AlexH. Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 52 minutes ago, WAXXX said: homegirl's character does matter. it's her word against his, and she happens to be an extremely dubious and downright horrible person. her character is so bad that she wouldn't even be a reputable character witness in a court of law. hillary is the one who stooped so low as to even bring this person into a presidential debate. SAD! regardless, all of this is a non-issue. trump won't be losing votes over this. he actually gained support from undecideds and millennials since the debates. at the end of the day, trump is the people's candidate and i still think he's going to win the election in a landslide. I mean, you can't just say someone is a bad person and have it be true. Unless you feel posing nude reflects poorly on one's character, in which case: oh, honey... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WAXXX Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 Just now, AlexH. said: I mean, you can't just say someone is a bad person and have it be true. Unless you feel posing nude reflects poorly on one's character, in which case: oh, honey... do you not know about alicia machado? yes she posed for playboy, but she was also a murder accomplice who drove the getaway vehicle from a murder in venezuela. she threatened a judge's life shortly afterwards with her drug lord boyfriend who she was screwing. she then had a child with him and the cartel attended the kid's christening. she screwed a dude publicly on a reality tv show while she was engaged to someone else and her anal porn is viewable on the internet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boops_popmarket Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 If you really think about it... ...and I mean genuinely give it some thought... ...like, 'open your mind' kind of thought... ...aren't blacks the real racists? where are the emails thank you ~ rds AlexH., Bladewillisisdead and Tommy 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bladewillisisdead Posted October 1, 2016 Share Posted October 1, 2016 4 hours ago, WAXXX said: it's this type of garbage drivel nonsense that is depressing. the fact that you openly detest people with differing opinions is the definition of bigotry. go vote for an anti-capitalist commie if you want, it's your right. however, it's your intolerance that is worrying. we can't just ban everything that you don't like. grow the fuck up. Trump is a manifestation of everything wrong with this country. He's not an opposing viewpoint, he's dangerous sociopathic scum. I would have said this before he was running for President. I'd be saying that if he was running as a democrat. museummouth 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daegor Posted October 1, 2016 Share Posted October 1, 2016 15 minutes ago, Bladewillisisdead said: Trump is a manifestation of everything wrong with this country. He's not an opposing viewpoint, he's dangerous sociopathic scum. I would have said this before he was running for President. I'd be saying that if he was running as a democrat. Agreed, but honestly, so is Hillary. Y'all are FUCKED. (which means Canada is too, dammit) Shitty Rambo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WAXXX Posted October 1, 2016 Share Posted October 1, 2016 14 hours ago, Bladewillisisdead said: Trump is a manifestation of everything wrong with this country. He's not an opposing viewpoint, he's dangerous sociopathic scum. I would have said this before he was running for President. I'd be saying that if he was running as a democrat. the office of president attracts psychopaths and narcissists. this is to be expected in high power positions within the government, law, business, etc... we the people need to ensure that these positions work to serve our best interests, because left to their own devices, they would work solely to benefit themselves. that being said, i would rather live in trump's less taxed, less regulated, and less censored america than hillary's higher taxed, more regulated, and more censored america. i prefer that way of life so much more that i am willing to put my life on the line and fight for it. i understand that you and maybe around 50% of the country feel the opposite, and that's your right. maybe it's time to simply split the country in half and let each of us live with those who share our common interests. i would rather be unequally rewarded in a free system, than equally miserable in a system of total government control. Tommy and Shitty Rambo 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shitty Rambo Posted October 1, 2016 Share Posted October 1, 2016 The relentless cattiness in this thread makes so much sense now... http://www.nbcnews.com/video/doctor-links-low-t-to-men-who-vote-for-clinton-776496707663 WAXXX 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WAXXX Posted October 1, 2016 Share Posted October 1, 2016 6 minutes ago, Shitty Rambo said: The relentless cattiness in this thread makes so much sense now... http://www.nbcnews.com/video/doctor-links-low-t-to-men-who-vote-for-clinton-776496707663 Shitty Rambo and Tommy 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexH. Posted October 1, 2016 Share Posted October 1, 2016 20 hours ago, WAXXX said: do you not know about alicia machado? yes she posed for playboy, but she was also a murder accomplice who drove the getaway vehicle from a murder in venezuela. she threatened a judge's life shortly afterwards with her drug lord boyfriend who she was screwing. she then had a child with him and the cartel attended the kid's christening. she screwed a dude publicly on a reality tv show while she was engaged to someone else and her anal porn is viewable on the internet. Again, if infidelity is an indicator of bad character, then buddy... Also couldn't find any evidence of a sextape (the existence of which shouldn't really have any bearing on one's character, as I don't personally find anything immoral about filming yourself having sex or doing it in the butt), but Snopes did a thing about it (although I know Snopes is a disgusting failing site that does nasty research and uses unfair facts). The murder accomplice thing is certainly something. It sounds like an intensely personal situation she found herself involved with (from Politifact, sources cited are behind paywalls): Quote Machado’s boyfriend, Juan Rodriguez, shot and wounded his brother-in-law, Francisco Sbert, at a memorial service for Sbert’s wife in Venezuela in November 1997. Rodriguez accused Sbert of driving his sister to suicide, and attempted to kidnap his 11-year-old nephew. According to news reports at the time, witnesses said Machado drove Rodriguez away from the scene. If you're going to use the Trump yardstick, she's innocent, as all charges were dropped, and no charges were even filed about threatening the judge. Overall, I'd trust her character enough to believe her when she says a serial misogynist and racist was misogynistic and racist toward her. 31 minutes ago, Shitty Rambo said: The relentless cattiness in this thread makes so much sense now... http://www.nbcnews.com/video/doctor-links-low-t-to-men-who-vote-for-clinton-776496707663 I do believe this is an example of what the kids are calling "fragile masculinity" stl_ben 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bladewillisisdead Posted October 1, 2016 Share Posted October 1, 2016 45 minutes ago, Shitty Rambo said: The relentless cattiness in this thread makes so much sense now... http://www.nbcnews.com/video/doctor-links-low-t-to-men-who-vote-for-clinton-776496707663 High testosterone leads to male baldness. Fuck that shit. But yeah, Trump supporters would need to fall back on regressive sexist bullshit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WAXXX Posted October 1, 2016 Share Posted October 1, 2016 (edited) 22 minutes ago, AlexH. said: Overall, I'd trust her character enough to believe her i wouldn't. she basically admitted threatening the judge and driving the getaway car for her drug lord boyfriend on cnn. it's hilarious that she dismisses the whole thing as unimportant because it happened 20 years ago. yet, trump's alleged comments would have happened even before that. she's nothing more than a candidate-trashing tactic deployed by the hillary campaign. Edited October 1, 2016 by WAXXX Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WAXXX Posted October 1, 2016 Share Posted October 1, 2016 23 minutes ago, Bladewillisisdead said: Trump supporters would need to fall back on regressive sexist bullshit. generalizing a whole group people... that's so open-minded and progressive of you. Tommy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bladewillisisdead Posted October 1, 2016 Share Posted October 1, 2016 Yes, I generalized a group of people who made and supported an ad as being the type of people who would make that ad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TFP Posted October 1, 2016 Share Posted October 1, 2016 18 hours ago, Bladewillisisdead said: Trump is a manifestation of everything wrong with this country. He's not an opposing viewpoint, he's dangerous sociopathic scum. I would have said this before he was running for President. I'd be saying that if he was running as a democrat. What's the bet that you would preach hyperbole like "this candidate is Hitler" if it were any Republican, not just Trump? Hillary has definitely done evil things but you refuse to call a spade a spade. No, it's just dem evil Republicans. Tommy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGhostOfRandySavage Posted October 1, 2016 Share Posted October 1, 2016 17 minutes ago, Bladewillisisdead said: Yes, I generalized a group of people who made and supported an ad as being the type of people who would make that ad. You actually generalized an even larger group of people based on the actions of a small portion of that group... You're by by definition a bigot, dude. Bigotry - noun - intolerance toward those who hold different opinions from oneself. WAXXX 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boops_popmarket Posted October 1, 2016 Share Posted October 1, 2016 (edited) Real Bigotry - noun - intolerance toward those who are intolerant of those who hold different opinions from themselves. where are the emails thank you ~ rds Edited October 1, 2016 by rds WAXXX 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGhostOfRandySavage Posted October 1, 2016 Share Posted October 1, 2016 32 minutes ago, rds said: Real Bigotry - noun - intolerance toward those who are intolerant of those who hold different opinions from themselves. where are the emails thank you ~ rds I know you're just trying to be funny, but be fair. I never said he couldn't or shouldn't be a bigot, just that he was one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bladewillisisdead Posted October 1, 2016 Share Posted October 1, 2016 I can sleep pretty soundly being bigoted against racism, misogony, and fascism. stl_ben 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGhostOfRandySavage Posted October 2, 2016 Share Posted October 2, 2016 4 hours ago, Bladewillisisdead said: I can sleep pretty soundly being bigoted against racism, misogony, and fascism. Don't forget capitalism, anyone who shares a different view on religion from you, or even anyone who thinks socialism won't work. WAXXX 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bladewillisisdead Posted October 2, 2016 Share Posted October 2, 2016 1 minute ago, The Ghost of Randy Savage said: Don't forget capitalism, anyone who shares a different view on religion from you, or even anyone who thinks socialism won't work. Well the capitalism and socialism things count as one (to be fair I don't think pure capitalism OR socialism can ever work) and religion falls under misogyny/fascism. So yeah. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bladewillisisdead Posted October 2, 2016 Share Posted October 2, 2016 Trump tax leak reminder: You pay as much as you do in taxes so that people like Trump don't have to stl_ben and daegor 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGhostOfRandySavage Posted October 2, 2016 Share Posted October 2, 2016 35 minutes ago, Bladewillisisdead said: Well the capitalism and socialism things count as one (to be fair I don't think pure capitalism OR socialism can ever work) and religion falls under misogyny/fascism. So yeah. It's claims like this that bother me so much. Yeah, organized religion can be pretty terrible. but not everyone who is involved with it is a fascist, or even a bad person. 35 minutes ago, Bladewillisisdead said: Well the capitalism and socialism things count as one (to be fair I don't think pure capitalism OR socialism can ever work) and religion falls under misogyny/fascism. So yeah. It's claims like this that bother me so much. Yeah, organized religion can be pretty terrible. but not everyone who is involved with it is a fascist, or even a bad person. WAXXX 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bladewillisisdead Posted October 2, 2016 Share Posted October 2, 2016 15 minutes ago, The Ghost of Randy Savage said: It's claims like this that bother me so much. Yeah, organized religion can be pretty terrible. but not everyone who is involved with it is a fascist, or even a bad person. It's claims like this that bother me so much. Yeah, organized religion can be pretty terrible. but not everyone who is involved with it is a fascist, or even a bad person. Here's the thing...I know and agree with that. But the bad is overwhelming. The bad is what influences the masses and in turn can affect government. If every Christian was like "We need to help each other out. We need to help provide for the sick and the poor. Corporations and banks are evil and not out for the greater good" that would be dope. That's not the way it is. The "church" has been corrupted as a whole for centuries. The right has been exploiting the "Christain conservative base" for as long as I've been aware of the world. I disagree with all organized religions on a very fundamental level, but I support people's right to their religious faith. It's just that faith has been exploited and the church should have zero influence on anything outside of the literal church. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGhostOfRandySavage Posted October 2, 2016 Share Posted October 2, 2016 2 minutes ago, Bladewillisisdead said: Here's the thing...I know and agree with that. But the bad is overwhelming. The bad is what influences the masses and in turn can affect government. If every Christian was like "We need to help each other out. We need to help provide for the sick and the poor. Corporations and banks are evil and not out for the greater good" that would be dope. That's not the way it is. The "church" has been corrupted as a whole for centuries. The right has been exploiting the "Christain conservative base" for as long as I've been aware of the world. I disagree with all organized religions on a very fundamental level, but I support people's right to their religious faith. It's just that faith has been exploited and the church should have zero influence on anything outside of the literal church. There are some overwhelming bad parts to organized religion. You generalize everything to a point that is ridiculous though. If you didn't hyperbolize every little thing you say, I, at least wouldn't take as much issue with so much of it. I know you're not a bad dude, you're nice and caring for the most part, but some of the shit you spray frustrates me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bladewillisisdead Posted October 2, 2016 Share Posted October 2, 2016 2 minutes ago, The Ghost of Randy Savage said: There are some overwhelming bad parts to organized religion. You generalize everything to a point that is ridiculous though. If you didn't hyperbolize every little thing you say, I, at least wouldn't take as much issue with so much of it. I know you're not a bad dude, you're nice and caring for the most part, but some of the shit you spray frustrates me. Saying "some cops are bastards" or "some people have bastardized Christianity for personal gain or as a means of legitimizing their bigotries" doesn't have the same punch to it though. Institutionalized bullshit brings out, and for the most part requires, an extreme reaction. 2 minutes ago, The Ghost of Randy Savage said: There are some overwhelming bad parts to organized religion. You generalize everything to a point that is ridiculous though. If you didn't hyperbolize every little thing you say, I, at least wouldn't take as much issue with so much of it. I know you're not a bad dude, you're nice and caring for the most part, but some of the shit you spray frustrates me. Saying "some cops are bastards" or "some people have bastardized Christianity for personal gain or as a means of legitimizing their bigotries" doesn't have the same punch to it though. Institutionalized bullshit brings out, and for the most part requires, an extreme reaction. The forum software is behaving wonderfully Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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