Corgipants Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 11 hours ago, ParallelofDeath said: I'm sure many of you have noticed an uptick in scammers on the platform in recent months. Lots of them are mass posting copies of the Long Pond Sessions from RSD, and the live Lover, I have them both in my watch list and 60+% of my daily notifications are those two albums significantly under retail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rooks Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 The latest email is incredible. Quote Discogs is updating our selling fee on May 22, 2023, and we want to support sellers during this change. The new fee is 9% of the item and shipping costs, so if you offer free shipping, the resulting fee will be smaller – and sellers on Discogs who offer free shipping typically see higher order values. Average order size is 2.1 times higher on domestic orders with free shipping and 3.5 times higher on international orders. But don’t just believe us – almost 90% of collectors on Discogs consider buying additional items from a seller to decrease shipping costs, according to a 2023 survey. We created a complete guide to the benefits of free shipping to help you determine if free shipping is right for you. Records that ship for free sell like hotcakes! Don't complain about us charging you a 9% fee on a service we aren't even fucking selling you. Just pay it out of pocket and save the 9% upcharge! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stl_ben Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 Or just build your prices to reflect what fees and shipping will be so that you are happy with the net sale number... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shelby Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 Also their math is really bad unless they just think nobody pays for shipping if you make it free. Which they don't since they're just being sneaky. Including your shipping price in the overall price so it's "free" is still the same 9%. They're literally saying just pay shipping out of pocket to get a lower overall fee. Holy shit. I'm glad I don't really have anything expensive listed right now and it's just shit I need gone for whatever price. It may be time for a discogs replacement soon. rooks 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faaip de oiad Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 How can they be serious?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fish Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 (edited) 50 minutes ago, Shelby said: Also their math is really bad unless they just think nobody pays for shipping if you make it free. Which they don't since they're just being sneaky. Including your shipping price in the overall price so it's "free" is still the same 9%. They're literally saying just pay shipping out of pocket to get a lower overall fee. Holy shit. I'm glad I don't really have anything expensive listed right now and it's just shit I need gone for whatever price. It may be time for a discogs replacement soon. Don't forget that if you raise the cost of your records right now then they get to take 8% of that increase for the next 10 days since they haven't raised the rates and started taking a cut of shipping too. So another small win for them. Edited May 11, 2023 by fish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N8TRU Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 They made their intention$ crystal clear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dnl Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 FYI, don't offer free shipping as a default. Yes, the fees are the same either way, but Discogs doesn't sort by price to include shipping. Even if your price for a record plus shipping is the cheapest option for buyers, your listing will be lower down on the page and potentially buried in the listings. Keep charging shipping unless Discogs fixes their sorting. fish 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stl_ben Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 (edited) I have free shipping on all domestic orders over $100, has worked well for me. Edited May 11, 2023 by stl_ben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shelby Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 2 hours ago, stl_ben said: I have free shipping on all domestic orders over $100, has worked well for me. 99% of us don't have that type of bulk for sale. N8TRU 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZeroNowhere Posted May 12, 2023 Share Posted May 12, 2023 23 hours ago, stl_ben said: I have free shipping on all domestic orders over $100, has worked well for me. I’ve had over 28,000 orders and sold 77,000+ records in the past 7 years and have never given anyone anything for free. I must be doing something wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stl_ben Posted May 12, 2023 Share Posted May 12, 2023 46 minutes ago, ZeroNowhere said: I’ve had over 28,000 orders and sold 77,000+ records in the past 7 years and have never given anyone anything for free. I must be doing something wrong. Not wrong, just different. And no one is getting anything for free, its just the illusion of free. The Amazon model of building the shipping cost into the listed price making customers think they are getting something free. But also congrats on your sales, would love to get to that level some day. I'm more around 500 record/CD sales a year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dawhizz Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 More on the discogs debacle. https://www.stereogum.com/2241158/the-discontent-at-discogs/columns/sounding-board/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dreamover Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 47 minutes ago, dawhizz said: More on the discogs debacle. https://www.stereogum.com/2241158/the-discontent-at-discogs/columns/sounding-board/ Just wait til all sellers receive a 1099-k this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faaip de oiad Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 Seems about right. It's excellent as a database but not for trimming my collection anymore... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
copelandkid Posted November 2, 2023 Share Posted November 2, 2023 17 hours ago, dreamover said: Just wait til all sellers receive a 1099-k this year. i'm guessing the ebay/depop/poshmark et al resale lobby efforts are getting nowhere inre: raising the minimum back up a bit? looks like it's be an ugly tax season for lots of ordinary americans... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youspinmeround Posted November 2, 2023 Share Posted November 2, 2023 (edited) A raise from the 600 to 10k is pending with government approval. Nobody thinks 600 was a good idea Edited November 2, 2023 by youspinmeround copelandkid, N8TRU and faaip de oiad 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
copelandkid Posted November 2, 2023 Share Posted November 2, 2023 3 hours ago, youspinmeround said: A raise from the 600 to 10k is pending with government approval. Nobody thinks 600 was a good idea oh man huge news. looks like it's called the "Red Tape Reduction Act" and passed the House in July. can't find any updates since then... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N8TRU Posted November 2, 2023 Share Posted November 2, 2023 3 hours ago, youspinmeround said: A raise from the 600 to 10k is pending with government approval. Nobody thinks 600 was a good idea Fully agree 12 minutes ago, copelandkid said: oh man huge news. looks like it's called the "Red Tape Reduction Act" and passed the House in July. can't find any updates since then... If anyone learns of any updates please post here. I can't seem to find any updates either. hallowken78, sabukweli and skycriesmary 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Posted November 2, 2023 Share Posted November 2, 2023 It's not going anywere in the Senate since they can't even bother working to nominate nonpartisan government officials, they're not going to work to change that faaip de oiad 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiscodeman Posted December 2, 2023 Share Posted December 2, 2023 Update on the Form 1099-K stuff. IRS announces delay in Form 1099-K reporting threshold for third party platform payments in 2023; plans for a threshold of $5,000 for 2024 to phase in implementation It seems to say that the $5000 threshold for 2024 is temporary to eventually drop to $600 in the future. I hope they rethink that. Even $5000 isn't great. burnthealbum, N8TRU, Alan P and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hallowken78 Posted December 2, 2023 Share Posted December 2, 2023 9 hours ago, wiscodeman said: Update on the Form 1099-K stuff. IRS announces delay in Form 1099-K reporting threshold for third party platform payments in 2023; plans for a threshold of $5,000 for 2024 to phase in implementation It seems to say that the $5000 threshold for 2024 is temporary to eventually drop to $600 in the future. I hope they rethink that. Even $5000 isn't great. It's definitely encouraging to hear they're re-thinking how this will apply. I think if they can raise the threshold and eliminate the ambiguity with how it is applied, then most of us will come out unscathed. Then again, I could be totally naive... copelandkid 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robotfactory Posted December 2, 2023 Share Posted December 2, 2023 On 11/1/2023 at 4:35 PM, faaip de oiad said: Seems about right. It's excellent as a database but not for trimming my collection anymore... So what do you use or plan to use? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faaip de oiad Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 14 hours ago, robotfactory said: So what do you use or plan to use? At the moment I can't trim the fat, not selling til next year. I reached about $1000 this summer and stopped coz of that stoopid law. This sucks coz I like to upgrade my old stuff with better copies, pressings or colors. I do that a lot...¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shelby Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 Y'all sound like you still raise your hand to speak. Just keep selling and lie duh. faaip de oiad, ethanpricington, burnthealbum and 1 other 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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