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Marilyn Manson - Heaven Upside Down


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I'm so torn on this record. I got into Manson's stuff recently, I was a child of the 90s but never got into MM's stuff for whatever reason, too intense I guess lol. I discovered AS last year and it's so insane, one of the best albums I've ever heard. Those 3 are classics (Holy Wood has a couple weak tracks for me, not huge on A Place in the dirt/The Nobodys, but the rest rules). Golden Age is kind of alluring for its weirdness but is pretty terrible. 

 

I want to like Heaven Upside Down, something about it I like more than his last few but its hard to put my finger on. It's not terrible and it is honestly a pretty strong front to back listen but none of it stands out and a bunch of it is still pretty cringy/just doesn't work as well as the old stuff.

 

Just a contradictory album, hard to discuss for whatever reason. Feels like pretty stock MM, but there's something I can't put my finger on that is keeping me listening. Hoping it grows on me, I know his vocals will never be what they once were but there's some potential on this record for sure.

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  • 4 weeks later...

So....

 

In the past 10 days I've picked up Pale Emperor on vinyl and I've got the CD of Heaven Upside Down from the library for testing purposes.

 

I gotta say...both of these albums are just ok. I got into Manson during the Portrait days and here was nothing dull or expected about that album....

 

These two...seem a bit...bland to me and I'm not feeling like I NEED Heave Upside Down....

 

Am I alone here?

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9 minutes ago, ghost said:

@Battra No, I think it lost steam pretty fast. I was listening to it all the time for like 2 weeks and now I haven't played it for like a month. It definitely could've used more polish.  

 

TPE on the other hand, I adore. 

I definitely feel the opposite way in terms of polish. I wish Manson would let go and do a much more raw recording for an album.

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8 hours ago, Battra said:

So....

 

In the past 10 days I've picked up Pale Emperor on vinyl and I've got the CD of Heaven Upside Down from the library for testing purposes.

 

I gotta say...both of these albums are just ok. I got into Manson during the Portrait days and here was nothing dull or expected about that album....

 

These two...seem a bit...bland to me and I'm not feeling like I NEED Heave Upside Down....

 

Am I alone here?

I'll take Pale Emperor and Heaven Upside Down over anything else released after Holy Wood...

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18 hours ago, mcpherson123 said:

I definitely feel the opposite way in terms of polish. I wish Manson would let go and do a much more raw recording for an album.

Excuse me, I meant in terms of things like song writing, lyrics, flow, etc. It felt like a jumble of different albums rather than one cohesive release and Manson really could have redone a lot of the performances he gave. It doesn't sound like a completed project to me but more like they got pretty close and just stopped. Production wise I totally agree, it definitely could've benefited from less touching up.

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14 hours ago, JustSchwimmer said:

I'll take Pale Emperor and Heaven Upside Down over anything else released after Holy Wood...

After Holy Wood I completely fell off the Manson train based on the mediocrity of those albums. I love Manson but was not wowed at all by any of that stuff. Finally picked up Pale Emperor a couple weeks ago and it's great, vintage Manson. Will definitely be checking out this new one once I've digested PE.

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