enjoyadrian Posted May 27, 2009 Share Posted May 27, 2009 Ahaha. Wtf is with that 5 second total stop at the end of the break down? Soo good.Good scouting Ferret. the gap is to wipe the tears of joy and gather yourself before the epic finish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casey Posted May 27, 2009 Share Posted May 27, 2009 Wait, Terrence the Bat isn't in this band anymore? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xjustinxschwierx Posted May 2, 2012 Share Posted May 2, 2012 this just popped up in my news feed on facebook, this is the only thread I found searchin.... see attached picture. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dynamitekid Posted May 2, 2012 Share Posted May 2, 2012 Damn, generic insight dumped their account. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bybombasticbomb Posted May 3, 2012 Share Posted May 3, 2012 I just read through 90% of that Ice Nine Kills thread. So hilarious. I met that band at Warped '08 if I remember correctly. Hilarious dudes. Total idiots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcm1610 Posted May 4, 2012 Share Posted May 4, 2012 Those kids stand super awkwardly. SO MANY LOCKED KNEES! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
almightyseancore Posted May 4, 2012 Share Posted May 4, 2012 so are the tight jeans mandatory? reminds me of this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aHSrFjwVAHA&hl=en&fs=1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grant Williams Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 On 5/26/2009 at 7:27 PM, scottheisel said: Holy jesus fuck this is awful: http://www.myspace.com/iceninekills Also, assuming the band will end up reading this: I listened to the whole song before making this thread. So there. Kind of funny how Ice Nine Kills has since become so successful that Forbes is covering them now: https://www.forbes.com/sites/quentinsinger/2020/07/24/ice-nine-kills-offer-the-latest-spin-to-a-successful-band-business-horror-franchises/#74e0cc0c735c Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottheisel Posted August 3, 2020 Author Share Posted August 3, 2020 On 8/2/2020 at 2:00 AM, Grant Williams said: Kind of funny how Ice Nine Kills has since become so successful that Forbes is covering them now: https://www.forbes.com/sites/quentinsinger/2020/07/24/ice-nine-kills-offer-the-latest-spin-to-a-successful-band-business-horror-franchises/#74e0cc0c735c Literally anyone can become a contributor to Forbes. It's an unpaid position. It means absolutely nothing in the long run, just like anything this band will ever produce: https://www.joshsteimle.com/writing/how-being-a-forbes-contributor-works.html Welcome to the board, though! Which band member's father are you? Shelby, Thomas³ and Derek™ 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grant Williams Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 18 hours ago, scottheisel said: Literally anyone can become a contributor to Forbes. It's an unpaid position. It means absolutely nothing in the long run, just like anything this band will ever produce: https://www.joshsteimle.com/writing/how-being-a-forbes-contributor-works.html Welcome to the board, though! Which band member's father are you? WOW. Someone is a bit angry, huh? Just pointing out the fact that they're successful and earning millions. How many magazines were you fired from, just alt press or substream as well? Looks like they are more successful than you will ever be, sucks huh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottheisel Posted August 4, 2020 Author Share Posted August 4, 2020 10 hours ago, Grant Williams said: WOW. Someone is a bit angry, huh? Just pointing out the fact that they're successful and earning millions. How many magazines were you fired from, just alt press or substream as well? Looks like they are more successful than you will ever be, sucks huh? Dude, I haven't even thought about this band in years. There's no anger here! Whereas you're a complete stranger who joined a message board and bumped a decade-old thread just to brag about a band who you literally have to be related to in some capacity, because seriously, who else would give a shit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Hundred Fifty-Two Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 12 hours ago, Grant Williams said: WOW. Someone is a bit angry, huh? Just pointing out the fact that they're successful and earning millions. How many magazines were you fired from, just alt press or substream as well? Looks like they are more successful than you will ever be, sucks huh? New guy has fangs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexH. Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 I'll admit to being blown away by those numbers. $1.75 million in merch sales in 2019 is nuts for a band that I would have guessed had peaked with their inclusion on one of those "Punk Goes" compilations. I'll also say that as someone who would love to live in a world where artists are able to subsist solely on their art and don't have to become super-savvy strategic marketing gurus or rely on commodity fetishism to survive, it does bum me out a lot to read an interview with a guy who can say "it really changed the way that the band thinks about merchandise" without throwing up! Bands with more shirt designs than songs fuck off!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottheisel Posted August 4, 2020 Author Share Posted August 4, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, AlexH. said: I'll admit to being blown away by those numbers. $1.75 million in merch sales in 2019 is nuts for a band that I would have guessed had peaked with their inclusion on one of those "Punk Goes" compilations. I'll also say that as someone who would love to live in a world where artists are able to subsist solely on their art and don't have to become super-savvy strategic marketing gurus or rely on commodity fetishism to survive, it does bum me out a lot to read an interview with a guy who can say "it really changed the way that the band thinks about merchandise" without throwing up! Bands with more shirt designs than songs fuck off!!!! $1.75 million sounds impressive until you realize it's gross, not net, that number is pre-taxes, and it's split five ways minimum (likely upwards of 10 ways — five band members, management company, record label and merch company). So yeah, it's good money if you can get it, but remember, Virgil grossed $1 million with Vinyl Collective back in 2008 or something. Look how well that worked out for him! Edited August 4, 2020 by scottheisel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N8TRU Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 Only thing good I can say about this band is they have the drummer from Affiance and they took out one of the few bands from Delaware that ever made it to any degree in music (Awake at Last). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grant Williams Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 44 minutes ago, scottheisel said: $1.75 million sounds impressive until you realize it's gross, not net, that number is pre-taxes, and it's split five ways minimum (likely upwards of 10 ways — five band members, management company, record label and merch company). So yeah, it's good money if you can get it, but remember, Virgil grossed $1 million with Vinyl Collective back in 2008 or something. Look how well that worked out for him! Actually, the lead singer is the only signed member of the band according to my friend at their record label , the other guys are hired musicians, so the net profits are most likely split one way after industry team commissions, and I believe that figure in the Forbes article was only referring to online merchandise sales, could be wrong. For a band that spent the last year on headlining shows 1200-3000 caps all over the world (many of which sold out ( i attended the downstairs Worcester Palladium show) and are booked on an arena tour this fall with Five Finger Death Punch (say what you will about FFDP, but they are HUGE), I'd say it's probable that they are making some 7 figure money. A quick search of their name shows you that they are also managed by arguably one of the biggest companies in rock, 10th Street Ent., were the Cover of Rock Sound magazine this year and that their last album debuted in the top 30 of Billboard 200 with over 16,000 copies first week, pretty huge for a band like that in this day in age. I also saw they posted on IG that the latest album has garnered well over 100 million streams and landed a top 10 active rock radio hit. Scott when you say that their Forbes coverage "...means nothing in the long run, just like anything this band will ever produce", that sounds a BIT like there's anger and bitterness behind those words, no? Listen, I grew up in the same area as these guys in MA so admittedly I'm bias, and while I'm the first to admit that their response to your review was a poor way to handle the situation back in the day, I think you acted like a pretty big dick too, to which you'll never concede. They never blasted you publicly until after you made a stink about their harmless private message, If memory serves (and by reviewing the original thread) they sent you an email which you then blasted to make them look like fools. They were young kids who held AP to be their bible and were most likely crushed by how you belittled them in their first appearance in the magazine. They were not a name band at the time, so including them in magazine (only to trash them) I think was in poor form and aimed at nothing else than to crush the spirits of a young band. Of course if a huge band like MCR or FOB released a stinker of an album at the time, that's very fair game to write about, but what was the point of including a no name band review just to bash them? They were annoying on Myspace? What band wasn't? I'm sure they were just doing what they thought was the best way to get the name out, I doubt it was with malice intentions. Clearly what they hoped to become and what they believed they could, they in fact did regardless of how cred and original you believe them to be. You honestly seem like a mean spirited person based on this situation back then, and by your comments in the present, that doesn't seem to have changed. I also remember speaking with the band about the incident at a show they played in Cambridge a few years back, they told me they mailed you a letter of apology and a gift basket to try and make amends and acknowledged they were wrong... and you never even acknowledged it. Anyways this is getting long and no one is probably reading this entire thing. I saw the Forbes article, remembered this site bashing them and figured the members who were sure Ice Nine would amount to jack shit might get a kick out of it. And yes, I'm sure you'll reply with something that: a) ignores all the facts I just stated and b) Is just a smug comment with no substance or recognition of how hard work seems to have paid off in their case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grant Williams Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 4 hours ago, AlexH. said: I'll admit to being blown away by those numbers. $1.75 million in merch sales in 2019 is nuts for a band that I would have guessed had peaked with their inclusion on one of those "Punk Goes" compilations. I'll also say that as someone who would love to live in a world where artists are able to subsist solely on their art and don't have to become super-savvy strategic marketing gurus or rely on commodity fetishism to survive, it does bum me out a lot to read an interview with a guy who can say "it really changed the way that the band thinks about merchandise" without throwing up! Bands with more shirt designs than songs fuck off!!!! If you actually read the Forbes article, it says the dude is approaching the business as to what HE wanted as a fan growing up as a passionate horror geek, not as a soul-less suit as you are implying. I'll never understand people who fault bands for being business savvy. It is extremely hard to make a living playing music and if catering to your audience in creative ways that also happens to be lucrative is wrong, than I just don't get your point. I never faulted bands for having great marketing, anything you can do to get more ears on great music, i say go for it! For instance, there were so many bands i loved in the late 90's early 2000's that I feel should have been HUGE , had they had the FOB, Blink, MCR sensibility of how to get noticed we'd probably still have them around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas³ Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 What is an Ice Nine Kills? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottheisel Posted August 6, 2020 Author Share Posted August 6, 2020 16 hours ago, Thomas³ said: What is an Ice Nine Kills? Chik-Fil-A-core. See also: The Paramedic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shelby Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 On 8/4/2020 at 9:01 PM, Grant Williams said: Actually, the lead singer is the only signed member of the band according to my friend at their record label , the other guys are hired musicians, so the net profits are most likely split one way after industry team commissions, and I believe that figure in the Forbes article was only referring to online merchandise sales, could be wrong. For a band that spent the last year on headlining shows 1200-3000 caps all over the world (many of which sold out ( i attended the downstairs Worcester Palladium show) and are booked on an arena tour this fall with Five Finger Death Punch (say what you will about FFDP, but they are HUGE), I'd say it's probable that they are making some 7 figure money. A quick search of their name shows you that they are also managed by arguably one of the biggest companies in rock, 10th Street Ent., were the Cover of Rock Sound magazine this year and that their last album debuted in the top 30 of Billboard 200 with over 16,000 copies first week, pretty huge for a band like that in this day in age. I also saw they posted on IG that the latest album has garnered well over 100 million streams and landed a top 10 active rock radio hit. Scott when you say that their Forbes coverage "...means nothing in the long run, just like anything this band will ever produce", that sounds a BIT like there's anger and bitterness behind those words, no? Looking For Online Degree? You Might Surprise How Easily You Can Get Academic Degree! www.anyquestion.wiki Listen, I grew up in the same area as these guys in MA so admittedly I'm bias, and while I'm the first to admit that their response to your review was a poor way to handle the situation back in the day, I think you acted like a pretty big dick too, to which you'll never concede. They never blasted you publicly until after you made a stink about their harmless private message, If memory serves (and by reviewing the original thread) they sent you an email which you then blasted to make them look like fools. They were young kids who held AP to be their bible and were most likely crushed by how you belittled them in their first appearance in the magazine. They were not a name band at the time, so including them in magazine (only to trash them) I think was in poor form and aimed at nothing else than to crush the spirits of a young band. Of course if a huge band like MCR or FOB released a stinker of an album at the time, that's very fair game to write about, but what was the point of including a no name band review just to bash them? They were annoying on Myspace? What band wasn't? I'm sure they were just doing what they thought was the best way to get the name out, I doubt it was with malice intentions. Clearly what they hoped to become and what they believed they could, they in fact did regardless of how cred and original you believe them to be. You honestly seem like a mean spirited person based on this situation back then, and by your comments in the present, that doesn't seem to have changed. I also remember speaking with the band about the incident at a show they played in Cambridge a few years back, they told me they mailed you a letter of apology and a gift basket to try and make amends and acknowledged they were wrong... and you never even acknowledged it. Anyways this is getting long and no one is probably reading this entire thing. I saw the Forbes article, remembered this site bashing them and figured the members who were sure Ice Nine would amount to jack shit might get a kick out of it. And yes, I'm sure you'll reply with something that: a) ignores all the facts I just stated and b) Is just a smug comment with no substance or recognition of how hard work seems to have paid off in their case. Lmfao im so glad I just clicked this thread. You might actually be the biggest loser in the universe holy shit. One Hundred Fifty-Two 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek™ Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 Did this guy just crawl out of the woods to bump an 8 year-old thread to defend the band Ice Nine Kills in 2020? This is the birth of some new meme and I’m thrilled to spectate at the ground floor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas³ Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 6 hours ago, scottheisel said: Chik-Fil-A-core. See also: The Paramedic Sounds delicious. Let's grab some chic-fil-a soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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