moonbeams Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 Not sure what you mean. I reuse mailers. I do this. Remove record from jacket, place everything in a sealable plastic sleeve. Tape everything to a sheet of card board. Tape another sheet of cardboard on the other side. Place in mailer and tape to center. Nothing will slide around. Then tape cardboard over all four corners to prevent corner damage. homework 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
codeine Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 The cardboard grain dude, you're supposed to cross them, for structural integrity. Greater structural integrity if you cross the grain of the cardboard. Do you cross them to each other? At least 1 of them has to be crossed to the LP, for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
codeine Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 I'm saying, if you put 2 stiffeners, to double reinforce everything... do you cross them to each others grains? Or to the LP mailers grain? Obv at least 1 of the stiffeners has to be 90 degrees to the mailer. What about the other one... there are 2 options here. Am I the only one who has ever thought of this?And for the reuse thing I was answering people who were asking where the cheapest place to buy them is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
codeine Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 Like, if you look at a mailer and a cardboard stiffener... look at the lines in the cardboard... they go in one direction... hehe one direction... so anyway yeah you are supposed to cross the stiffener's grain to the mailer's grain because cardboard is easy to fold along the grain. So you double up, cross-grained, so it is less likely to be able to fold. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremybentham Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 Make the sandwich with the stiffeners, both same grain, then cross grain to mailer. I hate when there is tape all over my polybags. codeine 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
codeine Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 Make the sandwich with the stiffeners, both same grain, then cross grain to mailer. I hate when there is tape all over my polybags. THANK YOU! I AM NOT THE ONLY ONE WHO HAS PONDERED THIS! and yes I completely agree, it's ridiculous when people go tape-happy. Although, I usually tape all the way around the edges of the mailer. But for the reason that, in case you are sending somewhere snowy/sandy so you don't get little bits of dirt or whatever in the perforation holes, and just to reinforce it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moonbeams Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 don't even know what a grain is. All I know is that my method is the best and if everyone used it, there would be no more damaged corners or seam splits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremybentham Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 Oh yeah, I totally seal the mailer, theres just no reason to have an assload of tape in such close proximity to my costly vinylss. codeine 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
codeine Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 don't even know what a grain is. All I know is that my method is the best and if everyone used it, there would be no more damaged corners or seam splits. It's like wood grain, same basic idea. Take a piece of cardboard, examine it. See those lines? The direction the lines go in is the 'grain'. If you are not crossing grain to double reinforce, then your method is flawed, the cardboard is structurally weak along the grain. If you can't see the grain lines, take a piece and try folding it (use a scrap piece, not something you will be using to mail) ...it will naturally resist folding across the grain, but will be very, very easy to fold along the grain, in fact it will fold in a perfectly straight line, because it will follow the grain. It's like if you had grain going vertically on the mailer: || then you would put the stiffener's grain going horizontally: = together you would get something like this: # as if they were interwoven Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marc32137 Posted April 15, 2013 Share Posted April 15, 2013 I got an eBay record today that had the complete opposite of "frustration-free" packaging. Two 14"x14" pieces of cardboard sandwiched together and stapled(!) about 8 times around each side, and two layers of packing tape around them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moonbeams Posted April 27, 2013 Share Posted April 27, 2013 It's like wood grain, same basic idea. Take a piece of cardboard, examine it. See those lines? The direction the lines go in is the 'grain'. If you are not crossing grain to double reinforce, then your method is flawed, the cardboard is structurally weak along the grain. If you can't see the grain lines, take a piece and try folding it (use a scrap piece, not something you will be using to mail) ...it will naturally resist folding across the grain, but will be very, very easy to fold along the grain, in fact it will fold in a perfectly straight line, because it will follow the grain. It's like if you had grain going vertically on the mailer: || then you would put the stiffener's grain going horizontally: = together you would get something like this: # as if they were interwoven So subtle, but clever. I like it. Have there been any tests to show statistical significance? I might play around with this if I get some extra mailers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amnstypls Posted April 29, 2013 Share Posted April 29, 2013 It's like wood grain, same basic idea. Take a piece of cardboard, examine it. See those lines? The direction the lines go in is the 'grain'. If you are not crossing grain to double reinforce, then your method is flawed, the cardboard is structurally weak along the grain. If you can't see the grain lines, take a piece and try folding it (use a scrap piece, not something you will be using to mail) ...it will naturally resist folding across the grain, but will be very, very easy to fold along the grain, in fact it will fold in a perfectly straight line, because it will follow the grain. It's like if you had grain going vertically on the mailer: || then you would put the stiffener's grain going horizontally: = together you would get something like this: # as if they were interwoven I always go with two inner stiffeners and put their threads parallel. This way they are cross grained on both sides of the mailer. And yes, I am obsessed with this too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Youinreverse Posted April 29, 2013 Share Posted April 29, 2013 What's the best way to ship a flexidisc? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amnstypls Posted April 30, 2013 Share Posted April 30, 2013 What's the best way to ship a flexidisc? Bubble Mailer with cardboard inserted on both sides. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cee Posted May 1, 2013 Share Posted May 1, 2013 Thanks for the awesome guide! I used it to send about 20LPs out over the past few days. Much better way to pack than some of the shit I've got through the post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Exquisite Death of NK Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 What's your favorite way to receive a 7" record? Best advice for packaging one? I only have standard 12" record mailers around the house. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amnstypls Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 What's your favorite way to receive a 7" record? Best advice for packaging one? I only have standard 12" record mailers around the house. My favorite way to receive them is in a 12" mailer, with the 7" taped in place on a stiffener. I take an old 12" poly sleeve and put the 7" in there, fold the excess over, and tape it right on the center of the stiffener. Then a single bubble wrap insert. Not the most cost effective way to send, but that's certainly how I like to receive them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minor incident Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 My favorite way to receive them is in a 12" mailer, with the 7" taped in place on a stiffener. I take an old 12" poly sleeve and put the 7" in there, fold the excess over, and tape it right on the center of the stiffener. Then a single bubble wrap insert. Not the most cost effective way to send, but that's certainly how I like to receive them. I just got a 7" today that was just tossed into a 12" mailer, loose, rattling around, with no poly bag or anything. The record ripped an inch-long tear in the side of the pic sleeve from being shaken around. AWESOME. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amnstypls Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 I just got a 7" today that was just tossed into a 12" mailer, loose, rattling around, with no poly bag or anything. The record ripped an inch-long tear in the side of the pic sleeve from being shaken around. AWESOME. Wow! I'd ask for a partial refund. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
828321 Posted June 22, 2013 Share Posted June 22, 2013 I bought an original copy of Manic Street Preacher Everything Must Go on vinyl once and the seller (ebay) sent it to me wrapped in newspaper and just taped where the things overlapped. It arrived on a wet day and was ruined. The seller said I was over reacting when I gave him both barrels in the email complaint which followed. Death of vinyl by negligence should be punishable by punching in the throat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harryengland Posted August 6, 2013 Share Posted August 6, 2013 So today I received two records I bought off eBay, was a bit suspect as it felt a bit thin and was wrapped in the plastic packaging of a duvet (I think you call them comforters? - basically this was just a plastic carrier bag). Opened it, the records were wrapped in a thin layer of TOILET PAPER, with not even a cardboard stiffener. No protection whatsoever, it's a miracle there's only a few corner dings on them both, although they're both kinda sticky too which is horrible. I mean i've received records in bubble mailers before that have been damaged but this is almost insulting, they charged £1 more than the actual postage which is fair enough to cover costs, but they'd spent about a penny worth of equipment in this instance. What would people recommend I write in a message to them? I don't wanna give them an onslaught because it's an individual seller so they probably don't have second copies to replace these with and i'd like to keep the records, but ideally i'd like to get a few £ back because the dings have devalued the records.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ntslash Posted August 20, 2013 Share Posted August 20, 2013 I am shipping a double 10" record tomorrow morning. Any packaging advice? I have several standard record mailers, lots of cardboard, and some thin bubble sheets. Should I take the records out to prevent seam splits? If I do take them out, how should I pack them? Thanks for the advice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jase Posted August 28, 2013 Share Posted August 28, 2013 I am shipping a double 10" record tomorrow morning. Any packaging advice? I have several standard record mailers, lots of cardboard, and some thin bubble sheets. Should I take the records out to prevent seam splits? If I do take them out, how should I pack them? Thanks for the advice. Cut two pieces of cardboard about half inch bigger on each side. Put the record in their inner sleeves, out of the jacket. Sandwich it between the pieces of card board, and tape each edge of the cardboard. It will take any bumps the record may have, and it's the best you can do Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jase Posted August 28, 2013 Share Posted August 28, 2013 Oops, put that inside a standard record mailer^^ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sliplikespace Posted September 7, 2013 Share Posted September 7, 2013 Probably a stupid question but better to be safe than sorry. What would be the best way to go about sending two separate records? Is it acceptable to do the same thing posted in the original post basically or should I do something else? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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