dracodrago1330 Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 Hello, I was wondering about something that happened to a record (https://www.discogs.com/FFF-Coco-Bryce-Double-Dragon-EP/master/1189338) of mine. I got it a few months ago and have probably played the songs on it around 10 times, 20 maximum. The past few times I've played it I've noticed that some of the sounds on it (synthesizers?) have begun to sound warbly and distorted, unlike my first plays of the record and uploads of the music. I noticed this on my stereo setup, not the recording device, so it's not the recording device. If this means anything, which it may, the tracks are A2 and B2, so they're closer to the label. I also noticed in my recording that the distorted part is distorted only when other sounds are playing, i.e. when the sound is playing by itself there's no distortion. Am I: Video Player is loading. 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I also acquired a noise record (a record that has been mutilated by someone to sound like, well, noise) from a friend and have tried to play it a few times. I also have a tendency to drop the tonearm onto the record; could either of these break my stylus to the point where it plays a record wrong? I don't think that it's the stylus because I don't hear this on other records. (Also, you can hear the distortion on A2 (it also occurs on B2) in this audio file: https://sndup.net/7726) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rooks Posted September 3, 2020 Share Posted September 3, 2020 2 hours ago, dracodrago1330 said: Hello, I was wondering about something that happened to a record (https://www.discogs.com/FFF-Coco-Bryce-Double-Dragon-EP/master/1189338) of mine. I got it a few months ago and have probably played the songs on it around 10 times, 20 maximum. The past few times I've played it I've noticed that some of the sounds on it (synthesizers?) have begun to sound warbly and distorted, unlike my first plays of the record and uploads of the music. I noticed this on my stereo setup, not the recording device, so it's not the recording device. If this means anything, which it may, the tracks are A2 and B2, so they're closer to the label. I also noticed in my recording that the distorted part is distorted only when other sounds are playing, i.e. when the sound is playing by itself there's no distortion. Am I: Video Player is loading. Play Video Replay Unmute Current Time 0:19 / Duration 0:19 Loaded: 100.00% 0:19 Stream Type LIVE Seek to live, currently playing liveLIVE Remaining Time -0:00 Playback Rate 1x Chapters Chapters Descriptions descriptions off, selected Captions captions settings, opens captions settings dialog captions off, selected Audio Track Fullscreen This is a modal window. Beginning of dialog window. Escape will cancel and close the window. 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Play Video Replay Unmute Current Time 0:19 / Duration 0:19 Loaded: 100.00% 0:19 Stream Type LIVE Seek to live, currently playing liveLIVE Remaining Time -0:00 Playback Rate 1x Chapters Chapters Descriptions descriptions off, selected Captions captions settings, opens captions settings dialog captions off, selected Audio Track Fullscreen This is a modal window. Beginning of dialog window. Escape will cancel and close the window. 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Escape will cancel and close the window. TextColorWhiteBlackRedGreenBlueYellowMagentaCyanTransparencyOpaqueSemi-Transparent BackgroundColorBlackWhiteRedGreenBlueYellowMagentaCyanTransparencyOpaqueSemi-TransparentTransparent WindowColorBlackWhiteRedGreenBlueYellowMagentaCyanTransparencyTransparentSemi-TransparentOpaque Font Size50%75%100%125%150%175%200%300%400% Text Edge StyleNoneRaisedDepressedUniformDropshadow Font FamilyProportional Sans-SerifMonospace Sans-SerifProportional SerifMonospace SerifCasualScriptSmall Caps Reset restore all settings to the default valuesDone Close Modal Dialog End of dialog window. Advertisement playing the record with a broken cartridge / stylus? being ripped off by the seller? (The record was supposed to be in mint condition except with a generic sleeve; the record was out for a few years before I got it) making a mountain out of a molehill over a normal-for-this-kind-of-music problem? I also acquired a noise record (a record that has been mutilated by someone to sound like, well, noise) from a friend and have tried to play it a few times. I also have a tendency to drop the tonearm onto the record; could either of these break my stylus to the point where it plays a record wrong? I don't think that it's the stylus because I don't hear this on other records. (Also, you can hear the distortion on A2 (it also occurs on B2) in this audio file: https://sndup.net/7726) What the fuck is a "noise record" and please never fucking put it on a living turntable again you monster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek™ Posted September 3, 2020 Share Posted September 3, 2020 Wait, you’re playing a physically manipulated, scratched, or mauled “noise” record? That will wreak havoc on your setup and I would strongly suggest never doing that again. But I’m also fascinated by the appeal in the first place... is it like a mixtape for aspiring artsy kids? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rooks Posted September 3, 2020 Share Posted September 3, 2020 Just buy a Merzbow record and call it a day without destroying your needle. Mars 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sad Heart Posted September 3, 2020 Share Posted September 3, 2020 2 minutes ago, rooks said: Just buy a Merzbow record and call it a day without destroying your needle. Hahahaha. That’s so accurate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shelby Posted September 3, 2020 Share Posted September 3, 2020 Can you please record the noise record? I have a hunch about what it could be but need to hear that first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Hundred Fifty-Two Posted September 3, 2020 Share Posted September 3, 2020 I think your ears might be the problem Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fowty Dollaz Posted September 3, 2020 Share Posted September 3, 2020 4 hours ago, dracodrago1330 said: Noise record ) Understand your customers Plug and play with your current sta Video Player is loading. Play Video Replay Unmute Current Time 0:19 / Duration 0:19 Loaded: 100.00% 0:19 Stream Type LIVE Seek to live, currently playing liveLIVE Remaining Time -0:00 Playback Rate 1x Chapters Chapters Descriptions descriptions off, selected Captions captions settings, opens captions settings dialog captions off, selected Audio Track Fullscreen This is a modal window. Beginning of dialog window. Escape will cancel and close the window. TextColorWhiteBlackRedGreenBlueYellowMagentaCyanTransparencyOpaqueSemi-Transparent BackgroundColorBlackWhiteRedGreenBlueYellowMagentaCyanTransparencyOpaqueSemi-TransparentTransparent WindowColorBlackWhiteRedGreenBlueYellowMagentaCyanTransparencyTransparentSemi-TransparentOpaque Font Size50%75%100%125%150%175%200%300%400% Text Edge StyleNoneRaisedDepressedUniformDropshadow Font FamilyProportional Sans-SerifMonospace Sans-SerifProportional SerifMonospace SerifCasualScriptSmall Caps Reset restore all settings to the default valuesDone Clos also acquired a noise record (a record that has been mutilated by someone to sound like, well, noise) from a friend and have tried to play it a few times. Can we merge this with the last Death Grips thread? Probably Year of the Snitch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dracodrago1330 Posted September 3, 2020 Author Share Posted September 3, 2020 10 hours ago, Tidal Wave said: I think your ears might be the problem No, I sent my dad the audio and he agreed that it sounded off. ingoodhands 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dracodrago1330 Posted September 3, 2020 Author Share Posted September 3, 2020 12 hours ago, Shelby American said: Can you please record the noise record? I have a hunch about what it could be but need to hear that first. I would record it / send pictures of it but I'm afraid of belittlement by all the people who think it's their job to call out the people who do what they want to do with their record player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek™ Posted September 3, 2020 Share Posted September 3, 2020 1 minute ago, dracodrago1330 said: I would record it / send pictures of it but I'm afraid of belittlement by all the people who think it's their job to call out the people who do what they want to do with their record player. There’s no need to get snooty. You’re the one who joined the boards to ask this question. If you’re not trolling and you legitimately played a physically scuffed record, it’s like joining an appliance forum to ask why your washing machine sounds a little rattly after its 10th use, and speculating that it could have something to do with the occasional heavy cycle of cedar bricks and nails. And then getting defensive when others question if you’re for real? Come on. Mars and Shelby 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ethereal Posted September 3, 2020 Share Posted September 3, 2020 You are trolling us - or incredibly stupid - probably both ingoodhands and Shelby 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dracodrago1330 Posted September 3, 2020 Author Share Posted September 3, 2020 3 minutes ago, Derek™ said: There’s no need to get snooty. You’re the one who joined the boards to ask this question. If you’re not trolling and you legitimately played a physically scuffed record, it’s like joining an appliance forum to ask why your washing machine sounds a little rattly after its 10th use, and speculating that it could have something to do with the occasional heavy cycle of cedar bricks and nails. And then getting defensive when others question if you’re for real? Come on. Well I'm somewhat new to vinyl and I had no clue if playing a noise record could cause damage. Anyways, should I play the record on another turntable with a different cartridge to see if it's my main turntable's cartridge? I don't hear distortion like this on any other records; I have around twenty others and got a new record recently (I listened to it a lot; this was after i noticed the distortion) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rooks Posted September 3, 2020 Share Posted September 3, 2020 this thread is dead now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek™ Posted September 3, 2020 Share Posted September 3, 2020 12 minutes ago, rooks said: this thread is dead now. It was so much more fun and enticing when there was the plausibility that OP was sincere and not just trolling. Like the little bit of “what if...” magic in the air around Christmas time, as a toddler. A firm 4/10 bait thread for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ethereal Posted September 3, 2020 Share Posted September 3, 2020 13 hours ago, Sad Heart said: Hahahaha. That’s so accurate. hahahahaha merzbow hahahahahaha noise lolololololol !!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dracodrago1330 Posted September 3, 2020 Author Share Posted September 3, 2020 Quote It was so much more fun and enticing when there was the plausibility that OP was sincere and not just trolling. Like the little bit of “what if...” magic in the air around Christmas time, as a toddler. A firm 4/10 bait thread for me. Well, it's not bait, and there's actually a problem! "There's no need to get snooty." You see the stylus? It's over ~15 degrees from where it should be. A horrible illustration of the stylus, but it gets the job done: red is where it is, green is where it should be. Now, changing the topic to something that I hope people can actually answer and not go "Troll!! Troll!!" even though it's a real question: how do I fix this crooked stylus without permanent damage? I tried pushing it gently over, but it didn't move and I didn't push harder in fear that the stylus might break. ingoodhands, Satan and twatay 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satan Posted September 3, 2020 Share Posted September 3, 2020 Yikes! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billich0986 Posted September 3, 2020 Share Posted September 3, 2020 2 minutes ago, Satan said: Yikes! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghost Posted September 3, 2020 Share Posted September 3, 2020 13 minutes ago, dracodrago1330 said: You see the stylus? It's over ~15 degrees from where it should be. Yeahh, that might be your problem. Never had this happen to me but all I can think of is taking, like, a set of pliers or something and slowly forming it back into its place. If that doesn't work you might have to replace that part? And be careful about playing any damaged or dirty records. That can seriously wreck your needle or, in this case, the tonearm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dracodrago1330 Posted September 3, 2020 Author Share Posted September 3, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, ghost said: Yeahh, that might be your problem. Never had this happen to me but all I can think of is taking, like, a set of pliers or something and slowly forming it back into its place. If that doesn't work you might have to replace that part? And be careful about playing any damaged or dirty records. That can seriously wreck your needle or, in this case, the tonearm. The tonearm??? Oof. Anyways, I think before I just go at it with a pair of pliers I'll look it up a bit, now that I know what the problem is... thank you for the input! I will be more careful, especially if I have to replace the cartridge. EDIT: A quick bit of research says "Your stylus is really bent" and "Use a toothpick, not pliers". Edited September 3, 2020 by dracodrago1330 vinyl addict 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghost Posted September 3, 2020 Share Posted September 3, 2020 3 minutes ago, dracodrago1330 said: The tonearm??? Oof. Anyways, I think before I just go at it with a pair of pliers I'll look it up a bit, now that I know what the problem is... thank you for the input! I will be more careful, especially if I have to replace the cartridge. EDIT: A quick bit of research says "Your stylus is really bent" and "Use a toothpick, not pliers". Sorry, not tonearm, not sure why I said that haha. I was watching something while writing this. Good luck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shelby Posted September 3, 2020 Share Posted September 3, 2020 You need a new stylus, once you adjust that one it'll probably just snap off. You also won't be able to get it perfectly straight anyways even if you don't break it off so you should still get a new one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
museummouth Posted September 3, 2020 Share Posted September 3, 2020 Yeah at that point you’re not going to fix it to a reasonable level. Get a new one. Plarocks 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unknown pleasures Posted September 3, 2020 Share Posted September 3, 2020 18 hours ago, dracodrago1330 said: I also acquired a noise record (a record that has been mutilated by someone to sound like, well, noise) from a friend and have tried to play it a few times. If you're looking for more noise records, I come across them all the time at Goodwill... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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