TheGhostOfRandySavage Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 The internet! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFB Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 Hey guys this Nic from Cartel. Here to clear up any questions you guys may have. This isn't some official statement, just me needing to get it off my chest. I've been monitoring all the "hear say" the past few days but haven't really gotten involved with this ordeal, frankly I hate that it has created all this drama. We always seem to gravitate towards drama. Hah. I think this release just caught me, as well as the other guys, by suprise. We(the band) literally had no idea or heads up this was happening. Honestly I consider it a compliment that someone would want to release our pressings for us. We certainly dropped the ball on getting a chroma vinyl out. A lot of it was timing, legal & financial issues. We are an independent band now in the US so everything we make or sell literally puts food on our table. We wanted (& still will of course) to make the 10yr anniversary vinyl for chroma very special, with a lot of extra goodies in the packaging. So when we saw this, it took a little bit out of us. It bummed me to see chroma vinyl out before we could add anything to it. I don't hate ETR for pressing chroma, nor do I condone fans from buying it. could we potentially loose $ over it, yes probably, nothing were not used to in this industry. But I do wish communications between all parties (Cartel, ETR, epic) were better so we weren't caught so off guard. Not this "he said, she said". When company ink pressed 'the ransom' were very involved with them on the process. I wish the same would have been for ETR. Again ETR is well within their right to do this & I'm flattered for them actually doing it. I do feel we deserved to know when it was happening, not kept out of the loop (all good, I'm used to being out of the loop, at the end of the day we just show up to play & have a good time with all of you, as it's always been....except for that bubble thing(but who wouldn't pass up that opportunity. No regrets). Chroma is our baby, so we defend it as such. It doesn't matter if we sold our souls to the industry, in the end we made Chroma for all of you. Thank you ETR for doing this, & thank you guys who have supported us. Nic Just wanted to post this because nobody quoted it yet. If someone randomly asked me is "Company ABC" releasing your record, I'd probably pick up the phone after the interview ended and ask questions to the right people. Will Pug from UndertheGun in June 2013: "Speaking of the other records on vinyl, I’ve heard that Enjoy the Ride may be involved with that. Is there any truth to that rumor? Nobody is onboard to do any sort of vinyl rerelease or rerelease otherwise. At this point, now that we’re releasing stuff on our own, it would be ludicrous to try to involve somebody else. We may go to somebody for distribution when we do Chroma on vinyl just because of how many copies we sold originally and we’d like to have it in stores not just online or at shows. We’re going to be very careful with that just because it is our baby. Just to be completely honest, it’s probably going to be pretty financially lucrative. So, we don’t want to share what we’ve shared too much of already, you know? At this point we don’t know how it’s all going to work because of licensing and whatnot." ^ I think this interview actually took place back in Feburary of 2013, so that's well over a year that the band has directly known about ETR's repressing. That being said, I'm at a loss for how band members keep showing up acting shocked and surprised. While I'm glad to see that they're becoming more optimistic and supportive after the original negative outburst... them claiming to not have known beforehand is simply an untruthful statement. agaetisbyrjun 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toomanyrecords Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 Tried to fix that up for you a little bit. LOL you beat me to it. I was going to post something really similar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noalarmplanet Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 I don't even like Chorma, but they should totally write there next album about all this "Drama" and call it "Hear! Say!". I'd Buy it. RowBearToe and zacooper 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGhostOfRandySavage Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 LOL you beat me to it. I was going to post something really similar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billya Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 I don't even like Chorma, but they should totally write there next album about all this "Drama" and call it "Hear! Say!". I'd Buy it. I'd buy it if ETR pressed it. cfrancese5 and RowBearToe 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thejesseb Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 I don't even like Chorma, but they should totally write there next album about all this "Drama" and call it "Hear! Say!". I'd Buy it. There better be a song called "I Didn't Enjoy The Ride" Team Avatar, RowBearToe, oojavaguru and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
futures Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 David The Gnome and cfrancese5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danionly Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 ....And still no acknowledgement that this could have just been avoided if the band had just contacted Epic/ETR instead of going right to twitter? Cue that saying of making your own bed and such. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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noalarmplanet Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 There better be a song called "I Didn't Enjoy The Ride" Also one called "Special Deluxe" thejesseb 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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noalarmplanet Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 Sorry, this thread isn't over till we come up with twelve song names and a vinyl mockup. cfrancese5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFB Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 parkinglot, cfrancese5, isavedlatin54 and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abovetheearth Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 solid 2nd post agaetisbyrjun 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
companyinkrecs Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 This would be more appropriate if I had any other records on deck but... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGhostOfRandySavage Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 ....And still no acknowledgement that this could have just been avoided if the band had just contacted Epic/ETR instead of going right to twitter? Cue that saying of making your own bed and such. Going straight to twitter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NicCartel Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 Jbrana: I agree the approached method to notify fans that this is not our pressing was not ideal. Social media is a very dangerous thing, it can quickly be misinterpreted & turn on you. We never bashed his label nor did we call for the bashing of ETR, we claimed that they were well within their right to do so & that it was released without our knowledge. The difference is It does not have the extras that we will be putting on it next year for the special 10yr anniversary. I still would like a copy of ETR's chroma. Princess Logan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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noalarmplanet Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 Jbrana: I agree the approached method to notify fans that this is not our pressing was not ideal. Social media is a very dangerous thing, it can quickly be misinterpreted & turn on you. We never bashed his label nor did we call for the bashing of ETR, we claimed that they were well within their right to do so & that it was released without our knowledge. The difference is It does not have the extras that we will be putting on it next year for the special 10yr anniversary. I still would like a copy of ETR's chroma. billya, nardes, neilscalesse and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmoney Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 Jbrana: I agree the approached method to notify fans that this is not our pressing was not ideal. Social media is a very dangerous thing, it can quickly be misinterpreted & turn on you. We never bashed his label nor did we call for the bashing of ETR, we claimed that they were well within their right to do so & that it was released without our knowledge. The difference is It does not have the extras that we will be putting on it next year for the special 10yr anniversary. I still would like a copy of ETR's chroma. ETR will sell you one for $25. http://enjoytheride.storenvy.com/collections/27394-vinyl-records/products/7212863-cartel-chroma-etr-webstore-exclusive-variant batman, zacooper, agaetisbyrjun and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bladew1ll1s1sdead Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 I still would like a copy of ETR's chroma.You can get one off their site (: agaetisbyrjun 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zacooper Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 WHO CARES? WHO CARES? WHO CARES? If you call him he will come? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RowBearToe Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 ETR will sell you one for $25. http://enjoytheride.storenvy.com/collections/27394-vinyl-records/products/7212863-cartel-chroma-etr-webstore-exclusive-variant You can get one off their site (: I knew someone was going to do it, didn't take long haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjb2k1 Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 it's good to see you here assuming you are who i think you are BFB 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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