ParallelofDeath Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 34 minutes ago, JohnMatrix said: Its a good record that I never owned on vinyl back in the day. People still like this stuff. You could ask why people are still buying thousands of records from bands from the 70s or 80s too. Some things stand up and to me Opposite of December of Tear From the Red stand up 20 + years later. Not that hard to really wrap your mind around That was not my point. Obviously they're good and people still like them, duh. But did PTW sell 2k records in 6 hours in 2002? No. Probably not even close. You could walk down to your local record store whenever and pick up a copy. They were a good band among hundreds of good bands. So, without taking anything away from them or their fans (and I'm one of them), I think it is astonishing to see how PTW and a number of other bands from that era are now able to enjoy these almost instant sell-outs of 20-year-old records. Good for them! Pent-up demand is a huge factor, but of course internet hype and flippers are another. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGhostOfRandySavage Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 27 minutes ago, ParallelofDeath said: That was not my point. Obviously they're good and people still like them, duh. But did PTW sell 2k records in 6 hours in 2002? No. Probably not even close. You could walk down to your local record store whenever and pick up a copy. They were a good band among hundreds of good bands. So, without taking anything away from them or their fans (and I'm one of them), I think it is astonishing to see how PTW and a number of other bands from that era are now able to enjoy these almost instant sell-outs of 20-year-old records. Good for them! Pent-up demand is a huge factor, but of course internet hype and flippers are another. I think a lot of it has to do with vinyl demand too though. A ton of people on this board probably were at the latest in HS in 2002 and a bunch weren't even born. Demand for vinyl back then was crazy low too. It's a combo of more people enjoying a solid band from the era and an increase in vinyl's popularity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeJoe Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 I made $7.25 an hour (CAD) part time my first job. I wasn't about to start collecting records. Most early/Mid 2000s hardcore/metalcore had a fanbase that was broke ass kids. 15$ on a CD that I can bring anywhere was a no brainer. I wasn't going to buy CDs and vinyl at that age. Its not surprising that 15/20 years later we want to own these records when money is less of an issue (generally). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParallelofDeath Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 True, that was definitely a factor for me too back then. Many of my all-time favorite records I only bought on CD when they first came out, if I bought them at all. Followed by years of regrets lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hallowken78 Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 True story - Tear from the Red was the 1st record I ever bought. Pretty sure it was at Skate and Surf in 2002. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chogmatron Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 Yeah I bought this on vinyl when it was originally pressed and it was several months after release and readily available for some time if I recall. Vinyl demand just wasn’t there at the time. It might just be me but opposite of December has aged terribly. Loved it back in the day but can’t listen to it at all now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnMatrix Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 Yep I am in the same boat that A) I couldn't really afford vinyl in my 20s so I didn't really get into it until I was about 30 and B ) I just downloaded and burned CDs at that time in my life because I couldn't afford to buy things and because I wanted to be able to listen to things in my car or at my friends houses. Now that money is no issue for me and I spend more time at home I like to have everything on vinyl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2notepockets Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, chogmatron said: Yeah I bought this on vinyl when it was originally pressed and it was several months after release and readily available for some time if I recall. Vinyl demand just wasn’t there at the time. It might just be me but opposite of December has aged terribly. Loved it back in the day but can’t listen to it at all now. Records were non existent to me back then, I spent all my cash on cd's... when PTW were in their pomp I couldn't have bought any of their albums from a store in any format where I live... I paid $40 Australian to get Opposite of December imported on cd by a store lol It is still their best album imo... I still don't really get people who buy all the variants though, remasters yes, and/or different pressings where sound quality may vary but of the same pressing? one to listen to is surely enough maybe different formats for portability... Edited March 30, 2022 by 2notepockets Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParallelofDeath Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 I guess I'm on the other end of the spectrum, in that I like Opposite as much as ever (the riffs! the epic breakdowns! the tastefully minimalistic songwriting! no clean singing!) and can't get into anything past Tear. I feel like there was a real fork in the road around Y2K where you either stayed with the bands that increasingly used clean vocals or you looked for your heavy music fix elsewhere. I was definitely in the latter camp, due to youthful thickheadedness but also because to me a lot of the singing sounded very generic and predictable (and still does). phillybhatesme 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnMatrix Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 Opposite is the best record to me for sure. I don't like anything after Tear from the Red tipyourbartender 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeJoe Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 I agree that Opposite is their best work. Its just iconic. but I also think You come before you is amazing. I really couldn't get into Versions and by the time tropic rot came out I just wasn't following them anymore, but I do have a suspicion that I might dig that record from the little I've heard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mootloot Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 I have to agree with Parallel here. I actually bought the Opposite/Red split from someone here on the boards a few years back for $20 but it was my only way of getting Opposite at a decent price. 2 hours ago, ParallelofDeath said: I feel like there was a real fork in the road around Y2K where you either stayed with the bands that increasingly used clean vocals or you looked for your heavy music fix elsewhere. I was definitely in the latter camp, due to youthful thickheadedness but also because to me a lot of the singing sounded very generic and predictable (and still does). This!!! I even remember thinking Converge went to soft on No Heros. I ended up getting into noise and power electronics because I needed more intense music. Eh we live and learn lol phillybhatesme 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejc625 Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 One of the splatter copies went back up for sale so I was able to snag one of those. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awalkingwounded Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 3 hours ago, redroom said: What was wrong from with the Ides of March one? I’d like to know as well because my copy from Ides of March sounds just fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillybhatesme Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 50 minutes ago, ejc625 said: One of the splatter copies went back up for sale so I was able to snag one of those. Lucky. I guess I’ll add myself to notifications. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejc625 Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 21 minutes ago, phillybhatesme said: Lucky. I guess I’ll add myself to notifications. Make sure you do the text notifications so you get it quicker. phillybhatesme 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1876records Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 6 hours ago, redroom said: What was wrong with the Ides of March one? my clear gold copy sounds awful. tons of pops and clicks. you can tell it’s in decent shape with no scratches or scuffs, but just sounds so cheap. I did a sound comparison between that copy and the Good Life picture disc from Belgium and the pic disc sounds infinitely better, although it has weak packaging (polybag & insert). this Federal Prisoner release will solve both issues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
januarytwenty Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 Signed up for text notifications and got a text this morning at 3:30A that it was available. Ended up getting the splatter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillybhatesme Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 Just saw I had a text from 430am. Glad you got. No more by the time I checked (2 hours later lol) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INRIhab Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 (edited) Just got a text! Have at it! https://federalprisoner.shop/products/poison-the-well-tear-from-the-red-clear-w-black-center-lp-edition-of-500?bis_id=em5JLPz&utm_campaign=stock-notification&utm_content=POISON+THE+WELL+'TEAR+FROM+THE+RED'+CLEAR+W%2F+BLACK+CENTER+LP+-+EDITION+OF+500&utm_medium=sms&utm_source=back-in-stock&variant=41750410231969 Edited April 4, 2022 by INRIhab Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INRIhab Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 (edited) 4 hours ago, phillybhatesme said: Just saw I had a text from 430am. Glad you got. No more by the time I checked (2 hours later lol) https://federalprisoner.shop/products/poison-the-well-tear-from-the-red-clear-w-black-center-lp-edition-of-500?bis_id=em5JLPz&utm_campaign=stock-notification&utm_content=POISON+THE+WELL+'TEAR+FROM+THE+RED'+CLEAR+W%2F+BLACK+CENTER+LP+-+EDITION+OF+500&utm_medium=sms&utm_source=back-in-stock&variant=41750410231969 If you see this! Edit: Gone in about a minite Edited April 4, 2022 by INRIhab phillybhatesme 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillybhatesme Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 Dude thank you. I got a text earlier too but got stuck creating an account during checkout hahaha. INRIhab 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillybhatesme Posted April 6, 2022 Share Posted April 6, 2022 Just got text notification for the split variant. I was able to snag one, looks like they're still for sale if anyone else wants - https://federalprisoner.shop/products/poison-the-well-tear-from-the-red-red-burnt-yellow-split-lp-edition-of-1000 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillybhatesme Posted April 6, 2022 Share Posted April 6, 2022 With that being said, that's my third choice for this album, so I wonder if I should have held off for one of the other two variants hahaha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deathbyart Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 Info on Greg's instagram - Second round of preorders going up 10am EST Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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