Tom Delonge's UFO Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 I don't mean for this to start a "which label is better" (although, I do recognize I'm on the Internet), but it just seems like Epitaph has been getting the best bands. From Propagandhi, The Menzingers, The Lawrence Arms, and now Joyce Manor. Fat definitely has its current active standouts like Masked Intruder, Bad Cop Bad Cop, Strung Out, and Banner Pilot, but don't have the same energy they used to. I also realize that Epitaph puts out ALOT of shit, but it's fairly easy to ignore that nonsense.What do you think? Am I totally off base? Would love to hear what everyone thinks. MatthewTerbeek 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noalarmplanet Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 I don't really care, but I wish Epitaph would press some goddamn Matches records. nickmitch 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhook Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 Both labels haven't really pit anything mind blowing out as of late. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marexdad Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 Right now, I would say that both the Menzingers new album, and Banner Pilot's are spinning a lot at my house. So both labels are on an equal footing with me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gutzonborglum Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 I think Tiny Engines has 'em both beat. ̮ ɤ ̮, Shelby, thejesseb and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aflycon Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 Epitaph is really down the shitter compared to where they were twenty or even fifteen years ago. You could probably say the same about Fat, but they didn't go from Punk-O-Rama to signing bands like I Killed the Prom Queen. Epitaph has definitely lost its "punk rock" focus and shifted toward those toward of bands, which given their popularity makes me wonder when Epitaph will start trying to sign Top 40 artists. Both could use some music that doesn't eat shit. I own more Epitaph releases than I do Fat releases, but most of them are just represses of the albums NOFX did on Epitaph. Also, I have to say that I like Mike a whole lot more than I like Brett, if only because Mike doesn't try to sell Fat's bands' rights to major labels. But, if you're speaking only about how many good releases have been out lately, then I guess Epitaph has the lead - even if they are all reissues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crime Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 I don't really care, but I wish Epitaph would press some goddamn Matches records. I could have sworn I read somewhere this week that E. Von Dahl was getting pressed for it's 10th anniversary this year. anthemforadoomed 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
horrorbusiness138 Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 Right now, I would say that both the Menzingers new album, and Banner Pilot's are spinning a lot at my house. So both labels are on an equal footing with me. I 2nd that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexH. Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 Epitaph is really down the shitter compared to where they were twenty or even fifteen years ago. You could probably say the same about Fat, but they didn't go from Punk-O-Rama to signing bands like I Killed the Prom Queen. Epitaph has definitely lost its "punk rock" focus and shifted toward those toward of bands, which given their popularity makes me wonder when Epitaph will start trying to sign Top 40 artists. Both could use some music that doesn't eat shit. I own more Epitaph releases than I do Fat releases, but most of them are just represses of the albums NOFX did on Epitaph. Also, I have to say that I like Mike a whole lot more than I like Brett, if only because Mike doesn't try to sell Fat's bands' rights to major labels. But, if you're speaking only about how many good releases have been out lately, then I guess Epitaph has the lead - even if they are all reissues. You may have made a good case 5 or so years ago, but more of their new signings have been Orgcore than crabcore. If anything they're gravitating back toward the "Epitaph sound". drewvandal 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhook Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 I tried to listen to the Menzingers, made it through 2 songs. MikePortly 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
konk Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 Fat ruins bands that have been established, but the bands they break are really good. Epi doesn't break brands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebiglebowski Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 Fat ruins bands that have been established, but the bands they break are really good. Epi doesn't break brands. They put out the best records by Against Me! (Ok, maybe on par with RAR) and the Lawrence arms. I know it's looking a bit far back, but those are some huge records in this community. Epitaph did not do as well with the Lawrence Arms (that record is pretty good but no where near Fat material quality). Satan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parkinglot Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 Epitaph signs really, really shitty bands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drewvandal Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 Fat ruins bands that have been established, but the bands they break are really good. Epi doesn't break brands. I think Letlive and The Menzinger's for example have both grown significantly since signing with Epitaph. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
konk Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 Can't argue with TLA. I'm sure there are people that think the first two records are better though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satan Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 Personally, after 7 years of waiting for a Lawrence Arms record, if I was Epitaph, their new record (as is) would NOT have been released. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shelby Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 The new JM will be the first record I've bought from either label Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maskedvigilante Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 I think letlive. and The Menzinger's for example have both grown significantly since signing with Epitaph. This exactly. My favorite albums from the bands were released when they signed with epitaph. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
funtitled Posted May 20, 2014 Share Posted May 20, 2014 If fat reissues LTJ discography they would win all the awards from me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbfischer12 Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 Personally, after 7 years of waiting for a Lawrence Arms record, if I was Epitaph, their new record (as is) would NOT have been released. Do you like Chris or Brendan's side projects? If so, I don't get this statement at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebiglebowski Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 Do you like Chris or Brendan's side projects? If so, I don't get this statement at all. The new Sundowner record was just ok too, but all the other stuff I love. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbfischer12 Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 The new Sundowner record was just ok too, but all the other stuff I love. Interesting. I really liked Metropole with the exception of maybe two songs (Archeron River, Hickey Avenue). Edit: And this isn't coming from a newer fan of the band. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GradedOnACurve Posted May 24, 2014 Share Posted May 24, 2014 I really liked the new Sundowner record. I also really like that all three albums are different. It's also nice that he just didn't want to keep pumping out songs that sound like The Lawrence Arms on acoustic guitar. Also I'm kind of confused by this thread. Epitaph has put out some pretty good albums lately, yet have still released horrible albums. Fat has put out stuff that doesn't deviate too far from Orgcore material. Some are better than others. I don't try and simply compare these two labels because there are a bunch of labels still putting out awesome music. Focus on that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Delonge's UFO Posted May 24, 2014 Author Share Posted May 24, 2014 I really liked the new Sundowner record. I also really like that all three albums are different. It's also nice that he just didn't want to keep pumping out songs that sound like The Lawrence Arms on acoustic guitar. Also I'm kind of confused by this thread. Epitaph has put out some pretty good albums lately, yet have still released horrible albums. Fat has put out stuff that doesn't deviate too far from Orgcore material. Some are better than others. I don't try and simply compare these two labels because there are a bunch of labels still putting out awesome music. Focus on that. I agree completely that Fat hasn't really deviated and Epitaph has put out some complete shit. When I was in high school (in the late 90s) both Epitaph and Fat both churned out the best bands. Now, it seems that Epitaph will recognize when a band is on the verge of blowing up and catapult them to that next level. Fat seems to be subsisting just below that. Maybe, I'm off base, but that's where the comparison comes from in my view. MatthewTerbeek 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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