toomanyrecords Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 real honest question for kess: why does he wear the same shirt in every vid of his? Just a joke between Sandy and I that turned into a reality. The shirt has changed once though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eliminator Jr. Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 Is it flipping to auction off a record at a 1$ starting price and letting the mob decide on how much it goes for? jameshays and themightychew 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freedumb Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 Is it flipping to auction off a record at a 1$ starting price and letting the mob decide on how much it goes for? Yes, if you bought it just to do that. But who cares? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freedumb Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 Just a joke between Sandy and I that turned into a reality. The shirt has changed once though Damnit Sandy, please get Kess another shirt! tvham 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhook Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 I have paid off my mortgage by flipping Brand New records. WAXXX and Billich0986 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eliminator Jr. Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 Yes, if you bought it just to do that. But who cares? This thread gained 100+ comments in less than 24h. People care. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freedumb Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 This thread gained 100+ comments in less than 24h. People care.It is a discussion board about vinyl and this is a scintillating yet often "skirted" topic.And it was more a rhetorical "who cares about what someone decides to do with THEIR record?" with undertones of nobody should give a fuck (except whiny babies, of course). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le Gogh Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 I can honestly say I've never flipped anything, but likewise I've never bought anything from a flipper. BUT, I do think that ultimately if you've bought something a number of years/decades ago that has increased in value, and you decide to part ways with it for a profit, that's your choice. This is just part of life, would you buy a house and then sell it 10 years later for the same price you paid?? I think it would be wrong to say "all flippers are scum of the earth", because they're not. The ones that are are those that buy purely to sell on. They buy up limited runs and stick them on ebay minutes later. Those are the ones I have a problem with because they're taking products away from those that could genuinely buy them. Have a lot of respect for those that buy to help others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WAXXX Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 i think the best comparison to record flippers are people who scalp tickets (concerts, events, sports games, etc...) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackholexxxx Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 Why aren't we mad at the labels for not pressing enough records? The labels are creating the problem. edit: Downvotes, but no discussion. Good on you VC. slushy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apirk Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 I always love these threads turn into "these type of flippers suck" but "these people who sell stuff for lots of money are ok," aka the what I do is ok but what others do that prevent me from getting something I want is shitty. I think the people who buy records they think are going to be valuable and keep them sealed nicely sitting on a shelf are just as bad as the person who buys it and puts it right up in ebay. Really what is the point of keeping a record sealed other to maintain value to sell later or to keep as a trophy. At least with a short term flipper someone might buy it to actually listen to it and enjoy it. nickelnine59 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chriswamsley Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 Why aren't we mad at the labels for not pressing enough records? The labels are creating the problem.are you trying to give them the capitol involved in pressing exuberant numbers of records? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fowty Dollaz Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 I have paid off my mortgage by flipping Brand New records. i think the best comparison to record flippers are people who scalp tickets (concerts, events, sports games, etc...) I'm selling two tickets to the Brand New show at Ommegang on 8/16. Trying to pay that mortgage. (except I'm selling them for less than I paid) *wrecklessadvertisement* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GalacticMelt Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 #FlpprVibes Fowty Dollaz 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fowty Dollaz Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 #FlpprVibes PRINCE and DecayToDeath 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
futures Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 I always love these threads turn into "these type of flippers suck" but "these people who sell stuff for lots of money are ok," aka the what I do is ok but what others do that prevent me from getting something I want is shitty. I think the people who buy records they think are going to be valuable and keep them sealed nicely sitting on a shelf are just as bad as the person who buys it and puts it right up in ebay. Really what is the point of keeping a record sealed other to maintain value to sell later or to keep as a trophy. At least with a short term flipper someone might buy it to actually listen to it and enjoy it. I think you misunderstood. It was stated that buying a record for listening purposes then selling it down the line is OK. Not buying and keeping sealed ... that's still buying with intent to flip bc of value. tvham 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackholexxxx Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 are you trying to give them the capitol involved in pressing exuberant numbers of records? Represses are possible. Look at what Mondo just did. They sold out in a few hours and then put more up for preorder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toomanyrecords Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 I think you misundestood. It was stated that buying a record for listening purposes then selling it down the line is OK. Not buying and keeping sealed ... that's still buying with intent to flip bc of value. Ooh, ooh, I got it. What about record collectors who just collect records for art pieces/to have a physical representation of their music taste? Just because they don't spin their records, do you think you are more justified as a music lover? If they hold onto it and find happiness looking at a sealed record, and that record appreciates in value, is it truly any different than what other people do? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
futures Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 Ooh, ooh, I got it. What about record collectors who just collect records for art pieces/to have a physical representation of their music taste? Just because they don't spin their records, do you think you are more justified as a music lover? If they hold onto it and find happiness looking at a sealed record, and that record appreciates in value, is it truly any different than what other people do? good lord. the INTENT is where it differs. if I buy a record bc I really like it and I listen to it alot, but then 5, 6, 7 years from now I'm not really into it and sell it, it's acceptable to do so. bc the INTENT was to listen to it and enjoy it for personal purposes. not to sell it for a profit. do you absorb nothing? addi 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fowty Dollaz Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 do you absorb nothing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackholexxxx Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 I like having my own personal home music store that is always stocked with only the music I like. Therefore I have hundreds of sealed albums. I am not afraid to go over to my shelves and open up a sealed record to play, but because of the size of my collection there is a good possibility that some records may never get listened to. At some point I will be thinning out the collection and I intend to make a profit from it. I am not sure what label applies to me. WAXXX 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fowty Dollaz Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 I am not sure what label applies to me. 'Lijah 'Lijah Wood Y'all! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toomanyrecords Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 good lord. the INTENT is where it differs. if I buy a record bc I really like it and I listen to it alot, but then 5, 6, 7 years from now I'm not really into it and sell it, it's acceptable to do so. bc the INTENT was to listen to it and enjoy it for personal purposes. not to sell it for a profit. do you absorb nothing? You literally said "Not buying and keeping sealed ... that's still buying with intent to flip bc of value." You never showed *your* grasp of people having different intentions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toomanyrecords Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 What this topic comes down to is people who have an understanding of how the world works vs manchildren (and real children, likely) plugging their ears and whining "PEOPLE SHOULD DO WITH THEIR OWN PROPERTY WHAT I THINK IS FAIR" saxonviolons and kurtz 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apirk Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 I think you misunderstood. It was stated that buying a record for listening purposes then selling it down the line is OK. Not buying and keeping sealed ... that's still buying with intent to flip bc of value. No I understood but what I posted wasn't a reply to what you posted just a general observation of record collectors and people who complain about flipping. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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