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    He ran Suburban Home Records, a low-to-mid-tier punk label. Circa 2006 he founded Vinyl Collective, which consisted of:
A Proboards forum, which through an arcane series of events eventually became this website here A vinyl-only distro – pretty novel at the time as the vinyl revival was just starting to take off. At that point the main punk/hardcore options were basically No Idea and Interpunk and some smaller players, and they had their pluses and minuses but mostly they just carried punk records. Virgil carried all that, plus like, rap reissues and other random stuff, and he'd try to get stuff people asked for, so he was like a one-stop shop. and finally, a vinyl-only label – again, very novel at the time. He pressed vinyl for labels that didn't want to deal with it, including a ton of stuff from Ferret & Red Scare, and big bands like Minus the Bear, Norma Jean, & Portugal the Man. People loved this guy, and the stuff he licensed sold big for the most part. He used his newfound clout to continually expand his operation, growing his distro and putting out a ton of music via Suburban Home. A lot of it was like alt-country/raspy-punk-guy-goes-acoustic type stuff, and I can't imagine any of it holds up at all (I do like the LaGrecia album he put out and I wanna say Stereotyperider was good?) Every release came out on multiple colors, there were limited preorder packages with bottle openers and posters and shit, all the collector gimmicks you can imagine. He started a (frankly pretty great) split 7" series called Under the Influence where bands covered artists who influenced them, and somehow roped in like every artist that was big on Punknews in 2008 to contribute. Some of those singles came out on 3 colors. 
 
In retrospect, the first warning sign that he was stretching himself too thin was probably the Cooperative. He hatched this scheme to get 200 people to chip in 60 bucks as an investment, and that money would be used to license, manufacture, and distribute an album that didn't exist on vinyl. Everyone in the Co-op got a copy of the rare color of the record, and the money from selling the remainder of the pressing would go towards the next release. In theory, a never-ending stream of records for 60 bucks! People were gaga over this idea. Shares in the VC Co-Op sold out in minutes. At least one person had a full-blown meltdown on the message board over the fact that they had missed out on buying a share. Personally I had set an alarm but overslept and missed it by minutes. I was so pissed!
 
There was all sorts of stuff around the voting process and making teams and narrowing down the list that I was not there for, but in the end, the first Co-Op release was The Falcon – God Don't Make No Trash, on a 10". As I recall, it did okay. There were some concerned murmurs as Virgil revealed that the record had cost slightly more than anticipated as 10"s cost more to manufacture, but they were reassured that it wouldn't affect the master plan and everything would be fine. The next release was The Jealous Sound – Kill Them with Kindness, on a double LP. A double LP, surprisingly, also cost more than anticipated, and sales were soft. Next up was A Wilhelm Scream – Mute Print, and a sort of complete discography for Gaslight Anthem side project This Charming Man, both relatively straightforward single LP releases. It should be noted that this all took fffooorrreeevvveeerrr. According to Discogs, the first (and only) 4 releases came out in 2008, 2009, 2010 and 2011. In between each release, 200 people are milling about the message board waiting impatiently for any kind of update on what should theoretically not take 3 years.
 
While this is happening, Virgil's operation is continuing to expand. He's hiring people and moving into bigger spaces, Suburban Home is putting out tons of music, and at some point there are too many plates spinning and things start taking a turn. He sells "VC for Life" memberships where for $1000 you get everything they release, forever. He takes preorders for Volume 2 of Under The Influence, with promised artists including The Gaslight Anthem and Minus the Bear, which never materializes. For most of VC's run, all his releases were pressed through Pirates Press as they were the only place that was doing all the splatters, hazes & splits that he utilized extensively, but at a certain point he switches to a domestic plant. Later the word from the rumor mill is that he was so in debt with Pirates Press that they wouldn't take new orders from him. Virgil starts blowing out inventory under the guise of clearing out space, doing big bundles of LPs and 7"s for dirt cheap.  Labels who were distro-ing with VC start posting threads on the message boards that they've not been getting paid for months. Some of them get deleted, including a legendary one where Tre from Deathwish tells Virgil to answer his email and give him his money, in so many words. People start asking to sell back their shares in the co-op as it becomes clear that it's a sinking ship.
 
While this is all happening, Virgil announces a mother freakin' craft beer tour.
 
In early 2011, the bottom finally falls out and Virgil shutters Vinyl Collective, leaving tons of labels, bands and customers in the lurch. He liquidates everything through eBay and his own store, and disappears for a good while, although according to Discogs, Suburban Home put out a handful of releases between 2011 and 2015. The most valuable asset at that point was the message board, and he sold it(?!?) to ShopRadioCast and Academy Fight Song Records, another label that flamed out spectacularly pretty soon after. And now here we are! Virgil basically lost everything, but he pops up again every few years with an interview in some Colorado alt-weekly about his new business doing promotion for craft distilleries or whatever. He's an ideas guy!
 
It's wild to think that there are people who are regulars here who have no idea about Virgil or Suburban Home. Personally, it was one of the first online communities I was a part of, and although I don't post as regularly anymore, it is comforting to have at least one familiar place that hasn't been swallowed whole by Facebook or Reddit. Long live VC!
 

 

Guess I lucked out, mine looks and sounds great (not always the case from KRM).
 
And I like this album a lot! There are new little details I’m digging with every new listen. Fuck it, let’s rank them:
 
Greatest Story
Calcutta 
Apathy
Skeleton 
Metropole
Ghost Stories
Guided Tour

And I know it doesn’t count, but Cocktails & Dreams would probably be my favorite.

Greatest is best, Guided is worst. I’m not crazy!

Guess I lucked out, mine looks and sounds great (not always the case from KRM).
 
And I like this album a lot! There are new little details I’m digging with every new listen. Fuck it, let’s rank them:
 
Greatest Story
Calcutta 
Apathy
Skeleton 
Metropole
Ghost Stories
Guided Tour

And I know it doesn’t count, but Cocktails & Dreams would probably be my favorite.

Never got a shipping notification, but my white copy showed up today.
 
Album rules.

Part of me wishes these would all just go in one massive box set that I blow too much money on, but I think I’ll just grab each set from my local once they’re released.

Holy shit! This is one of those albums I just kinda assumed wouldn’t come out (I see you, Wrens). Preordered immediately. So far sounds MASSIVE.

I enjoyed the hell out of Star Wars. 

They aren’t.  Epitaph bought their catalog and is doing the reissues.

Hot take: This isn’t THAT bad. I generally like Fridmann (The Woods is my favorite Sleater-Kinney album, and lots of people think that sounds like shit too). To be fair though, my hearing is also garbage. EITHER WAY: I still like these songs and am looking forward to the album. 

Hot take: This isn’t THAT bad. I generally like Fridmann (The Woods is my favorite Sleater-Kinney album, and lots of people think that sounds like shit too). To be fair though, my hearing is also garbage. EITHER WAY: I still like these songs and am looking forward to the album. 

Stoked for the Frank Black reissues!

Holy shit dude. Yeah I like the Replacements too, but maybe pump the brakes on the hero worship.

Holy shit dude. Yeah I like the Replacements too, but maybe pump the brakes on the hero worship.

Exactly!  The other three have been quiet during all of this as far as I'm aware.  Any/all of them could have announced the death of the band, or that they kicked Jesse out, or that they all decided to move on and start a new project together (or retire from music altogether).  They didn't.
Also, I can't listen to BN at this point, knowing what we know now.  Some of his lyrics make my skin crawl now, and I really can't in good conscience continue to support this band.  My wife works with adolescents who are by and large victims of sexual assault/abuse, and what Jesse Lacey has been accused of is far more heinous than any BN apologist realizes.  The dude should be in prison, but I guess I can settle for knowing that his legacy is completely trashed.  I'm actually trying to sell off all my BN vinyl and donate the proceeds to a non-profit that helps victims of sexual assault/human trafficking.
Side story: A now-former friend of mine recently got divorced from his wife (who is very good friends with my wife).  The core reason is that he'd cheated on his wife numerous times throughout the course of their marriage.  But what came out after that, was that he'd also harassed countless women in the Seattle punk scene and beyond, both online and in person.  My wife was one of his many harassment victims, but at the time she and I just shrugged it off as drunken stupidity and thought it was an isolated thing, so we kept it to ourselves.  Turns out, that's what everyone else did too.  With the information now public, he has been cut off by just about everyone involved in the scene locally and has been blackballed from playing any notable "punk" venue in the US and several places abroad (he's had a couple of mildly successful bands in the past).
I feel ashamed for not saying anything sooner and I feel foolish for not seeing this shithead for who he really was.  But once it came out that his behavior was more widespread than we could ever have known, I was quick to write him off and publicly warn others about his predatory behavior.  I'd feel sympathy for the other members of BN if they gave some indication as to how they felt about this situation, but I suspect that they knew about Jesse's predatory behavior and chose not to say anything publicly, which is appalling.  Either way, they've been a little too quiet about the whole thing for my comfort.
 
But to get things back on topic, yeah, fuck Jason Tate!  That dude sucks, and changing the website to chorus.fm officially killed my interest in the site (along with a ton of other people, if you look at their traffic numbers before/after the changeover).

Why are any of you pricks complaining about the delay on this?!?
 
One man is in charge of giving you something you want. You can fucking wait! 
 
Sometimes this board make me want to piss on strangers’ mail.

Would just like to point out that it’s almost December and Kevin Shields said a new MBV album would “100%” be out in 2018. I assume it will be out soon then, because if I can’t trust Kevin Shields to finish something on time...well then I don’t know WHO to trust. 

Mine just shipped from DW. I think it only has to travel like, a mile, so hopefully I’ll have it tomorrow. That’s a lot quicker than New Bermuda! 

Women have been afraid to speak up about sexual assault/harassment/abuse forever.  So until millions of innocent men are harmed, "me too" has not gone too far.
 
"Innocent until proven guilty" applies to a court of law. Where it's not uncommon for the guilty to be found innocent and vice versa. So that is irrelevant horsehit.
 
Maynard has always been a piece of shit creep. This story is pretty believable and with the way dudes on the internet have been reacting to this, the victim was right to remain anonymous. Fuck that Blue Lives Matter shithead and his music.

Holy shit. Just listened. This is Beyond/Majesty Shredding territory. John Reis is an American hero.

You transitioned from Reis to Froberg without warning.

Quincetuple was the song that got me into them, still one of my favs. Too bad they probably won’t be able to put the “Abortions for all” version on.
 
Hopefully this leads to more shows.

Quincetuple was the song that got me into them, still one of my favs. Too bad they probably won’t be able to put the “Abortions for all” version on.
 
Hopefully this leads to more shows.

Haven’t been let down by them yet! First 300 are on green, looks to be shipping now.
https://store.greennoiserecords.com/

I was just thinking we needed a thread tracking users who are/aren’t interested in participating in RSD.