timsimmons Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 Can't wait. If that teaser is an indicator of the new sound, I'm all in. Best band. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drewberinger Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 7 hours ago, Derek™ said: It's about time. They posted that teaser and changed their profile photo about 55 minutes ago; that is, at midnight (EST). Coincidentally the teaser references both sleep and dreams... how likely is it that we wake up to a single and pre-orders tomorrow? I think Friday is when everything will be announced Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moglog Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 Ugh, I really hope this isn't one of those obnoxiously drawn-out teaser things. Just let me hear something! I will pay you! ptothedo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timsimmons Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 I'm over this teaser stuff. Just announce albums. ptothedo, thesewoodenideas and Shitty Rambo 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek™ Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 2 hours ago, drewberinger said: I think Friday is when everything will be announced Well. That is simply too far off, for me. But really, are music announcements made on Fridays? Ever? I feel like Tuesdays and even Wednesdays feel really common for official announcements and POs. I get that actual music gets released on Fridays, but I don't recall a PO dropping on a Friday in quite some time. Oh well. It at least works out very nicely for my checking account. 18 minutes ago, timsimmons said: I'm over this teaser stuff. Just announce albums. No way man. You kind of wanted a new National album after 4 years. But 4 years and a week of cryptic sound bites and promotional images will seal the deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timsimmons Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 I get that we live in instant gratification times, and it's fine if people want to push back against that, but I don't think you gain anything by sitting on something. Grizzly Bear took it to an obnoxious extreme. I hope the National don't follow suit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oblivions Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 It makes sense from the marketer's point of view but I'm not a fan of cryptic, distorted teaser videos that have distorted ambient music. I'd prefer to see a new press photo of the band or a 15 second clip of one of the twins playing a guitar track in the studio ala Boxer. Or even just a screenshot of a note that says "New album coming soon!" All that said, I love the National and am glad they're back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonnywreck Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 Such buzzkills, the lot of you! I figure bands probably just think it's fun, and it becomes a part of the creative output as a whole. And they definitely have to enjoy seeing people champing at the bit for new music. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timsimmons Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 I think its more fun enjoying new music rather than waiting for it. And its fine to hype people up. But to string people along for weeks is just cruel. Especially when people are excited. I'm looking at Grizzly bear. Arcade Fire seem to be doing a bit of it too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shitty Rambo Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 6 minutes ago, jonnywreck said: Such buzzkills, the lot of you! I figure bands probably just think it's fun, and it becomes a part of the creative output as a whole. And they definitely have to enjoy seeing people champing at the bit for new music. Maybe it would be more fun if all these bands didn't do the exact same stuff. They just change their social media avatars and tease sound bits, and eventually put out a terrible lyric video when the pre-order go live. I guess it's not any worse than the BS Glassjaw and Brand New do. Every label isn't going to operate like Fat Wreck who just makes an album announcement with a date and shares a couple full songs leading up to the release. copelandkid 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dantheriver Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 39 minutes ago, Shitty Rambo said: I guess it's not any worse than the BS Glassjaw and Brand New do. Making it known that you've recorded songs and then never releasing them is definitely worse. jonnywreck and Shitty Rambo 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oblivions Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 IMO, a good 10-30 second teaser shows enough to give the listener a solid idea of what to expect from a song, so they can get pumped. Maybe include one line of vocals or a piece of the main musical melody. When it is a nondescript instrumental piece, you are only going to get its context in hindsight after you hear the full song. Unless the 'identity' of the whole album is in this more discordant and ambient sound? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuckle Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 There's a ton of logistics that go into new releases, whether it's ensuring pressing plants are available, setting up and then selling tour dates, or putting the final touches on the product. All that takes months, not days or weeks. I'll take the teaser approach with the vinyl available on album release day, over randomly dropping a full album and then having to wait 4 months to have it on wax after I have moved on... hobbesthecat 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dreamover Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 Rumor has it their next record will be their last. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oblivions Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 24 minutes ago, dreamover said: Rumor has it their next record will be their last. That'd be a hell of a career. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timsimmons Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 it would be a great run, but why would they decide that before going into the album cycle. Also in this day and age, whats the point? Why not just take an indefinite amount of time between albums. Also, also, source? 1 hour ago, Canuckle said: There's a ton of logistics that go into new releases, whether it's ensuring pressing plants are available, setting up and then selling tour dates, or putting the final touches on the product. All that takes months, not days or weeks. I'll take the teaser approach with the vinyl available on album release day, over randomly dropping a full album and then having to wait 4 months to have it on wax after I have moved on... I'll take them pressing it w/o anyone knowing and then dropping everything at once. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hobbesthecat Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 1 hour ago, dreamover said: Rumor has it their next record will be their last. Rumor has it my balls are big copelandkid 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colbourne25 Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, dreamover said: Rumor has it their next record will be their last. Rumour has it that Donald Trump can slay a dragon with a 6 inch sub. Edit: Fake news. Edited May 10, 2017 by colbourne25 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colbourne25 Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 They just posted another clip.... "The System Only Dreams in Total Darkness" I feel that the pre order could go live within 24 hours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dreamover Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 4 hours ago, timsimmons said: it would be a great run, but why would they decide that before going into the album cycle. Also in this day and age, whats the point? Why not just take an indefinite amount of time between albums. Also, also, source? Take it for what it's worth. Unfortunately I can't reveal my source, and hopefully they change their minds, but apparently they went into this record with that in mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timsimmons Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 That would be disappointing if it does happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek™ Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 Sleep Well Beast. September 8th. Following tour with Daughter. Fuck yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zerohacker Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 Apparently there will be a limited blue variant from 4AD, according to someone on Reddit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colbourne25 Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 Here's the reddit link https://www.reddit.com/r/VinylReleases/comments/6aeymf/preorder_the_national_sleep_well_beast_ltd_blue/ Apparently the link was up for a short time then pulled. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek™ Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 Not to be a total bloodbuzzkill, but if the retail variant is white and the 4AD variant is blue... it seems like that weird "house" icon could be the new album art, perhaps? The one they changed their Facebook photo. I've always thought their prior albums had fantastic art that each stood strong on their own. That new design is a little too minimal and makes me think of The National meets a Monopoly board. Hoping they've got something fancier in store but won't complain either way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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