opivy Posted August 15, 2013 Share Posted August 15, 2013 They were selling Handsome shirts at the 6131 table at This is Hardcore. I wish I didn't order one with the record so I could have already snagged one. I thought the same thing when I saw them! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhulud Posted August 26, 2013 Share Posted August 26, 2013 SRC To Release High Quality Deluxe Pressing of Handsome’s ST Album ShopRadioCast have announced via their newsletter that SRC033 will be a high quality, limited edition pressing of Handsome “Handsome” due out late Sept / early October! The album will feature a single LP along with a bonus 7″ that includes two tracks never before released in North America. The audio was mastered for vinyl and lacquers created by the famous Stan Ricker who is credited for some of Mobile Fidelity’s heralded releases. The artwork will encompasses all components from the CD releases and is laid out across a gatefold (with 7″ slit to house the 7″) and an 11 x 22 insert. They noted pre order will be sometime next week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thievesdont Posted August 26, 2013 Share Posted August 26, 2013 What the fuck? Edit: Last year around the time the Manic Compression releases were announced, PRCDC had hinted to me that they were working on getting the rights to this record. Hm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daniele Posted August 26, 2013 Share Posted August 26, 2013 What the fuck? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jessenpr Posted August 26, 2013 Share Posted August 26, 2013 WTF? I'm not compaining, as this record deserves as much publicity as possible, but seriously... how did the streams get crossed here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thievesdont Posted August 26, 2013 Share Posted August 26, 2013 I'm seriously confused. Anyone able to reach out to SRC or 6131 regarding this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thievesdont Posted August 26, 2013 Share Posted August 26, 2013 From SRC's Facebook: Shop Radio Cast They are completely different releases. Different art, different audio mastering, different sources etc... We got the license in early June and the label accidentally double licensed it shortly after us to the other label. Not trying to compete with anyone its just how it happened. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jessenpr Posted August 26, 2013 Share Posted August 26, 2013 Weird... and kinda shitty for both parties involved. Oh well... more Handsome, more better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thievesdont Posted August 26, 2013 Share Posted August 26, 2013 Ugh, the inclusion of the two bonus tracks are really enticing and I'm very interested to hear which one ends up sounding better. This sucks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
troymess Posted August 26, 2013 Share Posted August 26, 2013 Already got one from 6131 and will probably order from SRC too for the different mastering, etc. plus the 7" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Loyd Posted August 26, 2013 Share Posted August 26, 2013 SRC To Release High Quality Deluxe Pressing of Handsome’s ST Album ShopRadioCast have announced via their newsletter that SRC033 will be a high quality, limited edition pressing of Handsome “Handsome” due out late Sept / early October! The album will feature a single LP along with a bonus 7″ that includes two tracks never before released in North America. The audio was mastered for vinyl and lacquers created by the famous Stan Ricker who is credited for some of Mobile Fidelity’s heralded releases. The artwork will encompasses all components from the CD releases and is laid out across a gatefold (with 7″ slit to house the 7″) and an 11 x 22 insert. They noted pre order will be sometime next week. weird but I'm not going to complain. I already ordered the 6131 version and from the sounds of the SRC version, I'll definitely be ordering the SRC one as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thievesdont Posted August 26, 2013 Share Posted August 26, 2013 Yeah, gonna grab one myself. They really went all out for this one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sabukweli Posted August 26, 2013 Share Posted August 26, 2013 I can't afford both, so the 7" combined with SRC's outstanding quality on their releases led to me to request a cancellation on my 6131/No Sleep order. I feel bad for those guys ad I truly wish I could justify having both. Maybe if more people bought some stuff from my sale thread (wink wink, nudge nudge), I could afford it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cactusbot Posted August 26, 2013 Share Posted August 26, 2013 Just in case anyone was wondering, the 6131 version is band approved and the Shop Radio Cast is being done without the bands approval. Shady shit continues. robobob 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thievesdont Posted August 26, 2013 Share Posted August 26, 2013 If they don't get approval from the band, but get the rights from the label, do the bands stand to make any money from it? I mean, Handsome gave their "blessing" to 6131 so I'd assume they're getting paid through Sony and I'm pretty sure Quicksand were getting paid for the reissues of Slip and Manic Compression. If I'm not mistaken, Hum not receiving anything was due more to their contract with the original label. If I'm wrong, please correct me. Just trying to make sense out of all of this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opivy Posted August 26, 2013 Share Posted August 26, 2013 If anyone wants to let go of their clear 6131 copies now let me know. I'm still looking for one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhulud Posted August 26, 2013 Share Posted August 26, 2013 Each and every time SRC presses some album, the "band did not approve of this!" stuff gets brought up. I'm not defending SRC here, just tired of hearing it. I don't know how the music and record business works. Wouldn't the entity, label or band themselves, who have the rights and ownership to the record itself be the one to license it out if they want? Sooooooooo...if I start a label and want to repress Lionel Ritchie's "All Night Long" and the record is under the ownership of RCA and not Ritchie, and I go through all the proper and legal channels to get the license to press it, and now Ritchie is upset w/ me and not giving me his blessing, how would I be the guy? Would I be doing anything shady then? If the contract that Ritchie signed with RCA states that the album rights belong to the label and not Ritchie, how would getting the OK from RCA be wrong? As I said...I'm not in the business at any scale. (And no idea if that is even the name of Ritchie's record and/or if he is/was on RCA. Just putting examples up.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thievesdont Posted August 26, 2013 Share Posted August 26, 2013 For those trying to get a cancellation, No Sleep emailed me and said that 6131 isn't, and won't be offering any refunds/cancellations for their Handsome LP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robobob Posted August 26, 2013 Share Posted August 26, 2013 Damn. I wonder if members of the band got word of SRC acquiring rights and decided to take it upon themselves to try to get it out first so they could make a little something out of it. I wouldnt blame em one but for it. Music business stuff is exhausting, but I'm glad good out of print music is getting back into print. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thievesdont Posted August 27, 2013 Share Posted August 27, 2013 I'm gonna try to pick up the SRC version also, so if anyone wants some Helmet records I'm selling some here *cheap plug* http://boards.vinylcollective.com/topic/92830-fs-updated-helmet-meantime-original-pressing-strap-it-on-colored-or-black-reissue/?p=1610364 Also looking to get rid of my Manic Compression and Slip colors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cactusbot Posted August 27, 2013 Share Posted August 27, 2013 Each and every time SRC presses some album, the "band did not approve of this!" stuff gets brought up. I'm not defending SRC here, just tired of hearing it. I don't know how the music and record business works. Wouldn't the entity, label or band themselves, who have the rights and ownership to the record itself be the one to license it out if they want? Sooooooooo...if I start a label and want to repress Lionel Ritchie's "All Night Long" and the record is under the ownership of RCA and not Ritchie, and I go through all the proper and legal channels to get the license to press it, and now Ritchie is upset w/ me and not giving me his blessing, how would I be the guy? Would I be doing anything shady then? If the contract that Ritchie signed with RCA states that the album rights belong to the label and not Ritchie, how would getting the OK from RCA be wrong? As I said...I'm not in the business at any scale. (And no idea if that is even the name of Ritchie's record and/or if he is/was on RCA. Just putting examples up.) You're telling me that if SRC contacted Equal Vision and licensed Converge "When Forever Comes Crashing" and released it without contacting Bannon or Ballou that you would be totally cool with it and wouldn't think it was even remotely shady? deletedunknown 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhulud Posted August 27, 2013 Share Posted August 27, 2013 Well hell. I guess I've been told. I was honestly hoping for a more constructive answer and explanation, but oh well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dantheriver Posted August 27, 2013 Share Posted August 27, 2013 It's not illegal or dishonest, so no it's isn't "shady". Does it suck? Sure. David Loyd 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cactusbot Posted August 27, 2013 Share Posted August 27, 2013 How is that not a reasonable answer?It's a perfect comparison. Yes, 99% of the time the label owns the rights to the record and has complete control over it. That doesn't make it right. In my experience, the point of reissues is to have music you love, from a band you love, on a format you love. If you really love the band and the album, wouldn't you want to have some contact with the band instead of just going behind their back and doing it? It is their art regardless of who "owns" it and I would reckon most artists would like to have some input on how their art is represented. The only reason you'd not try and get in touch with the band is because you simply don't care and are just reissuing the album because you know it'll sell copies, which is exactly what SRC is doing. So yes, it is fucking shady. It's essentially an authorized bootleg. It's amazing that it's such a non issue for most of you guys. deletedunknown, pablod85 and tokimedo 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thievesdont Posted August 27, 2013 Share Posted August 27, 2013 Will they be picking up any royalties from this release? I'd assume so being that they signed off on the 6131 pressing. Have they spoken out against this one also? I'm not trying to sound like an asshole, I'm just genuinely curious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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