mcpherson123 Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 On 2/1/2022 at 7:18 PM, BuzzersonKillwell said: I hope it’s expensive records that seem exclusive followed by better versions in cheaper configurations later. What was better about the later versions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dantheriver Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 4 minutes ago, mcpherson123 said: What was better about the later versions? Original reissues were all overpriced black vinyl. Later they released colored versions via other retailers for more reasonable prices. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcpherson123 Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 1 minute ago, dantheriver said: Original reissues were all overpriced black vinyl. Later they released colored versions via other retailers for more reasonable prices. I'm aware of all that but what was actually "better" about them other than the prices? throwgncpr 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Multiverse Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 9 minutes ago, mcpherson123 said: What was better about the later versions? I still haven't upgraded my booty ass VMP De-Loused, even though they've sent me like 3 still nervous about their other releases but hoping with a different plant they'll be better quality mcpherson123 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcpherson123 Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 Just now, Multiverse said: I still haven't upgraded my booty ass VMP De-Loused, even though they've sent me like 3 still nervous about their other releases but hoping with a different plant they'll be better quality Yeah, it seems like the VMP Deloused had SERIOUS quality control issues. I don't think I've even listened all the way through to my CH box Deloused yet. Played side A for sure. That sounded great. The only one I've actually played from start to finish is FTM. It sounds fantastic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek™ Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 9 minutes ago, mcpherson123 said: I'm aware of all that but what was actually "better" about them other than the prices? The additional visual stimulation at no sacrifice to sound quality. Shelby 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
throwgncpr Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 6 minutes ago, Derek™ said: The additional visual stimulation at no sacrifice to sound quality. subjective. Many color presses look worse than a nice black copy, imo. mcpherson123 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcpherson123 Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 Just now, Derek™ said: The additional visual stimulation at no sacrifice to sound quality. I mean, I guess. I don't want to get too hung up on a single word "better" but that's really just "variation" to me. And other than the colored US variants of Landscape Tantrums and I think the colored variant of Tremulant, the prices direct from CH USA shop and the retail prices in the brick and mortar in the US are only a few dollars apart based on what I'm seeing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcpherson123 Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 1 minute ago, throwgncpr said: subjective. Many color presses look worse than a nice black copy, imo. Real TALK! And I'm not just saying that because I'm all about black vinyl across the board. Some colors admittedly look really pretty but I'll still get black if that's an option. But some colors look like a dumpster fire. throwgncpr and Gilderoy 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shelby Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 5 minutes ago, mcpherson123 said: Real TALK! And I'm not just saying that because I'm all about black vinyl across the board. Some colors admittedly look really pretty but I'll still get black if that's an option. But some colors look like a dumpster fire. I bet if a variant was called "dumpster fire" it'd look pretty badass. Bronchitis, scarfaceclaw and throwgncpr 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcpherson123 Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Mr.Scorpio said: I bet if a variant was called "dumpster fire" it'd look pretty badass. Maybe. I'm imagining green, brown, beige, red, orange and yellow. I'd like to see those get mixed in a way that didn't look like jungle juice and pizza vomit. Edited February 3, 2022 by mcpherson123 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek™ Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 3 minutes ago, throwgncpr said: subjective. Many color presses look worse than a nice black copy, imo. Oh yeah, 100%. But I was under the impression that these Mars Volta records were the only ones in scope of the discussion. I'll opt for a black press if a variant is truly an eyesore or just nonsensical splatter trash. But I don't think that's been the case for these TMV colorways. 2 minutes ago, mcpherson123 said: I mean, I guess. I don't want to get too hung up on a single word "better" but that's really just "variation" to me. Right. We've all had that color vs. black vinyl discussion countless times, over the years. I hadn't assumed your stance on that had changed. I do get that it's all subjective. But just glancing at sale prices for virtually every record out there that has a limited colored edition, it's pretty easy to see why it's classified as a perk. Always the best looking option? – nope. Always the best sounding option? – no, even less often. It just seems kind of silly to goad Dan into spelling out that color vinyl is a bonus – to him, subjectively, and many others – when you knew that was exactly what he was getting at. 🤷♂️ kannibal 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dantheriver Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 1 minute ago, Derek™ said: Oh yeah, 100%. But I was under the impression that these Mars Volta records were the only ones in scope of the discussion. I'll opt for a black press if a variant is truly an eyesore or just nonsensical splatter trash. But I don't think that's been the case for these TMV colorways. Right. We've all had that color vs. black vinyl discussion countless times, over the years. I hadn't assumed your stance on that had changed. I do get that it's all subjective. But just glancing at sale prices for virtually every record out there that has a limited colored edition, it's pretty easy to see why it's classified as a perk. Always the best looking option? – nope. Always the best sounding option? – no, even less often. It just seems kind of silly to goad Dan into spelling out that color vinyl is a bonus – to him, subjectively, and many others – when you knew that was exactly what he was getting at. 🤷♂️ To be clear I have the black over priced ones and didn’t cry over the additional variants released later. This shit happens all the time so there’s no point in whining over it. I was just sticking my nose in somebody else’s business and answering the question the way I assumed they meant “cheaper and better” or whatever the original post that mcp was questioning. kannibal 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek™ Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 Yeah, I wouldn't necessarily have used the word "better" to compare black vs. colored copies. Maybe "more desirable" – which I get is 100% subjective – but just kind of a given when you look at how vinyl releases work. There's a reason CH made black copies available way before any colored ones. kannibal 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcpherson123 Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 9 minutes ago, Derek™ said: Oh yeah, 100%. But I was under the impression that these Mars Volta records were the only ones in scope of the discussion. I'll opt for a black press if a variant is truly an eyesore or just nonsensical splatter trash. But I don't think that's been the case for these TMV colorways. Right. We've all had that color vs. black vinyl discussion countless times, over the years. I hadn't assumed your stance on that had changed. I do get that it's all subjective. But just glancing at sale prices for virtually every record out there that has a limited colored edition, it's pretty easy to see why it's classified as a perk. Always the best looking option? – nope. Always the best sounding option? – no, even less often. It just seems kind of silly to goad Dan into spelling out that color vinyl is a bonus – to him, subjectively, and many others – when you knew that was exactly what he was getting at. 🤷♂️ Honestly, I really didn't understand that "better" was being used to describe the color variation. I literally thought there was something I was missing about them beyond anything visual. kannibal 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
throwgncpr Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 I didn't mean to help dredge up another black vs. color debate. It's a tired argument. I don't really care what people like/purchase. I wish there were always a black copy available, but I realize this is a weird/fickle industry. I did think that McPherson was genuinely curious about audio issues. 34 pages in and I can't remember exactly, but I thought there were some pressing issues with one or more of these releases at some point in the discussion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek™ Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 Gotcha'. Well, my bad if McPherson was genuinely perplexed on whether or not the indie versions [variants] contained additional content, packaging, etc. With the way CH prices their shit, I feel like adding liner notes or prints to colored editions would automatically spike the price up like $10-$15 at Bull Moose, Zia, and so on. To my knowledge, it was only really the VMP De-Loused that got shafted on the quality front. I'm pretty sure I've only heard great things about CH's black copies. Even the indie variants that feature glow in the dark LPs allegedly sound great. mcpherson123 and kannibal 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
throwgncpr Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 4 minutes ago, Derek™ said: Even the indie variants that feature glow in the dark LPs allegedly sound great. ha! I'm going to pass on any glow-in-the-dark records, and I would be highly suspicious of any positive review unless it was from someone I trusted. There are all kinds of glowing reviews for crappy bootlegs and awful sounding records on Discogs... I still haven't picked any of these up. I would love to grab Tremulant/De-Louse/Frances at some point, but the prices and the way they are trickling out variants are enough to make me lose any motivation. mcpherson123 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuzzersonKillwell Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 I was referring to the color, but really I was being hyperbolic about that color variants being “better” because it make the joke funnier in my opinion. totally subjective. mcpherson123 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Multiverse Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 I still regret not buying the box from Tower at $300 tbh mcpherson123 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcpherson123 Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 For the record (pun both intended and not intended), I find every copy of these LP's to be overpriced. Even the Tremulant and LS available in the States are still too expensive for the amount of content but are at least relatively affordable. I know I paid too much for my box but I actually got a really good deal on Towerrecords.com. They had it for significantly cheaper than most other outlets. Sold out super fast though. I got so lucky my order went through. throwgncpr 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcpherson123 Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 1 minute ago, Multiverse said: I still regret not buying the box from Tower at $300 tbh HA! I was writing my last post as this quote from you was being posted. Yeah, man. I didn't mean to rub salt in that wound. I'm sorry you slept on it. I'm really glad I got mine but I'm super sorry you have that regret. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CeCeCe Posted February 7, 2022 Share Posted February 7, 2022 Tremulant on Clear vinyl (UK Link) https://www.resident-music.com/productdetails&product_id=87288 mcpherson123 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faucet Posted February 8, 2022 Share Posted February 8, 2022 On 2/2/2022 at 9:45 AM, ejc625 said: Have they released or announced a colored variant of Octahedron yet? https://www.bullmoose.com/p/35370029/the-mars-volta-octahedron-red-transparent-curacao-transparent-vinyl ejc625 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoublesGuy Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 (edited) Anyone get the Bedlam in Goliath? Which variant and how's the pressing quality? Edited February 12, 2022 by DoublesGuy Nobody reads my posts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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