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1 hour ago, harryq said:

I think you're better off not knowing.  Lindemann's (Till's side band) first album, Skills in Pills, is all in English, and -- as far as I'm concerned -- it's unlistenable.  Their second album, F&M, is all in German, and it's night-and-day.

In any case, like some others, I have the boxset they put out in 2015(?), but I'm glad they're finally making this available separately.

i second this suggestion lol. honestly just listen to "skills in pills" if you want an english-language sense of his very limited lyrical focus and prowess. it's the same MO – lots of childish sex humor, flaccid attempts at shock, and the occasional, semi-insightful sociopolitically-minded changeup. absolutely not to hate or anything, because sometimes the music + lyrics combos pays off nicely (Benzin and Amerika are two pretty great examples of this latter mode of writing that I still treasure). but only sometimes :D

 

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10 hours ago, xfactor675 said:

Yeah sorry for having an opinion that is not matching yours... Enjoy Rammstein while you don't understand a word and you get artificial cum on you in the crowd. Everyone is different, take care.

I mean, I had fun getting covered in foam and dried off with heat from flamethrowers. 🤷🏼‍♂️

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6 hours ago, andrewlucas said:

I mean, I had fun getting covered in foam and dried off with heat from flamethrowers. 🤷🏼‍♂️

Yup! I was lucky enough to be close enough on their 2011 and 2012 USA tours to experience this as well, and it had been a dream of mine to finally see a full live show after they were arrested mid-performance the first time I saw them in 1998!

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5 hours ago, Kyte30351 said:

Yup! I was lucky enough to be close enough on their 2011 and 2012 USA tours to experience this as well, and it had been a dream of mine to finally see a full live show after they were arrested mid-performance the first time I saw them in 1998!

Why were they arrested?

 

Yeah it was an amazing show. I feel like Till has some experience doing vaudeville or some sort of mime school. Very entertaining. Yeah maybe the lyrics translated are a little whatever but you can’t deny the mood that the songs create.

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I do not understand how one can possibly hate Rammstein.

They are whole package. Music, music videos, overall style, concerts...everything is on absolutely phenomenal level.

The production of everything is just...*chef's kiss.

Lyrics perfectly balances between dramatic, imaginative, serious and downright silly. But it's not bad, its charming like the fact that band seemingly has no "frontman"(Lindemann's not always front and center and every band member has his moment to shine).

And vinyl? Damn! The quality of materials and printing, the attention to details on gatefold and THE sound of records is just so good you just can't put the thing down. After collecting 600+ records Mutter reopened my eyes to the fact how great vinyl collecting may be.

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18 hours ago, andrewlucas said:

Why were they arrested?

Alleged indecent exposure. 'Twas Halloween 1998, also the final show of the inaugural Family Values tour, and I'm pretty sure every band had some kinda costume on. The band also talks a little about it on the Madison Square Garden Blu-ray in the Rammstein in Amerika documentary feature.

 

But allegedly Till's wiener popped out of the gaff tape he had over his privates, and after only four songs they were done.

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  • 1 month later...

Who would have expected this from this trash of man? 🤔

https://www.dw.com/en/fans-drugged-assaulted-new-accusations-against-rammsteins-till-lindemann/a-65772206

Also interesting that what did these women expect from this openly pervert, famous man? A romantic date at an after show vip party?   also funny they only realise the abuse after he got bored of them and the vip privilige care package ended... people are soo weird.

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59 minutes ago, xfactor675 said:

Who would have expected this from this trash of man? 🤔

https://www.dw.com/en/fans-drugged-assaulted-new-accusations-against-rammsteins-till-lindemann/a-65772206

Also interesting that what did these women expect from this openly pervert, famous man? A romantic date at an after show vip party?   also funny they only realise the abuse after he got bored of them and the vip privilige care package ended... people are soo weird.

Dude chill out. Even Till's ex has come out in support of him. I don't say that he's not involved in some raunchy behaviour - because he certainly is - but I think the Johnny Depp trial should have really set a precident to wait for actual proof before completely destroying someones carreer or even life over allegations from some potentially attention-seeking semi-psychos like Amber Turd.

Just look at the book publisher that released his poetry books. They have just cut ties with him and wrote that it has come to their attention that he featured the book they published in a porn film he shot as a music video. You mean to tell me that they have just found out NOW? Like, 3 years later? Give me a break. They made money with him as long as they could and are now trying to save themselves. Absolutely pathetic. If you want to talk about "enabling" weird behaviour by money-makers these companies should be dragged before a jury first in a case like that. At the end of the day, Till is a rockstar, and the singer of Rammstein at that. So what do people expect? There are even videos out there (from this year) of groupies dressed like russian hookers lining up before the barricade in front of the stage and signing "paperwork" on a smartphone before being let backstage. It's just how it is, they're not being dragged backstage, they're going because they want to. Till has a reptuation and they all know it.

I don't know. I'm actually suprised that it took this long for people to come after that band after the whole me too campaign a few years ago. In the end, Rammstein have been in the critical eye of the ignorant public and the press ever since they started in the mid 90s. They will not go anywhere, and that's a good thing.

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16 minutes ago, Vega said:

Dude chill out. Even Till's ex has come out in support of him. I don't say that he's not involved in some raunchy behaviour - because he certainly is - but I think the Johnny Depp trial should have really set a precident to wait for actual proof before completely destroying someones carreer or even life over allegations from some potentially attention-seeking semi-psychos like Amber Turd.

Just look at the book publisher that released his poetry books. They have just cut ties with him and wrote that it has come to their attention that he featured the book they published in a porn film he shot as a music video. You mean to tell me that they have just found out NOW? Like, 3 years later? Give me a break. They made money with him as long as they could and are now trying to save themselves. Absolutely pathetic. If you want to talk about "enabling" weird behaviour by money-makers these companies should be dragged before a jury first in a case like that. At the end of the day, Till is a rockstar, and the singer of Rammstein at that. So what do people expect? There are even videos out there (from this year) of groupies dressed like russian hookers lining up before the barricade in front of the stage and signing "paperwork" on a smartphone before being let backstage. It's just how it is, they're not being dragged backstage, they're going because they want to. Till has a reptuation and they all know it.

I don't know. I'm actually suprised that it took this long for people to come after that band after the whole me too campaign a few years ago. In the end, Rammstein have been in the critical eye of the ignorant public and the press ever since they started in the mid 90s. They will not go anywhere, and that's a good thing.

I have never said that I believe the accusations the moment of it's surfacing especially because a thing like this ruined one of my favorite bands brand new. I just said that I'm not shocked that he is into something like this is as obvious as the sun sets west, the thing I don't understand in this situation are the women involved, why they didn't say no at the time, why they come out years after the incident when he didn't care for them anymore. Also, what did they expect from a man whose band has giant dildos on stage, he must be shy around women...

Also I don't think these kinda things could ever settle at court properly after multiple years it occured.

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20 hours ago, Vega said:

Dude chill out. Even Till's ex has come out in support of him. I don't say that he's not involved in some raunchy behaviour - because he certainly is - but I think the Johnny Depp trial should have really set a precident to wait for actual proof before completely destroying someones carreer or even life over allegations from some potentially attention-seeking semi-psychos like Amber Turd.

Just look at the book publisher that released his poetry books. They have just cut ties with him and wrote that it has come to their attention that he featured the book they published in a porn film he shot as a music video. You mean to tell me that they have just found out NOW? Like, 3 years later? Give me a break. They made money with him as long as they could and are now trying to save themselves. Absolutely pathetic. If you want to talk about "enabling" weird behaviour by money-makers these companies should be dragged before a jury first in a case like that. At the end of the day, Till is a rockstar, and the singer of Rammstein at that. So what do people expect? There are even videos out there (from this year) of groupies dressed like russian hookers lining up before the barricade in front of the stage and signing "paperwork" on a smartphone before being let backstage. It's just how it is, they're not being dragged backstage, they're going because they want to. Till has a reptuation and they all know it.

I don't know. I'm actually suprised that it took this long for people to come after that band after the whole me too campaign a few years ago. In the end, Rammstein have been in the critical eye of the ignorant public and the press ever since they started in the mid 90s. They will not go anywhere, and that's a good thing.

a truly insane fanboy take, i'd expect nothing less from you tbh. just so we're all clear here, wanting to go backstage ≠ consenting to sexual acts. suggesting anything else is truly disgusting dude.

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9 hours ago, copelandkid said:

a truly insane fanboy take, i'd expect nothing less from you tbh. just so we're all clear here, wanting to go backstage ≠ consenting to sexual acts. suggesting anything else is truly disgusting dude.

Waidaminute. Sensible human being went to a party hosted by rockstars fueled with alcohol, drugs and then something went wrong? Booo fucking hoo. Oh by the way there is no accusation no rape this time. What a shame. Anyway #cancellindemann 

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23 hours ago, copelandkid said:

a truly insane fanboy take, i'd expect nothing less from you tbh. just so we're all clear here, wanting to go backstage ≠ consenting to sexual acts. suggesting anything else is truly disgusting dude.

You'd expect nothing else from me "thb"? Because we know each other so well, right? 🤣  You're a real cookie. Watch the videos that are on youtube of the "fangirls", or more accurately groupies, lining up in front of the stage. These girls do not just want to "go backstage" - them wearing top tier hooker clothes and consenting to whatever on a pdf form on an iphone given to them in front of everybody kind of gives that away. You don't seem to realise that there are some people out there who genuinely just want to fuck rockstars, right? Especially Till - that guy has a certain reputation. So add 2 and 2 together: Lining up in hooker clothes to go backstage to see Till Lindemann. Mhhh, I'm sure they just want to see how the pyro technics work! These girls go there on their own consent and some girls have since these accusations come out and said that if they didn't want to do anything with Till he was totally fine with it. I don't know why people like you are always so fast and get this weird hard-on when instantly getting the chance to end someone's carreer or even ruin someone's life. Ironically, it's a fascist method and you probably don't even realise it. Not caring about actual burden-of-proof is only one sign of that. So congrats to you for being "truly disgusting dude".

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38 minutes ago, Vega said:

You'd expect nothing else from me "thb"? Because we know each other so well, right?

i don't have to (and nor would i ever want to) "know" you, you've shown your ass on here before on this same issue lmfao. you blame the victims and dickride mediocre rockstars, willing to excuse real harm and abuse of power because you clearly despise women, who are just "groupies" or "hookers" to you. if you were intelligent enough to, you'd have some shame and keep your mouth shut on these issues. but since you and all the other mouthbreathing rape apologists on here are not, i'm more than happy to put you in your place.

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17 hours ago, prowl20 said:

So they had it coming? Got'cha!

I didn't say that. We have tons of news articles, movies, documentary programs, books from like 1950s that depict these "parties"  and how often everything there goes south. You simply cannot be uninformed about this kind of stuff. And yet people still go there expecting "fun time without consequences" and when OBVIOUSLY something bad happens AGAIN we AGAIN have this kind of debate. 

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