swallowtales Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 I managed to get both from the main Merchnow site right after release, pretty excited. Just got to hope they get here safely now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sjchecchia Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 Was one of the lucky early drop-ers and snagged both records and a shirt at 11am. Very stoked for these. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
throwgncpr Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 Just got shipping notification from MerchNow. Excited to get these! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INRIhab Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 These literally went on sale 9 days ago and my Holy Mountain variants made it to Canada and in my hands already. I'm impressed and also in disbelief at how fast they came! Sjchecchia 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
throwgncpr Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 Got mine yesterday. They look great. Can't wait to spin them! INRIhab 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rottengoth Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 Anybody know what’s up with All Else Failed and Early Recordings? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
throwgncpr Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 looks like they're coming soon: Sjchecchia and INRIhab 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INRIhab Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 So there's issues with copies of WBAFBR and the song "March". Does anybody have issues with their copies? Mine sounds fine. But the band addressed the issues as being widespread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirkrondo Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 1 hour ago, INRIhab said: So there's issues with copies of WBAFBR and the song "March". Does anybody have issues with their copies? Mine sounds fine. But the band addressed the issues as being widespread. thanks for mentioning this as i had no idea it was widespread. I thought it might of just been dirty and needed a nice bath. my copy definitely has the issue so i guess I'll film it and send it to em I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INRIhab Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 1 hour ago, dirkrondo said: thanks for mentioning this as i had no idea it was widespread. I thought it might of just been dirty and needed a nice bath. my copy definitely has the issue so i guess I'll film it and send it to em I guess. Well hopefully the issue isint too widespread. I guess we'll see as copies start arriving in people's hands in the following weeks and the parties involved can offer up a solution to the ones with affected copies. It's just unfortunate, especially it being such a pivotal album. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
throwgncpr Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 Super relieved that my copy doesn't have the problem. I posted a couple pics of my copy on IG: Also, I got shipping notification last night from Steadfast for All Else Failed and Early Recordings Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ethereal Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 apparently the issue is only on the clear w/ orange/blue variant. anyone know who we send the vids to and/or where they posted the response? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
throwgncpr Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 28 minutes ago, ethereal said: apparently the issue is only on the clear w/ orange/blue variant. anyone know who we send the vids to and/or where they posted the response? It's being reported on the orange variant as well (see FB thread below). Jeff said this regarding reporting the issue: " take a video of it and send it to [email protected]" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gretz Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 it appears to be "player based" I was actually one of the people it was affecting. In fact, i gave two copies (an orange and a clear) to Dan Weyandt that were doing it to me, they do not do it for him. The tests showed nothing (i was not one of the test pressing approvers) and the people that approved the tests have no issues still on production copies. I can now play them (i tried 10 different copies in various colors) after adjusting my antiskate, and swapping out needles. Basically we are dealing with a "borderline" issue at the cutting phase that, while there is nothing inherently wrong with the press, it IS a master that is going to cause problems with certain setups (based on the issues i am seeing really GREAT turntables are having it as well as cheap ones). if united pressed more, the same issue would be there, if we exchanged copies currently for people, the issue would still be there. basically if we do a repress we will have it recut from scratch. throwgncpr and daegor 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
throwgncpr Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 Thanks for clarifying Jeff. I wondered about that. Not sure if this is a win or a loss. Hopefully folks aren't having to overcompensate with tracking adjustments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gretz Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 4 minutes ago, throwgncpr said: Thanks for clarifying Jeff. I wondered about that. Not sure if this is a win or a loss. Hopefully folks aren't having to overcompensate with tracking adjustments. it's a tough call. if it was IN the vinyl, as in. a problem for everyone across the board, getting united to turn the press back on to make replacements would be a different story. The fact that the same record plays different ways on 2 different players falls under "this cut was on the borderline of playing on every player". If we recut it quieter (which is probably the solution) it would be late 2021 before we had them in hand - based on what we have been told of backups. then, we HAVE to get the originals back from people. not sure what the solution is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
throwgncpr Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 Out of curiosity, how much did you have to adjust your anti-skate? If pretty minor, that seems reasonable to make that recommendation and move on. If pretty drastic, that's another story. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gretz Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 3 minutes ago, throwgncpr said: Out of curiosity, how much did you have to adjust your anti-skate? If pretty minor, that seems reasonable to make that recommendation and move on. If pretty drastic, that's another story. drastically with the first needle, like 2.5 grams. when i saw the antiskate fixed it i swapped needles and set everything back again, then it was like a .5 adjustment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
throwgncpr Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 yikes, 2.5 is kind of nuts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gretz Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 1 minute ago, throwgncpr said: yikes, 2.5 is kind of nuts. agree. keeping in mind. the 2.5 needle is BRAND new. i just happened to change it recently. the one i put back on i would not call worn out, but i would say was at the very least broken in. .5 is more in the realm of reality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gretz Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 i now have a "better put THIS needle on" needle to check test presses pizza face 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
throwgncpr Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 7 minutes ago, gretz said: i now have a "better put THIS needle on" needle to check test presses and don't let Dan be the only guy checking tests! Mr. Reliable Turtable... I have a middle of the road (Thorens) table with a similarly broken in stylus. Maybe its a Goldilocks set up for touchy records Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ethereal Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 7 minutes ago, gretz said: i now have a "better put THIS needle on" needle to check test presses thanks for all the transparency and info - as someone that has experience with plants and issues within production runs, this seems like United has the liability in QA to make sure the issue doesn't replicate on their end (especially when not present in approved TP's). the fact that the master works fine on certain copies shows there's an issue on United's side with their pressing process - likewise, a locked groove like that is typically due to excess wax in that area on the stamper. again, i'm no expert but I feel like United is trying to shift blame the mastering engineer when the actual problem is in their court. ZAO aside, United is pretty notorious for inconsistency in QA across production runs - hopefully they make it right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daegor Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 As much as this sucks, it makes me feel a lot better, I'm not going to be able to try out my copy for a long time and was worried it was impacted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gretz Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 23 minutes ago, ethereal said: thanks for all the transparency and info - as someone that has experience with plants and issues within production runs, this seems like United has the liability in QA to make sure the issue doesn't replicate on their end (especially when not present in approved TP's). the fact that the master works fine on certain copies shows there's an issue on United's side with their pressing process - likewise, a locked groove like that is typically due to excess wax in that area on the stamper. again, i'm no expert but I feel like United is trying to shift blame the mastering engineer when the actual problem is in their court. ZAO aside, United is pretty notorious for inconsistency in QA across production runs - hopefully they make it right. actually quite the opposite. since there was no issue at the test pressing phase and there are no visible or tactile blemishes on the stamper then it DOES come down to inconsistent cut so the onus is on US. (had we had united CUT it, then it's a different story. If they run another batch off these stampers, we will have the same thing happen because whatever it is, is part of the lacquer that was submitted. the tests were approved by multiple people (as were production copies) so it really is a perfect storm anamoly. ethereal 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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