throwgncpr Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 10 minutes ago, Derek™ said: This is still worse Fridmann. FTFY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MayCauseDeath Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 20 minutes ago, Derek™ said: This is still worse. yes you are right, I am honestly surprised how bad this is. I can't believe no one at any point said "this sounds horrible." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OU818 Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 2 hours ago, MayCauseDeath said: yes you are right, I am honestly surprised how bad this is. I can't believe no one at any point said "this sounds horrible." they should've listened to their instagram comments Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGhostOfRandySavage Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 4 hours ago, MayCauseDeath said: You should go listen to "A City By The Light Divided" by Thursday. Absolutely unlistenable album because of the production on it. Yeah, that's the album that lost me for them and I was a huuuuuuuge fan of theirs as a teenager. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twatay Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 Yikes. The production is awful on that latest track, and yea the outro is like a sick joke. I don't understand the decision regarding production/mixing. I'm still going to listen to the whole thing when it comes out though. But it's not sounding good so far LOL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGhostOfRandySavage Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 8 hours ago, Derek™ said: Tell him that you were bamboozled by the production and that you were led to falsely believe the album would sound serviceable on speakers. Yeah, I pretty much just said, "Hey, these tracks have some of the worst production I've ever heard. Any possible way I could cancel this order because this album is going to be terrible." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek™ Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 12 minutes ago, MachoHommeRandallSauvage said: Yeah, I pretty much just said, "Hey, these tracks have some of the worst production I've ever heard. Any possible way I could cancel this order because this album is going to be terrible." Really curious how this goes over. Honestly, I'm in the mindset that if we're talking strictly about pre-orders, there should be zero interrogation over your reasons to cancel. A return and refund? Sure. Inquire away. I think that if they shoot you down you can probably just go the PayPal route anyway. These tracks haven't really wowed me but I'll at least be giving the album an open-minded listen – or as much of one as possible – if not solely because it's the end of the color saga. Not expecting anything to wow me but if I lower my expectations enough, maybe it'll be manageable. I get that production is very much an artistic choice, and most of us aren't in a band or have any grounds to tell Baroness how to release the music they want to release. But it's pretty wild seeing the waves of Facebook / Youtube / Instagram comments that seem genuinely unhappy with the production choices. It's odd (but amusing) to imagine Baizley scrolling through them all and just shrugging. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGhostOfRandySavage Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 7 minutes ago, Derek™ said: Really curious how this goes over. Honestly, I'm in the mindset that if we're talking strictly about pre-orders, there should be zero interrogation over your reasons to cancel. A return and refund? Sure. Inquire away. I think that if they shoot you down you can probably just go the PayPal route anyway. These tracks haven't really wowed me but I'll at least be giving the album an open-minded listen – or as much of one as possible – if not solely because it's the end of the color saga. Not expecting anything to wow me but if I lower my expectations enough, maybe it'll be manageable. I get that production is very much an artistic choice, and most of us aren't in a band or have any grounds to tell Baroness how to release the music they want to release. But it's pretty wild seeing the waves of Facebook / Youtube / Instagram comments that seem genuinely unhappy with the production choices. It's odd (but amusing) to imagine Baizley scrolling through them all and just shrugging. Yeah, the paypal thing was my plan if they don't let me cancel. I have no desire to get it and then resell that shit, and if it somehow turns out to be a huge banger I can always pick up a black copy down the line somewhere or a repress. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thetrackt Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 Another thread where people are complaining about production? Cool, I’ll see myself out... But, before I do- I read an article that was basically like the mix supposed to be hot as hell. https://www.revolvermag.com/culture/baroness-john-baizley-chaos-and-secrets-gold-grey-cover-art Its supposed to be challenging, noisy, loud and over-the-top because that’s what this album is about. Uncontrolled chaos. This is is not an oversight, and like it or not it is an intentional way they wanted to color these songs. Im stoked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek™ Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 3 minutes ago, thetrackt said: Its supposed to be challenging, noisy, loud and over-the-top because that’s what this album is about. Uncontrolled chaos. What you’re describing sounds like Converge or maybe 90% of what Ballou masters at God City. These singles are not that. Instead of “challenging, noisy, loud, and over-the-top”... I’m definitely hearing “brittle, muffled, clipped and under-128-kbps”. Stoked you’re stoked though. I want to be hyped on this but I’ll turn in my badge as a Baroness superfan, I guess. throwgncpr, thievesdont and whoa 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
throwgncpr Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 That same bullshit excuse was used for A City by the Light Divided. Maybe that was the intent, but the product is not that. I love challenging, noisy, and over-the-top. I have a ton of records in my collection that challenge the listener from an artistic standpoint. You can have chaos, brutality and dynamic range. In fact you need dynamic range to actually have the chaos and punch resonate. This is just shitty production. As Derek said, it's brittle, clipped, and in my opinion it actually lacks any impact because its a one-note over-saturated clipped shit-show. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OU818 Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 This reminds me of the second letlive album. That record was laughably crushed as a "creative decision", but then some studio guy ended up posting one or two rejected mixes that weren't, and the Pro Tools of it really came through clear as day. The clean tracks didn't have the energy the first record or the shows did. On one hand, that's not really a good excuse, but on the other, if you finish a record and it ends up sounding super lame, I guess it's a way around that. Hides Melodyne abuse (on vocals at least) really well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moglog Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 Hot take: This isn’t THAT bad. I generally like Fridmann (The Woods is my favorite Sleater-Kinney album, and lots of people think that sounds like shit too). To be fair though, my hearing is also garbage. EITHER WAY: I still like these songs and am looking forward to the album. thetrackt and KyleHL 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seku Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 (edited) It is really bad. Though 'Purple' is the worst that may happen, but seems like they are going that way even further However, could someone remind me what were the available vinyl variants (maybe you have some mock-ups too?) Edited May 17, 2019 by seku Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zick Posted May 18, 2019 Share Posted May 18, 2019 It blows my mind how they've gone from some of the best production I've ever heard on Blue to this bullshit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erikness Posted May 18, 2019 Share Posted May 18, 2019 Imagine thinking that Baroness is challenging, noisy, loud and over-the-top.. 😂 bubb4, TheGhostOfRandySavage and thetrackt 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
throwgncpr Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 enjoy your brickwalling early: https://www.npr.org/2019/06/10/729219388/first-listen-baroness-gold-grey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daniele Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 Wow!! This is badder than bad.....And it's not production problem only, those songs are so boring......Really regret to have ordered it..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
throwgncpr Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 I actually enjoyed the content, but the production kills any enjoyment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shenanigans Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 Late to the thread. Someone fill me in on the variants? Is there a tour version? Indie store version? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek™ Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 I crunched the numbers; butt rock at 96 kbps comes out to about 48 kbps per cheek. I did not listen to the album yet but probably should if I intend to keep ribbing the band. I bet the stream’s comments are riddled with complaints on social media, if I had to guess. Should be a good read for later on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OU818 Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 This could use a few more solid hooks a la Yellow & Green, but overall I liked it. Very positive music which is probably why people will constantly bitch about them on the internet as they've been doing since 2012. That said, the production is a travesty and really kicks the whole thing down a notch. Shame Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Battra Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 Wow. This is stupid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGhostOfRandySavage Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 3 hours ago, Derek™ said: I crunched the numbers; butt rock at 96 kbps comes out to about 48 kbps per cheek. Hide contents I did not listen to the album yet but probably should if I intend to keep ribbing the band. I bet the stream’s comments are riddled with complaints on social media, if I had to guess. Should be a good read for later on. I made it through 3 songs of the stream before I just gave up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek™ Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 16 minutes ago, MachoHommeRandallSauvage said: I made it through 3 songs of the stream before I just gave up. 3 songs is definitely within “welp, I tried” territory. Good on ya’. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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