TheDuke 59 Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 (edited) On 10/16/2020 at 10:17 PM, Shelby American said: What's wrong with that figure? Is it fair to say that Cherry Bomb was probably one of the highest profile releases of the drops? Just looking at that I see 249 sold listings on ebay and another 13 on discogs with a good amount still for sale. Let's add up all the secondary sales and then add 150 more just to be safe (if my ebay search somehow missed that many) to not undercut the actual percentage and get 400-450 copies that have probably sold on the aftermarket. There were 7,250 copies pressed for the US and another 7,250 for the rest of the world. So out of 14,500 copies about 2.7-3.1% have been flipped publicly. Even if I somehow missed 250-300 more secondary sales it only just hits 5%. Yeah every release is different but I'm sure when averaged together it won't be too far off 95%. That doesn't work out quite as well for that Blue Tron Legacy release last month. I counted at least 60 auctions, by no means all of them..plus there's plenty of fixed priced copies still available, all well over the retail price..and i haven't checked discogs sales. I would put at least 20% or more of those were flipped. Edited October 24, 2020 by TheDuke Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Shelby American 4,326 Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 20 minutes ago, TheDuke said: That does work out for that Blue Tron Legacy release last month. I counted at least 60 auctions, by no means all of them..plus there's plenty of fixed priced copies still available, all well over the retail price..and i haven't checked discogs sales. I would put at least 20% or more of those were flipped. I'm not sure where you're counting but ebay shows 46 copies sold for me. Yeah there's more listed but thats not part of their statistic. Even 60 is 6% of 1,000 so it's a huge stretch to throw that number out there and say "yeah so at least 20% were flipped". Thats 140 more copies, discogs currently shows 8 sales. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
unknown pleasures 1,589 Posted October 18, 2020 Share Posted October 18, 2020 4 hours ago, Shelby American said: I'm not sure where you're counting but ebay shows 46 copies sold for me. Yeah there's more listed but thats not part of their statistic. Even 60 is 6% of 1,000 so it's a huge stretch to throw that number out there and say "yeah so at least 20% were flipped". Thats 140 more copies, discogs currently shows 8 sales. I don’t really have the time to work out the numbers so I’ll take you at face value and agree if you think the 5% figure they give us is accurate, but it would be unfair to only include sold copies and not those still for sale priced over retail as they technically take away from the pool of copies available to the public at retail. Each of those represent a copy taken off a wall or out of a bin in some retail environment and being offered for sale at a markup. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
digitalwaala 1 Posted October 18, 2020 Share Posted October 18, 2020 i am very amazed OneThreeOneTwo 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
fish 316 Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 On 10/17/2020 at 4:40 PM, Shelby American said: I'm not sure where you're counting but ebay shows 46 copies sold for me. Yeah there's more listed but thats not part of their statistic. Even 60 is 6% of 1,000 so it's a huge stretch to throw that number out there and say "yeah so at least 20% were flipped". Thats 140 more copies, discogs currently shows 8 sales. Popsike shows around 120 sold copies on eBay for "rsd 2020 tron". I'm sure there are more without that exact wording in the title. So the percentages are higher for the hotter titles. With the less sought after ones closing the % gap overall. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Shelby American 4,326 Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 6 minutes ago, fish said: Popsike shows around 120 sold copies on eBay for "rsd 2020 tron". I'm sure there are more without that exact wording in the title. So the percentages are higher for the hotter titles. With the less sought after ones closing the % gap overall. Yeah that would make sense. There are too many unflippable records due to lack of interest that somehow have larger pressings than the in demand ones to really balk at their figure in the end. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Shelby American 4,326 Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 6 minutes ago, fish said: Popsike shows around 120 sold copies on eBay for "rsd 2020 tron". I'm sure there are more without that exact wording in the title. So the percentages are higher for the hotter titles. With the less sought after ones closing the % gap overall. Yeah that would make sense. There are too many unflippable records due to lack of interest that somehow have larger pressings than the in demand ones to really balk at their figure in the end. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MicLima 194 Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 So...who's in for Skid Row on Saturday? Last one on my list of two for this year. Hopefully it's easier to get than NIB was. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
OneThreeOneTwo 320 Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 Only thing that I'm looking for is that Calexico reissue... Unless there's been an update on that Dirty Three boxset? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
merlecakes 31 Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 Need to decide if I want to fork out the $ for Clutch... if I can find it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
faaip de oiad 465 Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 12 hours ago, MicLima said: So...who's in for Skid Row on Saturday? This one looks like the only one I'm interested in this time around😅 Gotta save something for rsdbf! MicLima 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rhcp02 54 Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 5 hours ago, faaip de oiad said: This one looks like the only one I'm interested in this time around😅 Gotta save something for rsdbf! Yes!! I played the shit out of the tape in 93 now time to upgrade!! Lol faaip de oiad 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MicLima 194 Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 On 10/21/2020 at 8:45 AM, rhcp02 said: Yes!! I played the shit out of the tape in 93 now time to upgrade!! Lol Same! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ZeroNowhere 435 Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 Does anyone know if the Pepper release has been delayed or canceled? It looks like 2 local shops didn't get copies. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
djghost1976 306 Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 4 minutes ago, ZeroNowhere said: Does anyone know if the Pepper release has been delayed or canceled? It looks like 2 local shops didn't get copies. One of my shops showed an actual pic of it in their RSD preview, so I'm guessing not canceled but maybe delayed to some stores? ZeroNowhere 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ZeroNowhere 435 Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 2 hours ago, djghost1976 said: One of my shops showed an actual pic of it in their RSD preview, so I'm guessing not canceled but maybe delayed to some stores? Right on, I appreciate the response. It's the only thing I'm interested in so I'm hoping I can find a copy. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Scruffy...the janitor 294 Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 I read through a number of pages and have some ideas, but where are y'all having the most online success for RSD titles? I only want one thing(Pepper like the user above), but my store didn't receive a copy and I'm not traveling to SF for one record. I will be searching around on Saturday myself, but any other help is appreciated. I mean, that's the whole point of this forum right? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Olsvik 550 Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 Hope I can snag this Madlib + Karriem Riggins on BF https://www.rappcats.com/shop/pardon-my-french/ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Supernaut 9 Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 Nabbed the Polish Club live album and the Bitches Brew rare stuff 2LP. The rare occasion that an outtakes LP is filled with actual unheard songs and not studio garble. Nobody in australia seems to have the Kali Uchis EP. It's like clipping. part two. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ZeroNowhere 435 Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 Nobody local to me is getting Pepper. If anyone finds a copy I’ll gladly pay extra for your time and help. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
timsimmons 1,796 Posted October 23, 2020 Author Share Posted October 23, 2020 Need that Frankie and the Witchfingers. Local struck out. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sad Heart 2,648 Posted October 24, 2020 Share Posted October 24, 2020 Debating hitting you my local shop in the morning for Freddie Gibbs. The only thing I want this go around. But also considering just paying a little more tomorrow or down the road to save the waking up early / hunting it down. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
craigeduk 291 Posted October 24, 2020 Share Posted October 24, 2020 10 hours ago, timsimmons said: Need that Frankie and the Witchfingers. Local struck out. Picked up the Cocaine Dream swirl edition in the UK, was slightly confused that it was a muddy green/black smoke swirl rather than something white! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
craigeduk 291 Posted October 24, 2020 Share Posted October 24, 2020 (edited) Would really recommend the Various Artist comp from Captured Tracks - Strum & Thrum: The American Jangle Underground 83 to 87. Great package (87 page book!) and not too pricey either https://recordstoreday.com/SpecialRelease/13272 Edited October 24, 2020 by craigeduk Plarocks 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TheDuke 59 Posted October 24, 2020 Share Posted October 24, 2020 1 hour ago, craigeduk said: Picked up the Cocaine Dream swirl edition in the UK, was slightly confused that it was a muddy green/black smoke swirl rather than something white! Not heard this band before, but psyche music is my thing. What do you think of them? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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