MayCauseDeath Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 i AM SO MAD, I DECIDED TO TAKE A NAP AND WOKE UP TO EVERYTHING SOLD OUT!! If anyone picked up an extra please help me out! I have pretty much a complete collection. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N8TRU Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 I just wanna say whoever actually has the rights to these old school metalcore releases, like NJ and UØ, that isn't pressing them to make bank is a big stupid idiot. Juturna90, copelandkid and gazzo 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grizzlyfoz Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, N8TRU said: I just wanna say whoever actually has the rights to these old school metalcore releases, like NJ and UØ, that isn't pressing them to make bank is a big stupid idiot. This was one of the band’s Razor & Tie releases which is a part a of the Universal conglomerate. Most Tooth & Nail releases prior to 2013 or so are now also part of the same conglomerate, so unfortunately those bands probably aren’t the biggest priority for company to release themselves. Edited April 25, 2020 by grizzlyfoz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N8TRU Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 4 minutes ago, grizzlyfoz said: This was one of the band’s Razor & Tie releases which is a part a of the Universal conglomerate. Most Tooth & Nail releases prior to 2013 or so are now also part of the same conglomerate, so unfortunately those bands probably aren’t the biggest priority for company to release themselves. Fearless owns Razor & Tie now and I haven't seen them put anything on vinyl since the acquisition. I was really hoping for Sworn In and some others but no luck. grizzlyfoz 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
museummouth Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 5 hours ago, N8TRU said: I just wanna say whoever actually has the rights to these old school metalcore releases, like NJ and UØ, that isn't pressing them to make bank is a big stupid idiot. Right? Define The Great Line and They’re Only Chasing Safety could sell a few thousand each easily. N8TRU 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyEnemy Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 7 hours ago, N8TRU said: old school metalcore releases, like NJ and UØ This made me literally laugh out out. daegor 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejc625 Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 Glad they included both b-sides. Got the /300. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffthomas84 Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 On 4/24/2020 at 7:49 PM, hyperg1ant said: Entire batch sold out. Now press "bless the martyr" the real most requested repress. this!!! Hope it happens hyperg1ant 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rottengoth Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 On 4/24/2020 at 4:49 PM, hyperg1ant said: Entire batch sold out. Now press "bless the martyr" the real most requested repress. While they’re at it press I Am Hollywood already for fuck sake lungfutang, V3XED and Juturna90 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stubenrocker73 Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 Eu batch of vinyl is up /100 (74 left) https://evilgreed.net/collections/norma-jean/products/norma-jean-meridional-2xlp backpackoat and Nateisgame 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MayCauseDeath Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 46 minutes ago, Stubenrocker73 said: Eu batch of vinyl is up /100 (74 left) https://evilgreed.net/collections/norma-jean/products/norma-jean-meridional-2xlp I ordered it, came to 41 euros shipped. Not horribly worse than 35$ Plus shipping from US which I missed out on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ethereal Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 $47 shipped sucked but happy to own this finally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
etphonehome Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 Grabbed the /100 thanks for posting this! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Steele Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 2 hours ago, Stubenrocker73 said: Eu batch of vinyl is up /100 (74 left) https://evilgreed.net/collections/norma-jean/products/norma-jean-meridional-2xlp Don’t think it’s /100 but simply the US /500. Grabbed one anyway. Thought about grabbing one from the US store, hesitated because of the price, after which it sold out. illuminographer 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
backpackoat Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 Crazy to me that it's still up. Thank you very much, I was upset to miss the first round. My favorite NJ album c_dillybone 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
copelandkid Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 3 hours ago, ethereal said: $47 shipped sucked but happy to own this finally. was $42 shipped for me from the US store, not the worst disparity for "importing" 1 hour ago, Jim Steele said: Don’t think it’s /100 but simply the US /500. Grabbed one anyway. Thought about grabbing one from the US store, hesitated because of the price, after which it sold out. believe you're right, as the band stated on an FB comment that they were only licensed to press 1k total. so probably put 400 of the/500 up on the US store and the other 100 on the EU one. illuminographer 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCDELTAT Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 1 hour ago, copelandkid said: believe you're right, as the band stated on an FB comment that they were only licensed to press 1k total. Side-note: I really hate when labels do this. It makes no sense. Rather a flat rate of "It will cost $10,000 and you can only make 1,000 Copies" they should do "Make as many as you want, but you owe us $10 per record." This happens with so many represses like this and I always think "well we'll get another repress in approximately never." copelandkid 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadDonut Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 (edited) On 4/24/2020 at 3:14 PM, MyEnemy said: I still can’t wrap my head around this logic. Unless you’re a fairweather collector, $40 PPD for a double LP is at the high end, but still, in the “normal” range. Especially for a band putting it out themselves, in a day in age where “let’s support bands” is very much needed. Norma Jean weren’t packing out 1000 cap rooms before any of this started... I totally get it. I would love to buy this knowing that it is all going to the band. I was actually kind of gutted it ended up selling out so quick because I was actually reconsidering. For me though it's more of a personal cap/principle I've put on myself lately. I can't keep spending $30+ every time something gets released that I want. It's too much now. Back when I first started collecting single LPs were like $16-18 plus a few bucks for shipping. Double LPs were usually $5 or so more. Now it's like $28-30 just for a single and $35-40 for a double. It's crazy. I pretty much completely stopped buying Mondo releases because they've gotten so high up there. I still do really want to own this album but maybe it will be a trade with someone down the road. I'd much rather use the trade bait I have sitting around than the $40 in my bank account. Edited May 7, 2020 by justin_cole12 N8TRU 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ethereal Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 $40 beats the $150+ it’s been going for; also to clarify, a lot more more goes into the pricing then just the direct cost of manufacturing the vinyl... like a lot more. you can’t honestly expect bands and labels to just sell something for $20 because “historically that makes sense”. its easy to sit behind a computer and complain when you have zero clue how licensing and costs work. If it’s too much for you don’t buy it? It’s that simple. you guys act like they are purposely ripping people off... I would suggest doing some research on trying to press a record from a defunct label for music you no longer own. These tropes would sound a lot different. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadDonut Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 (edited) Lol simmer down man. I'm giving my reasoning on why I'm not buying $40 records anymore. I understand how this all works. And just because something goes for "$150" doesn't mean $40 isn't high for vinyl. Edit: also don't just assume that people don't know what we are talking about and the ins and outs of it all. Lots of us have been collecting for numerous years. We get it. And I never said once that I felt anyone was being ripped off. Super fuckihg cool for NJ to sell out of this. I'm happy for them. Edited May 7, 2020 by justin_cole12 N8TRU and Jim Steele 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
se7enstitches Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 (edited) sweet Edited May 7, 2020 by se7enstitches Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dreamover Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 On 5/1/2020 at 5:37 PM, MCDELTAT said: Side-note: I really hate when labels do this. It makes no sense. Rather a flat rate of "It will cost $10,000 and you can only make 1,000 Copies" they should do "Make as many as you want, but you owe us $10 per record." This happens with so many represses like this and I always think "well we'll get another repress in approximately never." Larger labels are always trying to protect their investments. Licenses always expire at some point. Not only is it easier to license out a finite amount, when the label decides on a number (in this case, 1000) they probably want to gauge interest while limiting their risk. Now that they saw how fast it sold and what people are willing to pay, they now know they can license it out for higher fees or press it themselves. For instance, I licensed out a particular record several years ago and the label allowed me to press 500 copies. They sold out in a matter of days. When we asked to do a repress or talk about pressing other records by this particular band, we were told something to the effect of ‘we saw how successful the presale went. We’re going to handle future vinyl releases for this band.’ sometimes there’s a bigger picture that may or may not consider the best interests of the artist, the fans, or the label. But you know, capitalism. rcafilm, MCDELTAT and V3XED 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V3XED Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 32 minutes ago, dreamover said: Larger labels are always trying to protect their investments. Licenses always expire at some point. Not only is it easier to license out a finite amount, when the label decides on a number (in this case, 1000) they probably want to gauge interest while limiting their risk. Now that they saw how fast it sold and what people are willing to pay, they now know they can license it out for higher fees or press it themselves. For instance, I licensed out a particular record several years ago and the label allowed me to press 500 copies. They sold out in a matter of days. When we asked to do a repress or talk about pressing other records by this particular band, we were told something to the effect of ‘we saw how successful the presale went. We’re going to handle future vinyl releases for this band.’ sometimes there’s a bigger picture that may or may not consider the best interests of the artist, the fans, or the label. But you know, capitalism. Very interesting insight, thank you for sharing! Love learning more about the biz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCDELTAT Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 1 hour ago, dreamover said: Larger labels are always trying to protect their investments. Licenses always expire at some point. Not only is it easier to license out a finite amount, when the label decides on a number (in this case, 1000) they probably want to gauge interest while limiting their risk. Now that they saw how fast it sold and what people are willing to pay, they now know they can license it out for higher fees or press it themselves. For instance, I licensed out a particular record several years ago and the label allowed me to press 500 copies. They sold out in a matter of days. When we asked to do a repress or talk about pressing other records by this particular band, we were told something to the effect of ‘we saw how successful the presale went. We’re going to handle future vinyl releases for this band.’ sometimes there’s a bigger picture that may or may not consider the best interests of the artist, the fans, or the label. But you know, capitalism. Makes sense on that side of it. It'd be funny if they still never do a repress. What record was it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plarocks Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 14 minutes ago, MCDELTAT said: Makes sense on that side of it. It'd be funny if they still never do a repress. What record was it? I think it was Creed.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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