axotyl Posted March 6, 2021 Share Posted March 6, 2021 or they simply forgot it and are trying to figure out if there is a way to include it now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcpherson123 Posted March 6, 2021 Share Posted March 6, 2021 How, in the name of all that is fucking holy, do they manage to shit out a completely wasted LP that has the same garbage heap of nothingness and flaming rubbish that is "Mr. Muggs" on BOTH of its sides but they overlooked one of the most crucial and band/management feud starting songs that was wildly hyped by the band themselves prior to the release of the album Frances The Mute AND ITS THE TITULAR TRACK OF THAT WHOLE MONSTROSITY OF AN ALBUM? Bro... I really wonder what we are in for in terms of explanation here. Maybe they should have consulted fans about their own catalog before doing this. Like, why in the hell is "Mr. Muggs" even in this set? It only served the purpose of being SOME kind of sound that could be needlessly pressed into the gimmicky planchette that no one used to actually play with the ouija in the gatefold of Bedlam. I'm sure Omar would insist that its far more significant than that but we all know that's a lie. Skacel 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcpherson123 Posted March 6, 2021 Share Posted March 6, 2021 This could have made things really easy. And then you'd have Cassandra on two sides of one disc. A1 Frances The Mute B1 Gygnus....Vismund Cygnus B2 The Widow C1 L'Via L'Viaquez D1 Miranda, That Ghost Just Ain't Holy Anymore E1 Cassandra Gemini Pt. 1 (First half) F1 Cassandra Gemini Pt. 2 (Second half) daegor, axotyl, Fowty Dollaz and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejc625 Posted March 6, 2021 Share Posted March 6, 2021 Preordered a copy through Rough Trade. Feel good and awful about it at the same time. Multiverse and mcpherson123 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fowty Dollaz Posted March 6, 2021 Share Posted March 6, 2021 54 minutes ago, mcpherson123 said: This could have made things really easy. And then you'd have Cassandra on two sides of one disc. A1 Frances The Mute B1 Gygnus....Vismund Cygnus B2 The Widow C1 L'Via L'Viaquez D1 Miranda, That Ghost Just Ain't Holy Anymore E1 Cassandra Gemini Pt. 1 (First half) F1 Cassandra Gemini Pt. 2 (Second half) Mcpherson, you are a problem solver, and I appreciate you. I just wish they did this. We all know it's not included and won't be. 😟 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scruffy...the janitor Posted March 6, 2021 Share Posted March 6, 2021 1700 boxes going out to retail. Do we think CH will make the potential individual releases available before or after the April release date? Speculate away! Velocity of Sound 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcpherson123 Posted March 6, 2021 Share Posted March 6, 2021 2 minutes ago, Fowty Dollaz said: Mcpherson, you are a problem solver, and I appreciate you. I just wish they did this. We all know it's not included and won't be. 😟 Yeah, its a fucking shame. I just don't know how you fuck up the re-release of your own catalog this badly. I mean, all those etched sides and 2 sides of dogshit. I just can't. Fowty Dollaz 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shelby Posted March 6, 2021 Share Posted March 6, 2021 At least this means the last album probably has the 3D glasses! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larshj Posted March 6, 2021 Share Posted March 6, 2021 (edited) Some excerpts from an interview: https://www.spin.com/2021/03/mars-volta-vinyl-realidad-suenos/?fbclid=IwAR3MuaWI-motNXqF26zTQW2N0E2FGNzbHJzUnBOTlJotllCEx6wvzT7tgqg I can't figure out if the band have full rights to re-release the albums or they just cut a deal for a certain amount (ie. only the 5000 boxsets). Nonetheless it must be tough to have such resent for their label since the initial release of their debut nearly 20 years ago and up untill now. Sounds like they have quite a problem with it and have a hard time getting on with their life/music instead. Edited March 6, 2021 by larshj Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejc625 Posted March 6, 2021 Share Posted March 6, 2021 (edited) I actually placed an order through Amazon UK. £45 price difference after shipping compared to Rough Trade. La Realidad De Los Suenos [VINYL] https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B08Y4GYKM8/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_fabc_6TJXCCWVX16EVTB3Z09B?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1 Edited March 6, 2021 by ejc625 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sugareggs Posted March 6, 2021 Share Posted March 6, 2021 Just preordered from 123Go. FOMO in full effect. I caved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kannibal Posted March 6, 2021 Share Posted March 6, 2021 6 hours ago, craigeduk said: Yep, if they can't confirm it at this point its either (A) No it won't be included but we don't want to come and flat out admit so as it will piss lots of people off, or (B) We haven't agreed all the final details including tracklisting so we will be nowhere near ready to ship until July/August! Or, it’s a surprise? Maybe? No? I believe in fairies? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejc625 Posted March 7, 2021 Share Posted March 7, 2021 6 hours ago, ejc625 said: I actually placed an order through Amazon UK. £45 price difference after shipping compared to Rough Trade. La Realidad De Los Suenos [VINYL] https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B08Y4GYKM8/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_fabc_6TJXCCWVX16EVTB3Z09B?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1 Looks like Amazon raised the price from £376 to £413. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MayCauseDeath Posted March 7, 2021 Share Posted March 7, 2021 12 hours ago, mcpherson123 said: Yeah, its a fucking shame. I just don't know how you fuck up the re-release of your own catalog this badly. I mean, all those etched sides and 2 sides of dogshit. I just can't. I for one don’t care for etchings in any way shape or form. It’s definitely not a selling point in my mind, I would rather have a blank side than have a price increase for an etching I will never look at for more than a second to see what side the music is on. ringo_0, kannibal, CeCeCe and 3 others 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youspinmeround Posted March 7, 2021 Share Posted March 7, 2021 13 hours ago, ejc625 said: Looks like Amazon raised the price from £376 to £413. No way amazon is able to fill all orders Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejc625 Posted March 7, 2021 Share Posted March 7, 2021 La Realidad De Los Suenos https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08Y4GYKM8/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_AQDMZ0BEX4JPCJZ8FVMP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shelby Posted March 7, 2021 Share Posted March 7, 2021 So that Amazon tracklist can't be trusted now that I think about it. If it is, then Mr. Muggs doesn't count as one of the discs. Tremulant - 1 De-Loused - 2 Francis - 3 Amputechture - 2 Bedlam - 2 Octahedron - 2 Noctourniquet - 2 De-Loused Demos - 2 Eunuch - 1 Plague - 1 = 18 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dantheriver Posted March 7, 2021 Share Posted March 7, 2021 I like myself a lot more after buying this with hotel points via Amazon instead of using real money. kjkenney, Shelby and OU818 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fowty Dollaz Posted March 7, 2021 Share Posted March 7, 2021 6 minutes ago, dantheriver said: I like myself a lot more after buying this with hotel points via Amazon instead of using real money. Smart! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justinadamk Posted March 7, 2021 Share Posted March 7, 2021 20 hours ago, kannibal said: Or, it’s a surprise? Maybe? No? I believe in fairies? I think you guys are referring to this track - and according to the CH twitter account, it doesn't sound like it will be there based on this thread Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CeCeCe Posted March 7, 2021 Share Posted March 7, 2021 (edited) 50 minutes ago, Your Ex-Wife said: So that Amazon tracklist can't be trusted now that I think about it. If it is, then Mr. Muggs doesn't count as one of the discs. Tremulant - 1 De-Loused - 2 Francis - 3 Amputechture - 2 Bedlam - 2 Octahedron - 2 Noctourniquet - 2 De-Loused Demos - 2 Eunuch - 1 Plague - 1 = 18 The track list is correct on Amazon. Same as the one I posted on the previous page. De-loused demos is 1 disc (discs 3 & 4 on Amazon as they always insist on listing each side as an individual disc). Edited March 7, 2021 by craigeduk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shelby Posted March 7, 2021 Share Posted March 7, 2021 1 hour ago, craigeduk said: The track list is correct on Amazon. Same as the one I posted on the previous page. De-loused demos is 1 disc (discs 3 & 4 on Amazon as they always insist on listing each side as an individual disc). So Cassandra Gemini is on one side now instead of two? It seems like they had to license these so I guess it makes sense if FtM ends up being released the same way. Lame as it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CeCeCe Posted March 7, 2021 Share Posted March 7, 2021 35 minutes ago, Your Ex-Wife said: So Cassandra Gemini is on one side now instead of two? No think its still sides D & E of that LP but for some reason the song tiles released by the distributor to stores for listings has called side E Tarantism. Basically its just exactly the same as the 2lp + single sided lp version https://www.discogs.com/The-Mars-Volta-Frances-The-Mute/release/447805 Should really have advertised the set as 14xLP, 3 x single sided LP, 1 double sided 7" Shelby 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kannibal Posted March 7, 2021 Share Posted March 7, 2021 (edited) 5 hours ago, Justinadamk said: I think you guys are referring to this track - and according to the CH twitter account, it doesn't sound like it will be there based on this thread That is a terrible excuse for this oversight, but I guess there’s the answer. No, it is NOT included in this set that supposedly “contains the band's whole studio discography.” i wasn’t going to ask a question that can’t be answered, but I can’t help myself. How is the song FTM, not apart of the story of the album FTM? I thought the story at the time of album release was that the song was removed from the album solely for time constraints so it would fit on one CD. It literally fades out with exactly the same music that the first song on the album fades in with, but is “not part of the story.” Okay. Edited March 7, 2021 by kannibal chrisapple, mcpherson123 and Multiverse 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OU818 Posted March 8, 2021 Share Posted March 8, 2021 I don't want to believe that Mr. Muggs was added over Frances and Concertina but that would the most Mars Volta move of all time. Can't even be mad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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