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damn, can't find it anywhere. Rough Trade says limited to 300 - I wonder what the actual number is or if there are multiple pressings

1 hour ago, timsimmons said:

Looks like Little Demon was cancelled and we are getting a refund. Just got an email 

Damn, if he can't come up with one single in the span of like 13 months... the prospect of getting an album anytime soon is not looking good

according to @frankoceanography on instagram, the Little Demon replacement is now shipping, called "These Days"

would make sense if it's a cover of the Jackson Browne / Nico / etc song, given the subject matter (and considering his brother just died)

supposedly the B-side is blank.

9 hours ago, tdogg241 said:

Aren't test pressings primarily for sound evaluation?  I have a hard time believing a band that does as many variants as TA does a test run for each variant.

Also, the machine operators have probably never seen a mockup of what the finished product is intended to look like.  Checking the specificity of the variant is not part of their QA process.

I don't believe for a second that the pressing plant was unfamiliar with the mockups. I'm pretty sure the possible color combinations (and likely the photoshopped mockups themselves) usually come from the pressing plant. Plants use multi-colored vinyl "pucks" to achieve multicolored pressings. They know what it should look like. (You might notice that indie punk band 7"s from the same eras often have the same similar colors combos/marbles/splatters, from URP or the like. They choose from what's available)

It is not an issue of the labels/artists dreaming up things that are impossible. Pressing plants would not accept orders for things that can't be done. This is a clear example of someone not caring about the final product. Maybe the blue should have been transparent, maybe the pucks were just badly mixed; who knows.

Whether or not a true "test pressing" is made, low-numbered pressings are usually made one at a time; just 500 copies were almost definitely done by one single stamper. It would have been obvious if the first one came out wrong.

Don't get me wrong, I love the album and will be keeping mine. But considering I paid like $10 extra and waited longer? Kinda lame. This could have been avoided. /end rant

48 minutes ago, drewberinger said:

I mean the plant isn't gonna toss out 500 records and start over - especially when the disclaimer explains how the mock isn't exactly what it'll look like yada yada 

But don't they do a test one first? Something like a vinyl blob turning out totally wrong seems much easier to quickly spot and fix than a flawed stamper or poor mastering. From my limited understanding, the machines aren't usually unattended

5 minutes ago, drewberinger said:

 

😞 Oh well...

Was expecting it to look a little odd, but that's "Black inside aqua"? I get it when splatters get all mixed up, but that just seems like the pressing plant was doing something else entirely

Just got an email from Plaid Room about "at least a 1 week delay, but more than likely we're looking at 2-4 weeks."

"We ordered over 1,500 copies of this LP, and even after EXTREME allocations, I'm still expecting to be able to fulfill all of these orders (as long as the distributors' packing lists line up with what actually shows). At this point, I have tracking information for ~50% of my stock, although only about 25 copies have actually trickled in."

2 hours ago, kannibal said:

The RSD version of Sap has an etching just like the MOV pressing. I wonder if this just a repressing of the MOV as a stand alone. 

Hmm... Have been putting off getting the Jar of Flies / Sap set forever, would be nice to have the separate Sap artwork. I wonder if there will be a Jar of Flies standalone reissue soon too

anyone else not a big fan of etchings though? They always seem kinda cheesy to me

18 hours ago, floyd_z said:

Yeah very true.  Mine are usually Pink Floyd boots, ocassionally Zeppelin.  I'm sure both have people that only scour the internet looking for boots.  I think it probably also depends on the country of origin... I believe some countries like Italy have little to no copyright laws.

 

I guess the thing that bugs me is that other sellers from the U.S. have the same items for sale and are not taken down.  Maybe it's the wording in the description?  (unofficial, unauthorized, etc?)  Who knows?

Yeah, eBay flags stuff based on keywords - it's usually not an actual person searching out bootlegs, just listings that use certain words that pop up for moderators. See how other sellers are describing them and copy that

1 minute ago, timsimmons said:

thats the original. I got it immediately. Thats whats in the run out groove of mine.

 

With the date crossed out, like at the top of this photo?

Seems backwards that the repress would have almost the same runouts, not crossed out. Strange

Hey, can anyone who purchased the 2009 first press of Moth / Wolf Cub confirm that the runouts on Discogs are correct?

Seems to be some debate over if the original has M̶A̶R̶C̶H̶ ̶2̶0̶0̶9̶  crossed out and "EW" on side A, or if that's actually the 2011 repress.

13 hours ago, s_alvanip said:

Did this ever go out of print? I always see this at my local store (I think it comes with the script, too).

briefly, I think. Recently people on Discogs/Reddit/eBay have been paying $100+ for it because it's sold out everywhere online, but I found a copy in-store a couple months ago

to my knowledge, the only difference between the RSD and the repress is URP's circled "U" logo in the deadwax on the repress. pretty sure both have (identical?) hype stickers. I wonder if these new copies will also be the same packaging

Hmm, might be too flashy for me. Kind of prefer the regular LP's minimal logo artwork.

On 9/28/2020 at 9:56 PM, bigdz68 said:

Going to be interesting to compare this to the OG on black. Guess I'll double dip for the hell of it

If you or anyone wants to unload their OG black copy, hit my line!

4 minutes ago, mmhmm said:

Took me like 5 minutes to set up my two shipping policies- United States and rest of the world. The shipping costs aren't completely fair to every country, but they're set at a rate I won't lose money on shipping. And now I won't have to deal with people constantly messaging me for a shipping quote. 

I may be oversimplifying this but it doesn't seem crazy complex (as a U.S.-based seller). 

 

I agree. It seems like a necessary step to have Discogs function by the same rules as every other marketplace on the internet. Having to message first and wait for a shipping quote is pretty antiquated in 2020 - everywhere else, it is the seller's responsibility to figure out general shipping rates so that they don't lose money. Sometimes they're a little high, sometimes they're a little low; it generally cancels out

(and I say this as an occasional seller, currently figuring out those rates)

Do you have another music source connected to your speakers? If so, what is it and are you happy with how that sounds?

The speakers will make the greatest difference. Although I'm not familiar with your exact speakers, you have a surround sound setup, which was definitely not engineered with vinyl playback in mind (and probably not music at all).

If you are happy with your speakers, then by all means keep them, but you won't find much benefit from upgrading to turntables (or preamps) that are more expensive than your front L/R speakers.

Cartridge will make a difference - the easy swap to 2M blue, or to a moving coil cartridge, will definitely improve the sound. A high end MC cartridge with a high end preamp, even more so.

But since you asked where the bottleneck is - a pair of speakers will only sound so good, no matter how much money you throw at everything else. They will always sound like that pair of speakers.

Might be a  good idea to look into room acoustics too!

definitely benefits to have a couple other records in your cart for TTL -

free shipping on orders $100+, and 10% off orders of 4 records or more.

41 minutes ago, danyc said:

They just announced that the STORE on 10th street has closed but they still are doing the online thing. Bummed as this was my RSD go-to in the city. No frills but always easy peasy and always well stocked. 
 

Same. Was gonna try for TTL online, but just went to Rock & Soul DJ in midtown and grabbed the last Cherry Bomb and a copy of D-Sides. D-Sides was $5 cheaper from them anyway

11 hours ago, fish said:

They sold somewhere  around 900 copies in under an hour. I still cant figure out the appeal of this band and they are from my town yet nobody I know here has ever heard of them. But good for them for their success.

they're very well known in jazz circles, popular with young music students especially

Similar crowd to jacob collier / snarky puppy / louis cole. Kind of a new subset of jazz / funk fusion that seems to blow up thanks to youtube videos

1 hour ago, INRIhab said:

Been waiting ages for this! I'm stoked. Fingers crossed that the S/T gets a repress in the near future as well! 

We are coming up on the 25th anniversary of the S/T in November... Hopefully they don't wait another 5 years for the 30th

20 minutes ago, Shelby American said:

You're very confused and probably frustrated huh? Well, when demand is as high as it is why would someone sell it for less than they can get? Blind charity?

No, I’m not confused - I’m just noticing that Endless doesn’t sell the way most records do; the prices don’t stabilize when there’s a surplus for sale. If you look at the sale histories, one will sell for $200 then another for over $300 the next day, then another one closer to $200.

I think it has to do with a lot of people wanting this who don’t buy records on the resell market regularly, not realizing that the stock changes. I know it is in demand, but there are always a lot of copies always up for sale, and people don’t seem to buy according to market value - they often buy above it.

I think the release of the 7” singles has driven this behavior; people afraid of Frank vinyl prices going up end up actually driving the prices up.

Sorry, I’m done.

1 minute ago, MyEnemy said:

What???

I mean on Discogs and eBay, it seems every few weeks the highest sale number has gone up, yet new copies are posted almost every day. It’s not supply and demand driving up cost, it seems like people just buying the first one they see. I’ve been following it on both, there are tons of copies always being posted for sale.

People keep buying Endless above market value when they could just wait a couple days for another one to be posted at the lower end of the price range. Instead, they end up paying a top-end flipper and the whole price spectrum shifts up. A year ago this was a $140 record sealed.

28 minutes ago, Shelby American said:

Also, Endless sold for $500 recently... I wonder how people that canceled their order because the preorder was open too long feel about that lol

Who are these people that insist on buying them for such high prices and inflating the value? It’s not like there has been any shortage of copies popping up

3 minutes ago, MyEnemy said:

That’s what he wanted to be the whole time. Wholesome now? Not so much. Short span? 9-10 years? For someone who was in their teens when they started making music, that’s almost half a lifetime and his entire early adulthood, wouldn’t necessarily call that brief span of time. Are you familiar with David Bowie’s discography from 1970-1980?

That's true, maybe it just seems fast to me because I watched it happen (unlike Bowie).

But to be fair, Wolf was 2013 and has Trash Wang, Pigs, Tamale, etc. Not as crazy as Bastard, but definitely continuing  many of the same themes. Flower Boy was a pretty big departure in 2017, Igor took it further in 2019 - they're not that far apart. The dude's only 29.

Wholesome may not be exactly the right word, but by the standards of his hip-hop and r&b contemporaries, Tyler's gotten pretty positive and (relatively) PG.

Even with other hip-hop acts that have seen radical or broad career evolutions - Kanye, Mos Def, arguably Kendrick - I think Tyler is unusual in how his message and attitude have shifted as he's 'grown up.' It does make sense, but it would be funny to put an early Tyler show side by side with a current one.

On 8/11/2020 at 1:26 PM, museummouth said:

Luckily nothing i want this year except Cherry Bomb which shouldn’t be too hard to get online after. 

Curious to see how this one does. 7250 is quite a lot but it seems like absolutely everyone wants a copy, and I'm sure people will be trying to flip them (some successfully, even) on reddit before they're sold out online

It's still hilarious to me how one of the most polarizing and vulgar rappers of the early 2010s has turned into this wholesome, mainstream pop artist in such a short span of time. I guess this album is like right smack in the middle of that transition. (I too will be trying to get it, of course)

7 hours ago, MyEnemy said:

Just tried to sell something on there for $45 and they wanted to charge $8.50 in fees.
 

Yep, fuck right off StockX.

It's definitely not conducive to vinyl - everything sold on StockX has to be shipped from the seller to StockX themselves, to be 'authenticated' by the company, then StockX ships the item to the buyer. That's why the fees are so high

Like Reshiram said, it's meant for people flipping sneakers and streetwear, things that are notorious for being faked with near-identical replicas. Why anyone would buy records (especially at such a markup!) on there is beyond me.