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Unless they say, you usually don’t. 
 

limited generally means, we’re pressing this one time and don’t plan to do it this way again.

 

 

heres the kicker, even that may not be true. Stuff gets repressed, sometimes the exact same way. And sometimes if they say they pressed 2000, they have pressed even more.

 

collect what you wanna collect and have fun. Don’t get too hung up on the rarity or value. 

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As a general rule the easiest way to find out is to check a website we probably all frequent called Discogs.com it lists every version of a release and often data like pressing numbers are posted on each version where available. That said I had a cursory glance on your behalf and found that whilst it's listed as limited no numbers are stated.

As Tim has said there's no perfect way to calculate correct numbers if a label or company don't advertise them. If they do advertise a number then even that is to be taken with a grain of salt for the reasons above.

 

There's always a level of false scarcity when it comes to records as it does help drive sales and you'll often find an unspecified "limited" release is selling at a higher price point. That said for an artist as big as Janet Jackson I'd say your looking at something that probably has 1000 copies or more out there.

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3 minutes ago, chrispa1 said:

Thanks. That's still very low compared to the number of fans or collectors, wouldn't you say? 

Not necessarily. Depends on the artist and the album. A remix album limited to 1000 isn't going to be rare. They will probably have a hard time selling 1000 of that.

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8 minutes ago, museummouth said:

Not necessarily. Depends on the artist and the album. A remix album limited to 1000 isn't going to be rare. They will probably have a hard time selling 1000 of that.

Agreed, certain bands and artists have RABID fans who will buy literally anything. 
But most bands, even very popular ones only ever see crazy demand for their best releases. 

Live albums and remix albums are usually quick to end up in the discount bin, or selling second hand for less than retail price.

 

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Just now, chrispa1 said:

Thanks. That's still very low compared to the number of fans or collectors, wouldn't you say? 

Its a total guess its probably somewhere in the thousands, the only way to get any clarification would be to email the label directly and hope someone gets back to you. Then you have to hope that the number they give you stays the same, its not uncommon practice for an item to be put up for pre-order with a limit to have its limit increased and with them not posting numbers publicly its even easier for them to do this.

 

Ultimately just like Tim said above if you get into this hobby of collecting records buy what you like and don't worry about value or scarcity. You never know what will end up being worth a lot down the line, just like any investment its a gamble because you need to land in the sweet spot where demand is higher than supply. An album that is worth 300 bucks for years can always wind up becoming available again or reprinted and then wind up being worth 20.

 

Pick the records you love with the intention of playing them and you always win.

 

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I would also stress, Its not an investment per say. If you are looking to make money, vinyl isn't the way, buy stocks or bonds or something that will give you a great rate of return on your money.  These are just physical things. In some cases you can make money because its value increases. I would argue, thats maybe 5-10% of records though. Most end up being valued less what you paid for it.

 

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