Ron Don Volante Posted February 18, 2017 Share Posted February 18, 2017 Just finished my first listen of this album. That was challenging and exhausting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatsNJazz Posted February 18, 2017 Share Posted February 18, 2017 Red House Painters> Mark Kozelek jact16 and docbronze 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youspinmeround Posted February 19, 2017 Share Posted February 19, 2017 I had a 3 hour drive last night so I put on Jesu/Sun Kil Moon on and listened to the whole thing. Musically it has some good points but again the lyrics are so hard to get over. Some decent parts, but overall just weak. I did enjoy the song about Nick Cave son and death though I have a copy of this on Rough Trade that I don't think I ever listened to. PM me if interested P.S. Does anyone like the part of Mark's cameo on the Minor Victories record. Totally could have done without that but at least the duet Rachel makes it worthwhile Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toomanyrecords Posted February 19, 2017 Share Posted February 19, 2017 I listened to the new SKM album last night (most of it) Yeah, it's rambly with stupid lyrics but I think it was more accessible and interesting than Universal Themes on first listen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radiatorhums Posted February 19, 2017 Share Posted February 19, 2017 30 minutes ago, youspinmeround said: P.S. Does anyone like the part of Mark's cameo on the Minor Victories record. Totally could have done without that but at least the duet Rachel makes it worthwhile I really like it, but it feels super out of place on the album. Disrupts the entire flow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warhenrecords Posted February 19, 2017 Share Posted February 19, 2017 Koz on that long troll game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youspinmeround Posted February 19, 2017 Share Posted February 19, 2017 1 hour ago, jonrawks said: I really like it, but it feels super out of place on the album. Disrupts the entire flow. The album is great and than he enters with his subpar crap and stupid storytelling. It's like he can no longer represent something without telling you his exact thoughts, where he was, what he did. RHP was so powerful in writing thought provoking songs docbronze 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filthyrich Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 Possibly controversial argument: Ghosts is better than any RHP release (even Roller Coaster and Ocean Beach).... But every SKM release after Ghosts is worse than any RHP release. And no I won't sell you my copy of Ghosts I bought for $12 back in the day. docbronze and Tommy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 9 minutes ago, filthyrich said: Possibly controversial argument: Ghosts is better than any RHP release (even Roller Coaster and Ocean Beach).... But every SKM release after Ghosts is worse than any RHP release. And no I won't sell you my copy of Ghosts I bought for $12 back in the day. Agree with this mostly, except I would say Ghosts and Old Ramon are on godly levels and everything else falls behind that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewOldStock Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 Well, currently about half way through. Some parts of it have actually caused me to laugh - a bit like a Not the Nine O'clock News recording. I mean, some small parts are quite nice musically but so much of it is just drivel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docbronze Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 20 hours ago, filthyrich said: Possibly controversial argument: Ghosts is better than any RHP release (even Roller Coaster and Ocean Beach).... But every SKM release after Ghosts is worse than any RHP release. And no I won't sell you my copy of Ghosts I bought for $12 back in the day. I completely agree with this post. I don't think there's a huge gap between Ghosts and Ramon, but Ghosts is the best thing MK has ever done. Full stop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fish Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 (edited) I love Ghosts but am I the only one who thinks that April was his high point? Edited February 21, 2017 by fish Eliminator Jr. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docbronze Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 39 minutes ago, fish said: I love Ghosts but am I the only one who thinks that April his high point? Probably not. There are a lot of people in the World. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DecayToDeath Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 I did my second sitting earlier today to finish off the album. Listening to disc 1 two days ago didn't really give me much motivation to do disc 2, but today I felt up for it. Man, I don't understand why this has to exist. There was one song I liked (Bastille Day). I can't wrap my head around this thing; it made me laugh sometimes, but never because that was Koz's intention. I like Benji and never bothered to listen to UT or the Jesu record, so I don't know where along the way exactly he lost me, but I'm not even sure it's worth finding out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mathyou99 Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 I listened to a song or two and I guess I'm an anomaly in that I don't hate it so far. Granted not much to base an opinion on but still.... I guess I was always a fan of his earlier (anything) works. Somewhere along the line, I guess I stopped following him so feverishly and failed to develop much of a taste, or opinion of his work these last few years. I did see him live in Dec and have to admit that I enjoyed the show much more than I would have anticipated. I actually wanted to listen to all his newer releases from front to back, that's how much I enjoyed the show. I haven't listened to enough of the new album to contribute anything of merit. So far don't love it or hate it but its much easier for me to give it a chance because he isn't gonna remake GOTGH or any other SKM album of past (obvious on first listen). I only wish he would label albums like these, under the proper moniker and that in my opinion is Mark Kozelek. My only complaint right now is that echoed by another poster, this isn't instrument based Sun Kil Moon. It's basically another musical diary from Mark, which is his right, and far be it for me to complain. However label it as such and don't raise our hopes of something more along the lines of traditional Sun Kil Moon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docbronze Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 13 minutes ago, Mathyou99 said: I only wish he would label albums like these, under the proper moniker and that in my opinion is Mark Kozelek. My only complaint right now is that echoed by another poster, this isn't instrument based Sun Kil Moon. It's basically another musical diary from Mark, which is his right, and far be it for me to complain. However label it as such and don't raise our hopes of something more along the lines of traditional Sun Kil Moon. But money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mathyou99 Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 3 minutes ago, docbronze said: But money. That was my thought too. I can mix market this to any and all fans of my material, regardless of if it sounds like what I've been doing on my own name for at least the past five years. docbronze 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timsimmons Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 Kinda done with this dude. I'll check out anything he recorded before Benji, but since Benji, I haven't enjoyed anything outside of a track or 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filthyrich Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 On 2/19/2017 at 8:18 PM, Tommy said: Agree with this mostly, except I would say Ghosts and Old Ramon are on godly levels and everything else falls behind that I really like Old Ramon... and actually saw him on that tour. (Was that the last time Kozelek played with a full band?) But I'd put Ocean Beach and Roller Coaster ahead of it, just for personal preference. It's probably tied for third with Blue Guitar. The amazing thing at the time was that Ghosts came out of nowhere. RHP was caught in label limbo... MK put out a couple solo EPs that were mostly AC/DC covers (with a couple John Denver covers for spice)... Sub Pop finally releases Old Ramon and RHP promptly break up after the tour... And then Mark randomly announces a new project, on a tiny label no less. For a guy who recorded for 4AD, Island, and Sub Pop, putting out an album on "Jetset Records" felt like a huge step backwards. And then we actually HEARD Ghosts... And damn, it was pretty much perfect. Couldn't wait for the follow-up. And then, Koz being Koz, he never remotely returned to the sound of that record again. docbronze 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mogambotek Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 12 hours ago, fish said: I love Ghosts but am I the only one who thinks that April was his high point? April is far and away his greatest release IMO, RHP included. Ghosts, while great, has too much filler. On April, every single song is essential and hits with force and beauty. The sequencing is also great, with Heron Blue offering a crucial pivoting point to the entire album. fish 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simple_torture Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 I'm looking to trade a black Admiral Fell Promises (sealed) and--maybe--a gold Third and Seneca (open, but only played a handful of times). Send me a PM if you're interested! I'm looking for (realistically): Tonight the Sky, Lost Verses Live, The Finally LP These are probably out of reach, I know, but, hey, if you're willing to talk: Ghosts, Tiny Cities, April, ATL, White Christmas/Little Drummer Boy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndieAtomic Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 (edited) The song mark did with holly throsby featured on her lastest album will be out on vinyl within the next couple of weeks. Edited March 7, 2017 by IndieAtomic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hookedonsonics Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 On 2/18/2017 at 3:53 PM, Ron Don Volante said: Just finished my first listen of this album. That was challenging and exhausting. this is basically essential the tl;dr review of this record....what a slog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DecayToDeath Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 1 hour ago, hookedonsonics said: this is basically essential the tl;dr review of this record....what a slog I'm shocked and confused at all the acclaim it seems to be getting outside VC hookedonsonics 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youspinmeround Posted March 8, 2017 Share Posted March 8, 2017 Meta critic score is 67. That is not even close to acclaimed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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