beta114 Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 I don't listen to BN because I'm a fan boy of their front man. I crank these tracks constantly because the music is incredibly groundbreaking, artistic & emotional. Jesse Lacey was never a part of my life. But the music was - and it will always be nostalgic and have meaning. Channel your anger into something in the world that matters a just a HAIR more than this. Like war and famine. Racism and equality. That would be a good start for those of you who think you know every detail of what happened and are making absurd claims like you were there and can accurately judge both sides. Oh and by the way... the porn that most of you crank to on the computer screen consist of under-18 girls who were coerced as well. You just don't know it because they don't tell you. So don't act like you're so high and mighty. You just don't have to tell the world you do it because you're not famous and no one cares about you. If his wife can forgive him (who is arguably the of the two most hurt people involved), then I think you can too. Get off your high horses and let all parties heal. If you had to promote your heinous sins to the world you would crumble like dirt. Be happy you're not famous and worry about your own sins before you judge others for theirs. No one here is a saint. tape, bluescreenlife, OneThreeOneTwo and 5 others 1 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DecayToDeath Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 4 minutes ago, beta114 said: Oh and by the way... the porn that most of you crank to on the computer screen consist of under-18 girls who were coerced as well. You just don't know it because they don't tell you. So don't act like you're so high and mighty. Jesse knew they were underage and actually was the one taking advantage in that situation, pretty big difference there... 5 minutes ago, beta114 said: you're not famous and no one cares about you. I sense some pent-up anger in this one beta114 and tape 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twatay Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 10 minutes ago, beta114 said: Oh and by the way... the porn that most of you crank to on the computer screen consist of under-18 girls who were coerced as well. You just don't know it because they don't tell you. So don't act like you're so high and mighty. Speak for yourself, creepoid. copelandkid, tape, beta114 and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingTacoMunster Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 13 minutes ago, beta114 said: I don't listen to BN because I'm a fan boy of their front man. I crank these tracks constantly because the music is incredibly groundbreaking, artistic & emotional. Jesse Lacey was never a part of my life. But the music was - and it will always be nostalgic and have meaning. Channel your anger into something in the world that matters a just a HAIR more than this. Like war and famine. Racism and equality. That would be a good start for those of you who think you know every detail of what happened and are making absurd claims like you were there and can accurately judge both sides. Oh and by the way... the porn that most of you crank to on the computer screen consist of under-18 girls who were coerced as well. You just don't know it because they don't tell you. So don't act like you're so high and mighty. You just don't have to tell the world you do it because you're not famous and no one cares about you. If his wife can forgive him (who is arguably the of the two most hurt people involved), then I think you can too. Get off your high horses and let all parties heal. If you had to promote your heinous sins to the world you would crumble like dirt. Be happy you're not famous and worry about your own sins before you judge others for theirs. No one here is a saint. come on @Shitty Rambo if this post doesn't constitute locking it up, then I have no idea what does. obviously nothing... Kanellos and beta114 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oblivions Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 Just now, KingTacoMunster said: come on @Shitty Rambo if this post doesn't constitute locking it up, then I have no idea what does. obviously nothing... If they are being sincere, they sure have an 'interesting' perspective of the world. My instincts tell me that it's likely a smoothie of trolling and lashing out though. Either way, it's a bummer that, of all the words and ideas someone can share on this particular subject, those are the ones they decided to go with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skacel Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 6 minutes ago, twatay said: Speak for yourself, creepoid. Exactly. BBW MILFs or GTFO. Kanellos, The Butcha, jonnywreck and 4 others 4 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
conedust Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 1 hour ago, deafening said: Here, in the everyday real world, when most people hear pedophile, they think something akin to mustachio creep-show sitting outside of an elementary school playground, not a guy in his twenties sexting with a girl in her mid-late teens. Yeah, I dunno. To me, Judge Roy Moore is a disgusting pedo creep. He never pursued "prepubescent children", but he obviously had a thing for little girls. He fondled a 14-year-old and creeped hard enough on her peers to get banned from the local mall. I'm perfectly comfortable calling him a pedophile. Whether or not my usage is technically accurate, the sick fuck deserves that label and all the opprobrium that comes with it. I'm tempted to say the same of Jesse. If the stories we're hearing are true, he specifically targeted starstruck girls in their mid-teens. He didn't just happen to hit on someone who looked "mature for her years" that one time. He had specific tastes and he (apparently) made an intentional pattern of pursuing them. I've got no problem hauling out the P-word for that kind of thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingTacoMunster Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 13 minutes ago, KingTacoMunster said: come on @Shitty Rambo if this post doesn't constitute locking it up, then I have no idea what does. obviously nothing... I appreciate you trying get different perspectives @Shitty Rambo but shout out to the trolls for making it a stinker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
conedust Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 26 minutes ago, beta114 said: If his wife can forgive him (who is arguably the of the two most hurt people involved), then I think you can too. Lol, I'm inclined to put the 4 (or is it 5?) girls he sleazed on (that we know about) at the top of the list. And then probably their parents. And then, maybe, Jesse's wife, who's got way more reason to forgive than anyone here. Sure, everyone's guilty of something. Doesn't mean we shouldn't speak unkindly of those who get caught with their hand in the little girl jar. copelandkid, beta114 and AlexH. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Banned User] Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 The band has officially canceled the deluxe pressings of this album. Kanellos, fugazi, Skacel and 4 others 2 3 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bladewillisisdead Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 (edited) Rehabilitation and all of that is important. So is suffering consequences for being a heinous piece of shit. Yeah, he's still human...but "feeling bad" is not enough. His "sex addiction" crap is bullshit because he still manipulated and preyed upon 15 year olds. He's trying to garner sympathy for himself when he deserves none. You can have a sex addiction, even a crippling life ruining one, without being a predator. He definitely shouldn't continue having a career that gives him access to underage girls. Brand New 2000-2017. They were close. Edited November 14, 2017 by Bladewillisisdead conedust 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanellos Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 Just now, Bladewillisisdead said: Brand New 2000-21017. They were close. Satan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daiei Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 54 minutes ago, beta114 said: I don't listen to BN because I'm a fan boy of their front man. I crank these tracks constantly because the music is incredibly groundbreaking, artistic & emotional. Jesse Lacey was never a part of my life. But the music was - and it will always be nostalgic and have meaning. Post should have ended here. Fuck Jesse Lacey, will continue to listen to Brand New. THE_James_Champ and beta114 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bladewillisisdead Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 1 minute ago, Kanellos said: Typing is hard. I apologize to everyone who has suffered from my poor typing skills and lack of proofreading. My girlfriend has suffered my typos and autocorrect word salad for years and has stuck with me, even in the worst of times. I suffer from a need to type fast and my ADD makes it difficult for me to pay attention to the results. I've hurt a lot of people, but when you really think about it...Im the victim here. Pray for me and my recovery. conedust, Kanellos, AlexH. and 2 others 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tape Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 #prayforbladewillisisdead OneThreeOneTwo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonnywreck Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 41 minutes ago, conedust said: I've got no problem hauling out the P-word for that kind of thing. Might wanna ask before you pull it out. deafening 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek™ Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 1 minute ago, jonnywreck said: Might wanna ask before you pull it out. Why bother? We’ll all politely refuse but he’ll do it anyway. jonnywreck, deafening and cantdance 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SunsetDramaKing17 Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 33 minutes ago, [Banned User] said: The band has officially canceled the deluxe pressings of this album. Is this truth? davepriz 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rooks Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 11 minutes ago, SunsetDramaKing17 said: Is this truth? Yeah but if you send an envelope with $1 in it to the address in the email they'll send you some lyrics in 10 years. Also no refunds tape and [Banned User] 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shelby Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 1 hour ago, beta114 said: I don't listen to BN because I'm a fan boy of their front man. I crank these tracks constantly because the music is incredibly groundbreaking, artistic & emotional. Jesse Lacey was never a part of my life. But the music was - and it will always be nostalgic and have meaning. Channel your anger into something in the world that matters a just a HAIR more than this. Like war and famine. Racism and equality. That would be a good start for those of you who think you know every detail of what happened and are making absurd claims like you were there and can accurately judge both sides. Oh and by the way... the porn that most of you crank to on the computer screen consist of under-18 girls who were coerced as well. You just don't know it because they don't tell you. So don't act like you're so high and mighty. You just don't have to tell the world you do it because you're not famous and no one cares about you. If his wife can forgive him (who is arguably the of the two most hurt people involved), then I think you can too. Get off your high horses and let all parties heal. If you had to promote your heinous sins to the world you would crumble like dirt. Be happy you're not famous and worry about your own sins before you judge others for theirs. No one here is a saint. Please kill yourself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fowty Dollaz Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 2 minutes ago, Sunshine said: Please kill yourself. While I'm on your "side" of the argument, please find a different way to tell him to fuck off. You'd probably never know, but what if this dude was already kind of suicidal and you planted that seed? I'm not mad or telling you, just kinda asking nicely, as a person who becomes depressive and a person who's lost a few to suicide. stl_ben 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonnywreck Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 9 minutes ago, Sunshine said: Please kill yourself. This. This is what I'm talking about. GTFO of here with that. Jesus fuckin' Christ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shelby Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 Nah just gotta give you all a common thing to pretend to be mad about. Bleach is great if you're looking for recommendations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toomanyrecords Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 Just now, Sunshine said: Nah just gotta give you all a common thing to pretend to be mad about. Bleach is great if you're looking for recommendations. can we ban this dude already stl_ben 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shelby Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 Just now, Kanye West said: can we ban this dude already Hell yeah save the Brand New thread keep it clean. tape 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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