Guest Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 I can't find where I read it, but it was supposedly from the master tapes. Using a CD as a source to master a record, is pointless, might as well buy the cheaper CD since the quality is the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NapalmBrain Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 I can't find where I read it, but it was supposedly from the master tapes. Using a CD as a source to master a record, is pointless, might as well buy the cheaper CD since the quality is the same. agreed but it doesn't stop people from buying up the plain/4 men with beards catalog or ETR stuff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 agreed but it doesn't stop people from buying up the plain/4 men with beards catalog or ETR stuff People want their pop-punk nostalgia on vinyl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcpherson123 Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 Remastered from what though? Sourcing is important, I mean ETR had Cartel remastered from a used cd. I realize it probably matters less with modern music but cutting something from a high rez digital file from the master/from master tapes (not sure the source but given the era it was probably a digital master) vs a lower quality digital or copied source is going to have degradation of sound. This is the reason uk pressings of beatles/sabbath beat out the US pressings any day. They copied the master and sent it overseas to cut the US counterparts. Which is why I don't get in bed with most of these reissue labels, if it's not going to beat out a cd why bother? I buy in to plenty of these releases where the vinyl doesn't sound much different from the cd but it's usually an official pressing released when the album comes out rather than a cash grab reissue on src/plain/4 men with beards (I like MOV cause they use masters or high rez transfers from masters when they are unable to get the tapes) Matt told me it was recorded to multitrack analog tape but then mixed to DAT. I'm assuming the DAT was a stereo master from which all CD's and LP's were originally cut. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NapalmBrain Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 Matt told me it was recorded to multitrack analog tape but then mixed to DAT. I'm assuming the DAT was a stereo master from which all CD's and LP's were originally cut. Cool, thanks for the info Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youspinmeround Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 Remastered from what though? Sourcing is important, I mean ETR had Cartel remastered from a used cd. I realize it probably matters less with modern music but cutting something from a high rez digital file from the master/from master tapes (not sure the source but given the era it was probably a digital master) vs a lower quality digital or copied source is going to have degradation of sound. This is the reason uk pressings of beatles/sabbath beat out the US pressings any day. They copied the master and sent it overseas to cut the US counterparts. Which is why I don't get in bed with most of these reissue labels, if it's not going to beat out a cd why bother? I buy in to plenty of these releases where the vinyl doesn't sound much different from the cd but it's usually an official pressing released when the album comes out rather than a cash grab reissue on src/plain/4 men with beards (I like MOV cause they use masters or high rez transfers from masters when they are unable to get the tapes) So the US Beatles/Sabbath aren't good for you because they copied a master(to tape mind you at the time these albums were made) but a MOV digital transfer file is ok? Plain and 4MWB have never confirmed source material. Kevin Shields started that whole sourced from a cd after loveless because he was butthurt he didn't do it and still hasn't. Are all of their reissues the best? No they aren't but don't dump everything in the same category because MOV does the same stuff. Some of the recording used on some of these reissues wasnt very good to start with Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NapalmBrain Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 So the US Beatles/Sabbath aren't good for you because they copied a master(to tape mind you at the time these albums were made) but a MOV digital transfer file is ok? Plain and 4MWB have never confirmed source material. Kevin Shields started that whole sourced from a cd after loveless because he was butthurt he didn't do it and still hasn't. Are all of their reissues the best? No they aren't but don't dump everything in the same category because MOV does the same stuff. Some of the recording used on some of these reissues wasnt very good to start with high rez transfer from a master is better than a 2nd or 3rd generation copy of a master tape yes. You can find source citations from people in contact with the label on the SHTV forums if you want for 4mwb/plain, but I can tell you from first hand experience those plain reissues are all shit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 The recent bootleg of Loveless sounds better than the Plain reissue of it. I'm sure both are CD sourced though. Hopefully my local record store can get a copy of the Hum repress in. steventangent 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyfranciosa Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 probably the wrong thread, but no news on Downward is Heavenward in some time, yes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostTrail Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 Also probably the wrong thread, but worthy of a bump. Looks like they're working on their first new music in almost 20 years! https://www.facebook.com/humbandofficial/ jeromium 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kisol Posted December 14, 2016 Share Posted December 14, 2016 (edited) 3 copies of the clear /250 available GONE Edited December 14, 2016 by kisol Adam10647 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam10647 Posted December 14, 2016 Share Posted December 14, 2016 5 minutes ago, kisol said: 3 copies of the clear /250 available aaaaaaand suckered into buying a 4th copy of this record #Imanidiot tape and kisol 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highfives Posted December 14, 2016 Share Posted December 14, 2016 19 minutes ago, Adam10647 said: aaaaaaand suckered into buying a 4th copy of this record #Imanidiot That's ok. It's worth it. Adam10647 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andthejets27 Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 Anyone else's copy of this sound awful? I believe I have clear with black or grey splatter. My copy is not only quiet but the "heavy" or "loud" parts of their songs sound overly distorted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kjkenney Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 I have an op so i cant say from personal experience, but i have read a hefty amount of complaints on the src pressing. https://www.discogs.com/master/46990-Youd-Prefer-An-Astronaut/reviews Andthejets27 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pepperonigin Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 I got excited, I thought there was some Downward is Heavenward news... Adam10647 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highfives Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 2 hours ago, Andthejets27 said: Anyone else's copy of this sound awful? I believe I have clear with black or grey splatter. My copy is not only quiet but the "heavy" or "loud" parts of their songs sound overly distorted Mine sounds fine, it is is one of the first SRC presses. I haven't heard about the later ones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tetsuodaironman Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 If SRC's store has the white/green listed as "backorder" (1-2 weeks) does this mean I will get a copy or will it just get cancelled? Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highfives Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 15 minutes ago, tetsuodaironman said: If SRC's store has the white/green listed as "backorder" (1-2 weeks) does this mean I will get a copy or will it just get cancelled? Thanks! Since they pressed it, I'd assume they're waiting on a new press of it. I doubt they'd back order one of their exclusives if they weren't going to repress it, but with SRC who knows? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcpherson123 Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 1 hour ago, highfives said: with SRC who knows? Basically this. If they've got the rights to print that currency, I don't know why they would stop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeromium Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 On 3/7/2016 at 11:19 AM, GhostTrail said: Also probably the wrong thread, but worthy of a bump. Looks like they're working on their first new music in almost 20 years! https://www.facebook.com/humbandofficial/ I had a chat with a barista in my neighborhood wearing a Hum shirt a few months ago, who said he's high school friends with Tim Lash and that they were indeed working on new music. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyfranciosa Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 4 hours ago, pepperonigin said: I got excited, I thought there was some Downward is Heavenward news... yeah I guess this is not happening now? pepperonigin 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
t_k Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 I've never heard this band before. It's like a strange fusion of Deftones and Dinosaur Jr. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highfives Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 27 minutes ago, t_k said: I've never heard this band before. It's like a strange fusion of Deftones and Dinosaur Jr. It's the other way around. Hum is a big influence for the Deftones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tape Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 (edited) 30 minutes ago, t_k said: I've never heard this band before. It's like a strange fusion of Deftones and Dinosaur Jr. Deftones are on record as being heavily influenced by Hum, so this makes some sense. Edited May 19, 2017 by tape jeromium 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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