BenderOfStrings Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 and it sounds really good. However one thing that kind of surprised me is that the audio doesn't...I dont' know... "project" as much as it does when I listen to a CD or a digital file on the same set up. Don't get me wrong, it sounds great. I just noticed that I have to increase the volume more to get it on par with what I normally listen to CD's or digital files at lower volume levels. Is this just a symptom of listening to music that has been mixed too loudly for so long and I just have to get used to it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youspinmeround Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 Yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slinch Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 No, it's a result of there being way less uniformity when it comes to voltage output of the parts in the analog chain. Cartridges vary greatly in terms of how much "volume" you get out of them, and different phono pre-amps use very different levels of gain, meaning that you can end up with a combination that is as loud as a digital source or another that is only half as loud. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenderOfStrings Posted July 22, 2015 Author Share Posted July 22, 2015 No, it's a result of there being way less uniformity when it comes to voltage output of the parts in the analog chain. Cartridges vary greatly in terms of how much "volume" you get out of them, and different phono pre-amps use very different levels of gain, meaning that you can end up with a combination that is as loud as a digital source or another that is only half as loud. Well i'm using an Ortofon Red 2M cartridge with a Cambridge 651p pre-amp. Do those not pair up well with each other? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxsilence Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 Do you really need a new topic every time you have a new question to ask? Christ, just bump one of your other 30 with your question. dethrock 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenderOfStrings Posted July 22, 2015 Author Share Posted July 22, 2015 Do you really need a new topic every time you have a new question to ask? Christ, just bump one of your other 30 with your question. Do you really have to be such a pompous ass about it? Jesus, this place is unreal. I feel like I've stumbled into some exclusive country club where I don't belong and no one is interested in helping a newbie out other than trying make them feel like shit. Sorry I encroached upon and disturbed your little forum utopia here. I'll gladly find another online community to "irritate." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxsilence Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 I don't think you understand what pompous means, at all. The Butcha 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenderOfStrings Posted July 22, 2015 Author Share Posted July 22, 2015 I don't think you understand what pompous means, at all. Really? pomp·ous ˈpämpəs/ adjective adjective: pompous affectedly and irritatingly grand, solemn, or self-important. "a pompous ass who pretends he knows everything" synonyms: self-important, imperious, overbearing, domineering, magisterial, pontifical, sententious, grandiose, affected, pretentious, puffed up, arrogant, vain, haughty, proud, conceited, egotistic, supercilious, condescending, patronizing; More aflycon 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxsilence Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 Yeah, thanks for verifying my point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenderOfStrings Posted July 22, 2015 Author Share Posted July 22, 2015 Yeah, thanks for verifying my point. "conceited, arrogant, condescending." No I understand the meaning perfectly and I absolutely used it properly when referring to your post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxsilence Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 Condescending, sure. There's nothing arrogant or conceited about pointing out that you feel the need to create a new topic for every single question you have related to what amounts to your very first set up and could have 100% been localized to one topic that already exists (beginner's guide to hi-fi), or even just the first topic you created about picking a table. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenderOfStrings Posted July 22, 2015 Author Share Posted July 22, 2015 Condescending, sure. There's nothing arrogant or conceited about pointing out that you feel the need to create a new topic for every single question you have related to what amounts to your very first set up and could have 100% been localized to one topic that already exists (beginner's guide to hi-fi), or even just the first topic you created about picking a table. No one forced you to click into the thread did they? If it irritates you , why take the the time to click, read, and respond? And yes it is arrogant to treat someone like you are. Do you treat people like that when you're not protected by the anonymity of the internet? If so I imagine your medical bills must be piling up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxsilence Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 You need thicker skin. And no, I have great insurance, but thanks for the concern. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kidamnesiac Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 OP, you're not going to gain any friends by responding to help in a hostile manner like you have here. In fact, you're the one who seems pompous. You're new. You don't know how things work best around here. Say "sorry, thanks" and move on. It's called being polite. pushbacktosquare 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenderOfStrings Posted July 22, 2015 Author Share Posted July 22, 2015 OP, you're not going to gain any friends by responding to help in a hostile manner like you have here. In fact, you're the one who seems pompous. You're new. You don't know how things work best around here. Say "sorry, thanks" and move on. It's called being polite. The fact that you're defending xxsilence perfectly proves my point with the overall attitude with this place. OK, granted I COULD have said "sorry, thanks" but by that same token, veterans of this place could be a little friendlier and more accomodating to newbies. Since I've joined I have encountered one snot-nosed response after another, and all because I'm just trying to learn and get some questions asked. Yes I could refer to the bloated thread for beginners but that is pie in the sky expectation if you think anybody wants to swim through that many pages to try and find the answer to one question. Anyway, it's not worth arguing over any longer. Like I said, it's obvious that I don't fit in here. I'll gladly find a different forum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdtg Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 I don't know if you can adjust the gain but you could bump it up a little and see how that sounds. Looks like the 651p stock is 38dB but from the specs it looks like the 651 should pair fine with the Ortofon red Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dethrock Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 I feel like I've stumbled into some exclusive country club where I don't belong You pretty much hit the nail on the head. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tardcore Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 I think that basically every well-traveled online forum dislikes when somebody rolls in and opens up a bunch of unnecessary, redundant topics. It's like the butthole tourist chucking garbage all over the place while we all cry single Indian-tears. kidamnesiac 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raye Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 There's some great advice on this forum, and some really knowledgeable people who are willing to help out and give their own free time (and lots of it) in order to answer questions, which is priceless to newbies (yep, talking about myself here). But BenderofStrings has a point. It does feel like an inbred country club for the audio elite at times. So in that respect I have to back him up. The way to go is probably just to try and ignore it. Works for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajxd Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 I'm just here for the inbreeding. kidamnesiac 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allenh Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 I'm just here for the inbreeding. You've just described the British aristocracy and by extension some of my descendants there my good man. I shall see you on the field of honor in the morning. Muskets or pointy sword things? Muskets are my choice they make a lot less mess Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
just a normal guy kevin Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 Great tip for newbies...the first (and second and third and fourth and fifth) time someone responds to you like an asshole, have a sense of humor or ignore them. Eventually, the a-hole temptation goes away and the same people who jumped down your throat will start being fine, upstanding members to you and you can make a decent life for yourself here. kidamnesiac and solidusjerry91 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solidusjerry91 Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 The fact that you're defending xxsilence perfectly proves my point with the overall attitude with this place. OK, granted I COULD have said "sorry, thanks" but by that same token, veterans of this place could be a little friendlier and more accomodating to newbies. Since I've joined I have encountered one snot-nosed response after another, and all because I'm just trying to learn and get some questions asked. Yes I could refer to the bloated thread for beginners but that is pie in the sky expectation if you think anybody wants to swim through that many pages to try and find the answer to one question. Anyway, it's not worth arguing over any longer. Like I said, it's obvious that I don't fit in here. I'll gladly find a different forum. "snot-nosed response" hahaha... welcome to VC... i got alot of those too when i first started... still do every once in a while... but dude... stay... there are some awesome people here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solidusjerry91 Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 Great tip for newbies...the first (and second and third and fourth and fifth) time someone responds to you like an asshole, have a sense of humor or ignore them. Eventually, the a-hole temptation goes away and the same people who jumped down your throat will start being fine, upstanding members to you and you can make a decent life for yourself here. I've seen this happen before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raye Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 I've seen this happen before. Yeah, on Wayward Pines. ksuwdboots 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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