the business started suffering because a lot of people were doing vinyl. Those opportunities went away, because the labels saw how many records I was selling and the vinyl landscape got a lot more competitive. As my business was struggling, and as I had to let some people go and downsize, an opportunity opened up at Illegal Pete’s.” Man this dude can fuck right off. He straight up stole from distros, labels & individuals on this board after his poor business practices led to the downfall of his label. The fact that anyone deals with him in the music industry is beyond me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrandonK Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 (edited) 17 hours ago, blessedxcursed said: Being from Denver, I just want to say that Virgil isn't that important to me or a lot of the people that exist here. Virgil and Westwood touch each other's dicks a lot. That's it. Also from Denver, and I didn't even know Virgil was doing anything out here. EDIT: I'm also not super plugged into the local music scene, so that's probably just me. I haven't really taken the time to sit down with any of the Illegal Pete's artists, but I notice it each time I'm in. Edited January 2, 2017 by BrandonK big dummy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youspinmeround Posted January 2, 2017 Author Share Posted January 2, 2017 12 minutes ago, BrandonK said: Also from Denver, and I didn't even know Virgil was doing anything out here. EDIT: I'm also not super plugged into the local music scene, so that's probably just me. I haven't really taken the time to sit down with any of the Illegal Pete's artists, but I notice it each time I'm in. I live in Denver. I see the douche at shows with that stupid grin on his face Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dethrock Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 Does anyone remember the name of the site he sold a bunch of records on after shit started going south? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TFP Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 (edited) 46 minutes ago, dethrock said: Does anyone remember the name of the site he sold a bunch of records on after shit started going south? Greater than the Collective? NVM - I know what you mean, I forget what that sale site was.. Edit - The LP - The Limited Pressing - maybe The Old LP? Edited January 2, 2017 by thefavoriteplay dethrock 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dethrock Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 Yeah it was something like that! I can't find anything in my old emails to remember the exact name. I did buy a ton of shit from there though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TFP Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 Yeah, he had some good deals on there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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