bear801 Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 3eb has at least 7 or 8 songs that i really like but even going back to '96 they were always crying and whining about something. Even back then they were a 'guilty pleasure' (i could never admit that i liked their tunes) just because of how girly Jenkins acted and complained. I'm not surprised about this latest mess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tylervagyler Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 soooo.....is this ever going to be released? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
000000 Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 at first i was kinda bummed that ETR would hold out on them, but after reading through all the comments, good for you guys for sticking to your guns. too bad you cant really show them your other releases so they know that it's gonna be a quality product. all about the $$$ for these guys, unfortunately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derkwithano Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 at first i was kinda bummed that ETR would hold out on them, but after reading through all the comments, good for you guys for sticking to your guns. too bad you cant really show them your other releases so they know that it's gonna be a quality product. all about the $$$ for these guys, unfortunately. I don't think they care about the quality of ETR's releases. Jenkins has Mega Collider Records, so he wants to do it himself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patrickemmons Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 Yeah, they don't care about what we've already done except that they know we had our audio guy remaster the album and he got a lot of praise for what he did to Dream Theater for us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmoney Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 through the proper channels. we try to do our best to get in touch with the artists and have their blessing for our releases When are you going to learn that if you can't get in touch with the band, or the band doesn't respond, to NOT RELEASE THEIR ALBUMS. I get that you're a 'fan', but that doesn't entitle you to releasing someone's music without their permission, even though 'you went through the proper channels." No, you didn't. kurtz 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themean Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 When are you going to learn that if you can't get in touch with the band, or the band doesn't respond, to NOT RELEASE THEIR ALBUMS. I get that you're a 'fan', but that doesn't entitle you to releasing someone's music without their permission, even though 'you went through the proper channels." No, you didn't. The answer to that is obviously "never." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Hundred Fifty-Two Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 The answer to that is obviously "never." This has been brought up with every release. There is a difference between legal and moral. Get the band's permission or don't put out the record. kurtz 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enjoytheride Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 The answer to that is obviously "never." Warner Bros ensured us that they go band/management approval before they grant approval for anything although in this instance that ended up not being true. As stated above, there is no contact info listed on any of the bands websites or social media so that was the only thing I had to go on until they contacted me. As you might imagine, it is not easy to track down personal contact info of most bands members especially major label artists Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 sergeantscruffy, enjoytheride and GradedOnACurve 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enjoytheride Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 This has been brought up with every release. There is a difference between legal and moral. Get the band's permission or don't put out the record. Yea..."Every Release". Quite the exaggeration when we are on Release #24 as of now and have had two problems(one of which the band gave me their blessing in person and wanted a variant until their management got involved and wanted to avoid dtr drama) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sergeantscruffy Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 Warner Bros ensured us that they go band/management approval before they grant approval for anything although in this instance that ended up not being true. As stated above, there is no contact info listed on any of the bands websites or social media so that was the only thing I had to go on until they contacted me. As you might imagine, it is not easy to track down personal contact info of most bands members especially major label artists I don't know why people are giving you such a hard time. It's not like Warner Bros was going to give you Stephan Jenkins cell number. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Hundred Fifty-Two Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 How many people with labels release records without meeting the band face to face first? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmoney Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 I don't know why people are giving you such a hard time. It's not like Warner Bros was going to give you Stephan Jenkins cell number. THEN DON'T PUT OUT THE RECORD. There is a difference between the music as an object and the band as people who create the music, and somewhere along the way, ETR really manages to ignore the latter. AlexH. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themean Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 Warner Bros ensured us that they go band/management approval before they grant approval for anything although in this instance that ended up not being true. As stated above, there is no contact info listed on any of the bands websites or social media so that was the only thing I had to go on until they contacted me. As you might imagine, it is not easy to track down personal contact info of most bands members especially major label artists If you can't contact the band, don't try to release the record. It's really that simple. I don't care how hard it is to contact the band. See above. AlexH. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Hundred Fifty-Two Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 Third Eye Blind, Rx Bandits, New Found Glory, Midtown Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomasj182 Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 somethingvinyl 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
searos Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 Gonna just let people duke this one out why I wait for the finished product and hope it doesn't sound like shit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjb2k1 Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 ross your site still has HRC on it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themean Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 We don't do preorders like most of the labels talking shit. From the Enjoy The Ride website front page: "We have three new records available for pre-order today." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derkwithano Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 THEN DON'T PUT OUT THE RECORD. There is a difference between the music as an object and the band as people who create the music, and somewhere along the way, ETR really manages to ignore the latter. If you can't contact the band, don't try to release the record. It's really that simple. I don't care how hard it is to contact the band. See above. I could not disagree more. There are so many major label AND non-major label albums that haven't even been pressed (that will never get pressed) to vinyl that I'd love to see pressed. If someone can get in touch with the "owners" of the album (the label), and procure a contract, I say go for it. We as music/vinyl collectors benefit from this. In the case that the band gets in contact with you after you begin the process, and they do not desire you to press it, I say respect their wishes, despite the contract. it sucks, but you have to deal with it. I really think the whole idea of "don't press it unless you get in touch with the band" is kind of not a solution that can be applied to all situations. Sometimes you need to go down other paths to get the ball rolling, as band members aren't the easiest people to get in touch with. sergeantscruffy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enjoytheride Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 From the Enjoy The Ride website front page: "We have three new records available for pre-order today." They shipped literally 3-10 after the orders were places...what else you got to throw at me? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enjoytheride Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 ross your site still has HRC on it Andy is super flakey, been talking to him about this for 2 years. Actually spoke to him last week about it again and he is still trying to find the artwork Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emo Revival Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 enjoytheride 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enjoytheride Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 Third Eye Blind, Rx Bandits, New Found Glory, Midtown We backed out of midtown, new found glory and third eye blind because the band's requested it. Rx bandits, ive explained 20+ times, go to that thread and read the whole situation for those who care. Also- for what its worth, hot topic licensed midtown from universal without the bands knowledge or consent yet no one really had a problem with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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