Shitty Rambo Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 https://www.yoursoundmatters.com/new-vinyl-quality-control-running-out-of-patience/ A bit nit-picky (I.E. the "color contamination" rant), but he's got a point. It feels like the price of records keeps going up but the quality of them keeps going down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
se7enstitches Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 Hot take: this person is picking mainstream records which have enormous pressing sizes and are bound to be fraught with imperfections because of that. I am not totally sure but a few of the ones he mentioned may have had pressings of 10k+. At this point what can you say? Listen to more obscure music? Buy limited editions with lower pressing numbers? Stop buying colored vinyl? Research the pressing plant before making a purchase? All of the above would probably improve buyer satisfaction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timsimmons Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 (edited) to be fair, a couple of the records he highlights are QRP audiophile grade pressings (Counting Crows and Norah Jones). QRP presses in smaller batches and swaps out stampers (in their most premier cases, every 1000 records). But also highlighting a RSD release at being $40 and getting that quality isn't the best example. I think artists and labels do need to put pressure on plants for better QC. We all know URP is the worst offender. EDIT: Just read his comments. he has a non-Analogue Pressing of Norah Jones. Edited September 9, 2020 by timsimmons Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rcafilm Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 Hang on... the "straw that broke the camel's back" for him is... a slight cosmetic imperfection in a colored record? Plarocks, CVHX, MCDELTAT and 3 others 3 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhulud Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 He lost all credibility with me when he bitched about the "color contamination" and the record not being pure yellow. Are you for fuckin' real?!?! I am sure that his local store loved dealing with his insufferable ass when he went to swap it out...someone with better snark and cynicism please play out the exchange on that day. whoa, Tommy, lexicondevil and 4 others 4 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CVHX Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 yeah its pretty damn funny that the "color contamination" is what caused him to write the article lmao. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyEnemy Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 7 minutes ago, jhulud said: someone with better snark and cynicism please play out the exchange on that day. Record Store Employees: “Fuck, it’s Marc again.” “You deal with him this time, I almost slapped him last time.” “Ugh, HEY Marc, what’s up.” Marc: “I’ve seen to come across a damage with this T Rex record from a couple weeks ago. See there, that little black spot. That’s not supposed to be there. It’s supposed to be ALL YELLOW.” RSE: *slaps* “Dude seriously, don’t come back.” Shelby, Plarocks and jhulud 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhulud Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 This....record...is not...100% YELLOW AS ADVERTISED!!!!! IT HAS A MINISCULE BLOTCH OF OTHER COLOR!!! WHAT IS THIS COLOR CONTAMINATION?!?! SaulManella, Plarocks and N8TRU 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No This Is Patrick Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 OU818, backpackoat, whoa and 12 others 4 1 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 Oh hi Marc hallowken78, MtrCtyWx, Plarocks and 2 others 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shelby Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 No Marc, vinyl prices are rising because yall are returning every record. Plarocks, museummouth, rcafilm and 1 other 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mertzrock Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 1 hour ago, timsimmons said: to be fair, a couple of the records he highlights are QRP audiophile grade pressings (Counting Crows and Norah Jones). QRP presses in smaller batches and swaps out stampers (in their most premier cases, every 1000 records). But also highlighting a RSD release at being $40 and getting that quality isn't the best example. I think artists and labels do need to put pressure on plants for better QC. We all know URP is the worst offender. EDIT: Just read his comments. he has a non-Analogue Pressing of Norah Jones. Tim, just so you’re aware...a set of stampers generally lasts about 800-1200 records...sometimes less even. This doesn’t change based on the pressing size. timsimmons 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev. Mike Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 But Hot Stampers are forever. Plarocks, smailtronic and somethingvinyl 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youspinmeround Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 1 minute ago, Rev. Mike said: But Hot Stampers are forever. Does that site/store still exist? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bjorn Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 The color contamination argument is of course asinine, but it's definitely true that quality control is well below what it should be for the majority of current pressings. Unfortunately the only way to improve it is to raise hell until those in charge of production get the message. I also think for those of us who err on the perfectionist/OCD side of the spectrum this issue can get blown out of proportion. You have to expect imperfections from this format. But when it comes to issues like non-fill, physical damage on new records, off-center spindle holes, or poor mastering we have to call that nonsense out, it's all preventable. I do feel bad for record stores and labels who have to deal with returns due to screw ups beyond their control, it's a tough gig as is. mertzrock 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
se7enstitches Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 33 minutes ago, bjorn said: it's a tough gig as is. .....highly debatable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OU818 Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 Soon I will be able to say I collected CDs before, after, and before they were cool Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bjorn Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 1 hour ago, se7enstitches said: .....highly debatable Are you saying that running and independent record store or label is not a tough gig? Maybe you have experience that I don't, but I wouldn't assume it's a cake walk. 9 minutes ago, OU818 said: Soon I will be able to say I collected CDs before, after, and before they were cool I've slowly started moving back in that direction. They're not half bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thetrackt Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 Why’s this posted on this section of the board? Shitty Rambo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shelby Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 (edited) 5 minutes ago, thetrackt said: Why’s this posted on this section of the board? Yeah why's this topic about vinyl in the vinyl section? Posted by a moderator no less... tsk tsk Edited September 9, 2020 by Shelby American Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek™ Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 4 hours ago, No This Is Patrick said: Just wanted to say thank you for helping to keep this alive and well. Sad Heart and se7enstitches 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timsimmons Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 are we certain it's the records? Billich0986, Plarocks, MyEnemy and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rcafilm Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 I guess I tend to buy somewhat more niche pressings, but I have never in my life encountered the bubbles he complained about and I have maybe one or two records that are ever so slightly off-center. I haven't returned a record in years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhulud Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 2 hours ago, Shelby American said: Yeah why's this topic about vinyl in the vinyl section? Posted by a moderator no less... tsk tsk What the fuck are you doing @Shitty Rambo?!?! Who do you think you are?!?! Shitty Rambo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shitty Rambo Posted September 9, 2020 Author Share Posted September 9, 2020 4 minutes ago, jhulud said: What the fuck are you doing @Shitty Rambo?!?! Who do you think you are?!?! The revolution is NOW! (pun very much intended, cause records spin) Plarocks 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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