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I'm pretty hard about this idea. I do gotta say, I love Minino's work and think the colors are amazing but I'm not sure how much of it'd I'd put up in my house. Nothing says "welcome" like some disembodied arms and guts. Still, it looks awesome.

Sammy there are reasons I love you. This is a fine example of one of those reasons.

If anyone ever talks to Tom Gable or Brendan Kelly ask them to show you the tattoos they gave each other. One or the other of them is married to a tattoo artist (I believe). Anyhow, they're both awful, but you don't notice them amongst the sea of other not so great tattoos they both sport.

it blows me away that they didn't put III out on vinyl. did a major release III? Nope it was done through White Drugs. When I talked to Matt about it at the last warped tour he had discussed doing a double LP of III and the Mariachi project. Bummed that never happened.

Get this

Haha, thanks Yu. I hope a bunch of VCers show it. It'd be cool to do something people were into.

Cross racial bump

Assuming things about the people you assume are making assumptions is awfully assuming of you.

18 on sunday /f/ohio. we should really cyber on twitter. think how awkward that would be for everyone that gets txt updates. That may be one of the best ideas ever.

One, yes it is worse. Chickens and cows are slaughtered for a reason, not merely for entertainment value. Additionally, rarely are they treated with the same amount of cruelty seen in dog fighting, where animals are routinely starved, beaten and basically bred to be aggressive. Secondly, I agree that Vic probably experienced things that I have not, but that doesn't excuse his actions. At some point you need to own up for yourself. As he was 27 when he was arrested (maybe 26) I'd say he had enough time to grow up and out of that lifestyle. He didn't need the money, so the dog fighting was for pure amusement.

Few things in life are more satisfying than hitting the other team with a rocket and watching the guy turn into a skeleton.

Some good stuff. I think I'm going to lay off though. No need to dig a hole for myself right now.

Man...There are kids who have never not had a genesis...Zany

soo....Who's up for some Sexting? A/S/L?

No joke, I got all three and I can't tell them apart.

I use AIM but only rarely...I think I talk to Pat at Fat on it more than anyone else.

Yes it is, which is why I didn't think Olehole would even play. But shows what I know.

I stopped reading all of this after the first page. It's inevitably going to be a circular argument but here's my two cents. It's not a Michael Vick thing or an NFL thing, it's a fame thing. America is much more willing to look past the legal discretion of people who are famous than they are the every man. Chris Rock said it with O.J. "If he was a bus driver he wouldn't even be OJ, he'd be Orenthal the bus driving murderer". Hollywood actors get in public debacles all the time that would cost you or I our jobs and good luck getting a job back once you've got a felony on your record or once you're known nationwide as "the real estate agent with the dog fighting ring". That shit doesn't happen. But because some guy can throw a ball, or run really fast or basically do anything that generates an audience we're willing to let it slide and along with that, so are the people who hire them. Like Ben said, the NFL is a business and as long as it makes economic sense to sign Vic, someone is going to sign him regardless of if he killed a dog or committed war crimes. I don't think that's necessarily an awful thing but until America reevaluates their view on celebrity nothing is going to change.

Good luck man. Rad idea.

Yo everyone should make it out to Thee Parkside on Augsut 29th. Playing that night will be Olehole O' Pioneers!!! The Anchor and The Atom Age Right now I think the cost is $7, plus Thee Parkside has some sick drink deals (and I think they still sell tall cans). Come out and support O' Pioneers!!! on their rare west coast appearance so that Eric doesn't think we don't like him (otherwise he'll never come back). Got it? Sound good? Nice. UPDATE: Show's $7...Deal with it. BAM! The 29th is currently set to be a 21+ show....That can change but Does anyone think a 21+ limit will impact this shows draw?

theres your answer. Fucking hondas...

There is no way this could ever be a bad idea.

NOT WORK SAFE

Is that on the upper level? I want to be closer to Jesus when I see the band.