rickman Posted April 30, 2014 Share Posted April 30, 2014 Interested in knowing if merchnow will have their own variants Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siberiankiss Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 i picked this up today at my local hot topic. happy to say that this record sounds absolutely mint. no skips whatsoever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realianstanford Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 Yeah, and there was no real reason it was taken off. It's not like it was a weak song or anything. They played it at a homestate show I was at and everyone went nuts and was singing along so I don't think people hate it at all. They took it off, presumedly, because of copyright issues (several lines in it are straight out of one of Charles Bukowskis poem, indeed, the album is named after a collection of poems by him) as was the poem recited at the end of The Undertaker's Thirst for Revenge, as it was a poem by Rod McKuen. Pretty sure it is oh yeah? Aside from this topic and it being on the upcoming releases list on Modern vinyl, there's literally no information about this re-issue, so I don't know how you're pretty sure. Also, just because it's a 2xLP doesn't mean anything, as albums of any length are being pressed on double LPs just because they can to make more money off of us. I'm pretty sure the band wants to put that far behind them now that Owens is back in the band. Though, since they're on a different label now, maybe EVR will do it anyways. I'd buy the hell out of it. honestly, fuck Craig. I'm buying these albums for pure nostalgic reasons, but over the years I've really lost respect for the guy. Aside from all the shit he put the band through with his drug abuse, when he left/was kicked out he started D.R.U.G.S, released an album, talked shit about Chiodos, and whenever there was a glimmer of a chance to re join the band, he just fucking dropped the rest of his band mates in D.R.U.G.S (which was the most ridiculous set of musicians) like they were nothing. Brandon Bolmer is a way better vocalist than Craig is anymore, and Illuminaudio is my favorite Chiodos record, even though I look at that record as a different band. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danionly Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 Pretty sure it is oh yeah? Aside from this topic and it being on the upcoming releases list on Modern vinyl, there's literally no information about this re-issue, so I don't know how you're pretty sure. Also, just because it's a 2xLP doesn't mean anything, as albums of any length are being pressed on double LPs just because they can to make more money off of us. ...... onlettingjoe 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSeth Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 ...... my reaction exactly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youngwonton Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 honestly, fuck Craig. I'm buying these albums for pure nostalgic reasons, but over the years I've really lost respect for the guy. Aside from all the shit he put the band through with his drug abuse, when he left/was kicked out he started D.R.U.G.S, released an album, talked shit about Chiodos, and whenever there was a glimmer of a chance to re join the band, he just fucking dropped the rest of his band mates in D.R.U.G.S (which was the most ridiculous set of musicians) like they were nothing. Brandon Bolmer is a way better vocalist than Craig is anymore, and Illuminaudio is my favorite Chiodos record, even though I look at that record as a different band. Craig Owens wouldn't be back in the band if the other members of Chiodos didn't agree to it. It seems fairly obvious to me that it was a business decision on both of their parts, plain and simple. Neither Illuminaudio nor D.R.U.G.S. sold nearly as well as either of the first two Chiodos albums, and the turn out for their shows was considerably smaller as well. So while I'm not gonna defend Craig Owens, as I don't personally know the man, I will say that the other members of Chiodos, minus Jason Hale, played their part in his rejoining the band. And really, it could be a lot worse. At least he's not Jonny Craig (although Jonny Craig is 100x the singer Craig Owens will ever be.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maskedvigilante Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 ...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realianstanford Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 Craig Owens wouldn't be back in the band if the other members of Chiodos didn't agree to it. It seems fairly obvious to me that it was a business decision on both of their parts, plain and simple. Neither Illuminaudio nor D.R.U.G.S. sold nearly as well as either of the first two Chiodos albums, and the turn out for their shows was considerably smaller as well. So while I'm not gonna defend Craig Owens, as I don't personally know the man, I will say that the other members of Chiodos, minus Jason Hale, played their part in his rejoining the band. And really, it could be a lot worse. At least he's not Jonny Craig (although Jonny Craig is 100x the singer Craig Owens will ever be.) I totally see that, it being a business decision more than anything makes total sense to me. I thought the DRUGS album was just okay, but like I said, I loved Illuminaudio. Of course, that's me, and I could see why a lot of people weren't into it, seeing as it was a bit of a departure from true Chiodos style. And I'll agree there as well, Jonny Craig is a pretentious fucking dickhead, but he has the voice of 1000 angels. Damnit. ...... I'm confused...not sure what I said that was funny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maskedvigilante Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 I'm confused...not sure what I said that was funny. Travis acquires all the licenses for the Hot Topic vinyl pressings. Meaning he obviously knows what is going to be released. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danionly Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 I'm confused...not sure what I said that was funny. Travis acquires all the licenses for the Hot Topic vinyl pressings. Meaning he obviously knows what is going to be released. Travis works for Hot Topic, therefore does know for sure, so for you to say he wouldn't is pretty funny to the rest of us. Newbie mistake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
himynameisShane Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 Craig Owens wouldn't be back in the band if the other members of Chiodos didn't agree to it. It seems fairly obvious to me that it was a business decision on both of their parts, plain and simple. Neither Illuminaudio nor D.R.U.G.S. sold nearly as well as either of the first two Chiodos albums, and the turn out for their shows was considerably smaller as well. So while I'm not gonna defend Craig Owens, as I don't personally know the man, I will say that the other members of Chiodos, minus Jason Hale, played their part in his rejoining the band. And really, it could be a lot worse. At least he's not Jonny Craig (although Jonny Craig is 100x the singer Craig Owens will ever be.) I got to go to a small Acoustic show with them before the Devils Dance Tour. They are all some of the coolest guys you can meet, especially Craig. He encouraged everyone to talk to them and not just get a picture and bounce. He also took time to apologize for the inconsistencies of his and the band and the guys all agreed with him. He acknowledges he was a drug addict and is, from what I can see, doing his best to stay away from relapsing to that part of his life One of his tweets from a few weeks back: "Guys, I'm a recovering drug addict. I don't care if you smoke weed, but please don't do it at our shows. Thank you in advance." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agreetodisagree Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 One of his tweets from a few weeks back: "Guys, I'm a recovering drug addict. I don't care if you smoke weed, but please don't do it at our shows. Thank you in advance." Lol. Wouldn't want him to get caught up with WEED. I hear the withdrawal symptoms are unbearable. stuffsux00 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkrtz Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 I know you're joking but I feel that punchline was in bad taste. danionly 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realianstanford Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 Travis works for Hot Topic, therefore does know for sure, so for you to say he wouldn't is pretty funny to the rest of us. Newbie mistake. haha fair enough. a rookie mistake indeed. still though, he did say "pretty sure". Honestly, I don't care which version it is, although I will be a little sad if it's Grand Coda simply because Teeth the Size of Piano keys won't be on it, I think it's one of my favorite songs on the album. Still excited for these to be re-pressed (i guess Grand Coda wouldn't technically be a repress) regardless. I got to go to a small Acoustic show with them before the Devils Dance Tour. They are all some of the coolest guys you can meet, especially Craig. He encouraged everyone to talk to them and not just get a picture and bounce. He also took time to apologize for the inconsistencies of his and the band and the guys all agreed with him. He acknowledges he was a drug addict and is, from what I can see, doing his best to stay away from relapsing to that part of his life One of his tweets from a few weeks back: "Guys, I'm a recovering drug addict. I don't care if you smoke weed, but please don't do it at our shows. Thank you in advance." I guess I'm just bitter about them bringing Bolmer into the band and then kicking him out for the sake of getting Craig back. It is what it is, and Brandon is still doing music, so I suppose I can't complain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsWetWilly Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 Wow! Lot of trash talk on Craig Owens. The dude is an amazing musician. He had a problem. He's recovering. He's doing his best to make up for it. He's human. I'm seeing/meeting them tonight and I am beyond stoked! himynameisShane 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realianstanford Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 Wow! Lot of trash talk on Craig Owens. The dude is an amazing musician. He had a problem. He's recovering. He's doing his best to make up for it. He's human. I'm seeing/meeting them tonight and I am beyond stoked! I don't mean to trash him, and I know I mentioned his drug problem, but the real problem I have with him is his back and forth with Chiodos and kind of leaving all those other musicians hanging just because he had a better opportunity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsWetWilly Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 I don't mean to trash him, and I know I mentioned his drug problem, but the real problem I have with him is his back and forth with Chiodos and kind of leaving all those other musicians hanging just because he had a better opportunity. He didn't leave Chiodos. He was kicked out. For good reason. He didn't just leave DRUGS for a better opportunity. They broke up, unannounced, and eventually, he talked to the other dudes of Chiodos and they joined back up. It's in interviews. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdturbo Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 Wow! Lot of trash talk on Craig Owens. The dude is an amazing musician. He had a problem. He's recovering. He's doing his best to make up for it. He's human. I'm seeing/meeting them tonight and I am beyond stoked! He didn't leave Chiodos. He was kicked out. For good reason. He didn't just leave DRUGS for a better opportunity. They broke up, unannounced, and eventually, he talked to the other dudes of Chiodos and they joined back up. It's in interviews. look at the tears on this one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TAI182 Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 He didn't just leave DRUGS for a better opportunity. They broke up, unannounced, and eventually, he talked to the other dudes of Chiodos and they joined back up. It's in interviews. Craig rejoined Chiodos while DRUGS was still together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmac8706 Posted May 3, 2014 Share Posted May 3, 2014 Up on hottopic site now. http://m.hottopic.com/hottopic/Music/Vinyl/Chiodos+-+Allx27s+Well+That+Ends+Well+Vinyl+LP+Hot+Topic+Exclusive-10186802.jsp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsWetWilly Posted May 3, 2014 Share Posted May 3, 2014 Up on hottopic site now. http://m.hottopic.com/hottopic/Music/Vinyl/Chiodos+-+Allx27s+Well+That+Ends+Well+Vinyl+LP+Hot+Topic+Exclusive-10186802.jsp Thanks for the info! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditc586 Posted May 3, 2014 Share Posted May 3, 2014 Up on hottopic site now. http://m.hottopic.com/hottopic/Music/Vinyl/Chiodos+-+Allx27s+Well+That+Ends+Well+Vinyl+LP+Hot+Topic+Exclusive-10186802.jsp good looking out dmac, added a game of thrones figure and used my hot cash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlaStateGuy Posted May 3, 2014 Share Posted May 3, 2014 Just picked up 2 copies of this. Can't WAIT for this to ship. Going to give the second copy to a friend of mine for his birthday. Next up, Bone Palace Ballet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlaStateGuy Posted May 3, 2014 Share Posted May 3, 2014 I really hope that they included a lyric sheet or something special other than just the LP. I hate it when bands press and only include the LP and a thin sleeve. I just bought Underoath's "Lost in the Sound of Separation" and they have SO much extras including a DVD, lyric/art book, and saw blade 10" albums. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agua Posted May 3, 2014 Share Posted May 3, 2014 the checkout process froze on me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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