archiced Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 First single drop 08/02 . The PO's will certainly follow. https://www.officialrefused.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek™ Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 This album can't possibly be good, can it? davepriz 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xfactor675 Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 4 minutes ago, Derek™ said: This album can't possibly be good, can it? that 30 second teaser is better than anything on Freedom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek™ Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 5 minutes ago, xfactor675 said: that 30 second teaser is better than anything on Freedom. That isn’t necessarily saying a whole lot but it’s got my curiosity at least. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
throwgncpr Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 1 hour ago, Derek™ said: This album can't possibly be good, can it? No. daniele 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xen0m0rph Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 Wondering if Samurai songs will be on this release. Or they will release it separately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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holyvacantsholyhell Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 (edited) Well... here’s hoping Freedom was just a misstep. We shall see. Their tour of small venues a few years back was still one of the most intense things I’ve ever seen. Edited July 24, 2019 by holyvacantsholyhell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dynamitekid Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 I need to relisten to Freedom. I think the worst thing about it is that I never think about it if that makes sense. I don't think I could name a single song off of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exileinoblivion Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 33 minutes ago, dynamitekid said: I need to relisten to Freedom. I think the worst thing about it is that I never think about it if that makes sense. I don't think I could name a single song off of it. Perfect way to describe it . It wasn't bad just forgettable . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdwell Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 Freedom was easily the biggest let-down in quite a few years for me. I loved seeing the reunion performance I caught.....thankfully it was well-before Freedom. I can't fathom I will find any of this album interesting or compelling....honestly, I'd rather see him revive AC4 or T(i)NC than listen to another new Refused album. holyvacantsholyhell 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cside Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 I'm going to have to disagree with the masses on Freedom. I think expectations were just too damn high. TSOPTC was groundbreaking when it came out, it was almost unfathomable that a band could go from STFLTFOD to Shape in such a short time. Anyone expecting a similar elevation of game would surely be disappointed. Instead it's more of the same with a few signs of growth and a few signs of looking backwards. IMO Elekta, Dawkins Christ, 366 could easily have fit onto Shape. Old Friends/New War and Thought is Blood are amazing and show signs off growth. Francafrique, Servants of Death, and Useless Europeans have an early 90s alternative vibe that is pretty decent. The other tunes are filler. I'd suggest revisiting the record with fresh ears and an open mind. It's definitely their second best LP. firebird1 and holyvacantsholyhell 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holyvacantsholyhell Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 11 minutes ago, cside said: I'm going to have to disagree with the masses on Freedom. I think expectations were just too damn high. TSOPTC was groundbreaking when it came out, it was almost unfathomable that a band could go from STFLTFOD to Shape in such a short time. Anyone expecting a similar elevation of game would surely be disappointed. Instead it's more of the same with a few signs of growth and a few signs of looking backwards. IMO Elekta, Dawkins Christ, 366 could easily have fit onto Shape. Old Friends/New War and Thought is Blood are amazing and show signs off growth. Francafrique, Servants of Death, and Useless Europeans have an early 90s alternative vibe that is pretty decent. The other tunes are filler. I'd suggest revisiting the record with fresh ears and an open mind. It's definitely their second best LP. JUDAS’ HEART NIETZSCHE’S SOUL DAWKINS’ COCK IN A GOD SHAPED HOLE lol fuck outta here, Freedom sucks throwgncpr 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddha4281 Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 Servants of death EP was meh as well. Jussayin... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Ives Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 I really like Freedom, but I could listen to Refused throw shit at the wall all day and not care whether any of it sticks. 'It sounds like the Foo Fighters!' No, it really, truly, does not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeromium Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 I only listened to Freedom once, as I recall. Guess I should try again. It's definitely not their second best though, since their first 3 are all really good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chunkrock Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 (edited) I really don't like Freedom (I don't hate it nearly as much as everyone else does), I haven't listened to it in at least 2 or 3 years. But I will say I saw them the year it came out and thought the songs were quite a bit better live. Then I saw them a year after and thought the 4 songs they played from it were way better live than even the year before. The production on Freedom is what really sucks, and the performances are week and feel rushed and unpracticed. **Edit, also the song writing does feel rushed with just similar riffs and beats from TSOPTC) Edited July 25, 2019 by chunkrock Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holyvacantsholyhell Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 To be fair, cause I know everyone is dying to know, I don’t hate Freedom either. Seeing that much praise heaped upon it just triggered me cause I’m a sensitive lizard. the songs were fun live, they’re a kickass band, and TSOPTC was one of the most important albums ever. But Freedom should be left in 2015 and forgotten where it belongs. It’s just meh. It didn’t ruin their legacy, but if this one is more of the same, I’m confident in saying that it will be seriously tarnished. cside and chunkrock 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek™ Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 Anytime someone mentions the last Refused record, this is all I can think of. firebird1, holyvacantsholyhell and Mattallurgist 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GradedOnACurve Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 Dawkins Christ was the only memorable song on Freedom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justinadamk Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 (edited) US Preorder - Bright Red Opaque w/ Black Starburst - https://refused.merchnow.com/ UK/EU - Clear with Black Splatter and Black - https://uk.kingsroadmerch.com/refused/ Edited August 2, 2019 by Justinadamk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exileinoblivion Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 I actually like the new song way more then I was expecting. But that's just me . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holyvacantsholyhell Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 Well. Fuck this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerseydave77 Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 Came here when I got the email to find the first track. That was not for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youspinmeround Posted August 3, 2019 Share Posted August 3, 2019 This sounds like a Lost Prophets song. Very embarassing Chrundle The Great, erickcore and dantheriver 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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