rickker Posted May 18 Share Posted May 18 Originally released May 20, 2003. Fourth studio album. Limited Edition Ruby Red Translucent Vinyl https://shopdeftones.com/collections/deftones-self-titled-20th-anniversary-collection/products/deftones-20th-anniversary-limited-edition-ruby-red-translucent-vinyl Han Solo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xfactor675 Posted May 18 Share Posted May 18 (edited) Labels/bands take note, this is how you do an anniversary repress. No lame alternate cover, no 3LPs filled with demos and acoustic tracks. Just the album for those who doesn't have it. So easy. Edit: lol I forgot they did exactly this with white pony Edited May 18 by xfactor675 pizza face, copelandkid, tmfa80 and 6 others 4 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGhostOfRandySavage Posted May 18 Share Posted May 18 5 minutes ago, xfactor675 said: Labels/bands take note, this is how you do an anniversary repress. No lame alternate cover, no 3LPs filled with demos and acoustic tracks. Just the album for those who doesn't have it. So easy. It's still $30 plus shipping for a single LP. I get the point you're making, but also by not adding anything, remastering, or doing anything special this should be $20-25 max. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xfactor675 Posted May 18 Share Posted May 18 (edited) 3 minutes ago, TheGhostOfRandySavage said: It's still $30 plus shipping for a single LP. I get the point you're making, but also by not adding anything, remastering, or doing anything special this should be $20-25 max. Where were you in the last few months? 25-dollar LPs are basically gone by now besides smaller indie labels. 30 is the new standard unfortunately, and yes it's annoying as hell. Edited May 18 by xfactor675 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ntslash Posted May 18 Share Posted May 18 Is this exclusive to Deftones store or just a limited press? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGhostOfRandySavage Posted May 18 Share Posted May 18 42 minutes ago, xfactor675 said: Where were you in the last few months? 25-dollar LPs are basically gone by now besides smaller indie labels. 30 is the new standard unfortunately, and yes it's annoying as hell. It's incredibly rare that I pay $30 for any single LP anymore. If people stopped buying shit and just accepting it as the "new standard" prices would regress. That's how capitalism works. Vote with your wallet. Buy from smaller labels. Mars and xfactor675 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xfactor675 Posted May 18 Share Posted May 18 (edited) 2 minutes ago, TheGhostOfRandySavage said: It's incredibly rare that I pay $30 for any single LP anymore. If people stopped buying shit and just accepting it as the "new standard" prices would regress. That's how capitalism works. Vote with your wallet. Buy from smaller labels. True, this is what I do. Too bad that newly joined splatter maniac instagram show offs don't think this way and they will gladly pay the 50-dollar price tag. Edited May 18 by xfactor675 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGhostOfRandySavage Posted May 18 Share Posted May 18 1 minute ago, xfactor675 said: True, this is what I do. Too bad that newly joined splatter maniac insta show offs don't think this way Those buyers are mostly short timers or infrequent buyers though. There are a ton of people on this board alone who are probably going to buy this at that ridiculous price and it's straight up price gouging. If Deathwish, RFC, Polyvinyl, etc can sell single LPs for $25 or less (or even better Dischord at $18), a major label printing more copies can obviously do it for less. It just seems silly to me to normalize" this the way you did by saying, "well, thems the breaks," when someone acknowledges the outrageous price. How are people new to the hobby going to learn if no one teaches them? xfactor675 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strangers Posted May 18 Share Posted May 18 49 minutes ago, ntslash said: Is this exclusive to Deftones store or just a limited press? It’s rolling out to shops; https://www.roughtrade.com/gb/product/deftones/deftones Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek™ Posted May 18 Share Posted May 18 The annoying part there is that for huge bands like Deftones, there is even less impact of "voting with your dollar" than, say, an overpriced record on Deathwish or Hello Merch. Artists like Deftones know how wide their reach is, and that it stretches beyond market-savvy vinyl enthusiasts. There are plenty of people out there who do not buy vinyl often, so they have no problem shelling out $30, $40, even $50 for a single LP because it's officially licensed on a fancy color. (Or sometimes not. Nine Inch Nails' pricing is pretty rough too, for just black vinyl reissues.) With any overpriced record, for every 1 reasonable person "voting with their wallet", there's 10 who have no problem taking their spot. And I feel like that ratio is even steeper with artists like Deftones. I'm happy to still have that Hot Topic variant for this one, so I'm not losing sleep over trying to cop another one. Someone tag me when they make a 45 RPM double LP that's ruby red translucent and coke bottle blue for $30. whoa, tape and xfactor675 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daiei Posted May 18 Share Posted May 18 2 hours ago, xfactor675 said: Labels/bands take note, this is how you do an anniversary repress. No lame alternate cover, no 3LPs filled with demos and acoustic tracks. Just the album for those who doesn't have it. So easy. Edit: lol I forgot they did exactly this with white pony I'm the opposite. If you're going to celebrate you should be doing extra. I want those demos, acoustics, and remaster. Anything less is useless. Isn't this album easily purchasable already? webdoggy and Justinadamk 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xfactor675 Posted May 18 Share Posted May 18 (edited) 25 minutes ago, Daiei said: I'm the opposite. If you're going to celebrate you should be doing extra. I want those demos, acoustics, and remaster. Anything less is useless. Isn't this album easily purchasable already? You really listen to those awful sounding bedroom demos on vinyl on side F instead of spotify? I really can't see myself to put these kinda songs ever on the table. And these are making the deluxe 70 dollars filled with totally unwanted material and the band put zero effort in it, just milking the fans. Put these songs on bandcamp for pay what you want. Edited May 18 by xfactor675 kannibal 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daegor Posted May 18 Share Posted May 18 I don't give a shit about demos/live (unless it's something really cool), but I definitely spin the remasters/acoustic/remix/instrumental sides. kannibal 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sad Heart Posted May 18 Share Posted May 18 3 hours ago, TheGhostOfRandySavage said: It's still $30 plus shipping for a single LP. I get the point you're making, but also by not adding anything, remastering, or doing anything special this should be $20-25 max. Agreed. $30 for a single LP is lame. Especially when all they did was color the record. Same plates, same jacket, etc. It’s a simple repress. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGhostOfRandySavage Posted May 18 Share Posted May 18 19 minutes ago, Sad Heart said: Agreed. $30 for a single LP is lame. Especially when all they did was color the record. Same plates, same jacket, etc. It’s a simple repress. Preach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek™ Posted May 18 Share Posted May 18 Salt in the wound: found my Hot Topic email receipt from 2011. Their S/T exclusive was $20.99. Basically $27 out the door with taxes and shipping. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rip Posted May 18 Share Posted May 18 Here ya go. $25 shipped with Prime: https://a.co/d/dcHFuU1 faaip de oiad, ejc625, whoa and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ntslash Posted May 18 Share Posted May 18 1 hour ago, Rip said: Here ya go. $25 shipped with Prime: https://a.co/d/dcHFuU1 Thank you! Just saved me $15. Now let the argument about how Amazon is evil commence... Sanspants and Rip 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kannibal Posted May 19 Share Posted May 19 6 hours ago, xfactor675 said: Labels/bands take note, this is how you do an anniversary repress. No lame alternate cover, no 3LPs filled with demos and acoustic tracks. Just the album for those who doesn't have it. So easy. Edit: lol I forgot they did exactly this with white pony 4 hours ago, Daiei said: I'm the opposite. If you're going to celebrate you should be doing extra. I want those demos, acoustics, and remaster. Anything less is useless. Isn't this album easily purchasable already? Why does it have to be one or the other? Why not do both so fans can pick what they want? Recent Dirt reissue comes to mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGhostOfRandySavage Posted May 19 Share Posted May 19 3 hours ago, Rip said: Here ya go. $25 shipped with Prime: https://a.co/d/dcHFuU1 Boom. Reasonable pricing. Good post, man! Rip and faaip de oiad 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostcrimes Posted May 19 Share Posted May 19 4 hours ago, Rip said: Here ya go. $25 shipped with Prime: https://a.co/d/dcHFuU1 Womp womp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGhostOfRandySavage Posted May 19 Share Posted May 19 (edited) Lol. Looks like I got banned from r/vinylreleases for daring to post the amazon link for this. What a shitshow. @DarrenMcCall any input? Ha! Got a message I'm permanently banned from participating there. Guess you didn't like me asking why I got banned. Hahaha, I've now been banned from r/vinyldeals. My guy, if it's you doing it that's some weak shit. If it is one of the other mods you should rein in your kids. I didn't break any rules and contributed to the sub. Typical reddit mods. Edited May 19 by TheGhostOfRandySavage pizza face 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sad Heart Posted May 19 Share Posted May 19 57 minutes ago, TheGhostOfRandySavage said: Lol. Looks like I got banned from r/vinylreleases for daring to post the amazon link for this. What a shitshow. @DarrenMcCall any input? Ha! Got a message I'm permanently banned from participating there. Guess you didn't like me asking why I got banned. Hahaha, I've now been banned from r/vinyldeals. My guy, if it's you doing it that's some weak shit. If it is one of the other mods you should rein in your kids. I didn't break any rules and contributed to the sub. Typical reddit mods. Weird. I posted it on there and haven’t heard a thing. Sounds like typical mod behavior to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarrenMcCall Posted May 19 Share Posted May 19 Hey @TheGhostOfRandySavage I sent you a modmail a few minutes after the ban. You’ve broken multiple rules, continues to harass the mod team over and over again with false accusations. So, I banned you… Here’s the modmail you were sent: “Deftones was already posted, and then reposted (I left the repost since it was the official store). The Amazon link was posted multiple times in both threads. We removed the third post for the same variant, because we don't want a new post for every store. This is typical for us to remove duplicate posts for the same variant. > Is it going to show up again soon with an affiliate link from one of you? Comments like this are unnecessary. I've addressed you multiple times about the mods in the past. You've now been permanently banned. If you don't like the sub, please go somewhere else.” twatay, lostcrimes, ditc586 and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek™ Posted May 19 Share Posted May 19 5 minutes ago, DarrenMcCall said: Is it going to show up again soon with an affiliate link from one of you? I mean, that's a valid question. 😂 That sub and its rules can roll dice. Always assumed its par for the course for any other sub on reddit: moderated by middle-aged men with little-to-no control in their lives offline, obsessed over splitting hairs over community rules. A tale as old as time... or at least, the internet. But yeah, Randy – should've just waited for the album to go up on Wal-Mart's site, so you could spam affiliated links for it. 🥴 Lesson learned, I hope! pizza face, ditc586, TheGhostOfRandySavage and 2 others 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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