timsimmons Posted August 26, 2018 Share Posted August 26, 2018 I just assumed the label issues stemmed from not wanting to put out a massive box set of their last popular (original group) album after putting out a large box set of Adore which is generally regarded as their the start of their decline. So a renewed interest in the band could mean a renewed interest in sales. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneThreeOneTwo Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 (edited) I asked my friend who went to the Toronto show if they played any Machina tracks fwiw. He said they played 3 in a 3.5 hr set. I managed to buy a copy a decade ago on Discogs when it was 80 dollars-ish... Maybe even less. But I would sell that and re-up on a big-ass vinyl box set in a heartbeat. Edited August 27, 2018 by arumajiro 零 一つ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skycriesmary Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 On 8/25/2018 at 7:32 PM, timsimmons said: I just assumed the label issues stemmed from not wanting to put out a massive box set of their last popular (original group) album after putting out a large box set of Adore which is generally regarded as their the start of their decline. So a renewed interest in the band could mean a renewed interest in sales. Yeah, but they haven't had an album as good as Adore since either... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
endlessslog Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 5 hours ago, arumajiro 零 一つ said: I asked my friend who went to the Toronto show if they played any Machina tracks fwiw. He said they played 3 in a 3.5 hr set. I managed to buy a copy a decade ago on Discogs when it was 80 dollars-ish... Maybe even less. But I would sell that and re-up on a big-ass vinyl box set in a heartbeat. It is a greatest hits show with an unvarying setlist. 3 songs doesn't sound like much, but there are a lot of songs from the previous albums that need to be included. OneThreeOneTwo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pepperonigin Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 I love Machina but three from that album was appropriate from this tour. Most of the show stems from Siamese, Mellon Collie, Gish, etc. As it should be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dreamover Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 On 8/25/2018 at 9:32 PM, timsimmons said: I just assumed the label issues stemmed from not wanting to put out a massive box set of their last popular (original group) album after putting out a large box set of Adore which is generally regarded as their the start of their decline. So a renewed interest in the band could mean a renewed interest in sales. nope. the original reissue deal was inked with Virgin/EMI. But Virgin again changed hands and management after Adore came out, and they weren't interested in doing more reissues the way Corgan wanted to. So he just abandoned it. He was more focused on new music at the time anyway. Now that Jimmy and James are back and they're playing the old songs, I think he became motivated to get the reissues rolling again. Machina/Machina II as originally planned is the most important reissue anyway. It's the one album that was never truly finished. Though, I am also interested in the Greatest Hits CD boxset as he said it would finally contain the Metro DVD. I also want a Zwan reissue because there were so many more songs recorded that never got released. (Spun soundtrack, ETC) faaip de oiad 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tussin Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 (edited) 8 hours ago, endlessslog said: It is a greatest hits show with an unvarying setlist. 3 songs doesn't sound like much, but there are a lot of songs from the previous albums that need to be included. It's a great show. I've seen them several times post original lineup, and this blows all of those away. They sound great. James handles most of the interaction with the crowd, band introductions, etc. I'd forgotten how funny of a guy he is. The 32 song setlist breaks down like this: 2 from Gish, 7 Siamese Dream, 8 Melon Collie. 3 Adore, 3 Machina. 4 covers, 2 soundtrack songs, 2 b-sides & 1 new song. If you're are fan, I highly recommend you catch this tour. I can't imagine a Pumpkins show better than this in the future. Edited August 27, 2018 by tussin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timsimmons Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 (edited) He said he was gonna commission completely new artwork too. So I'm not expecting it this year now. Probably want to do the new EPs first. Edited August 27, 2018 by timsimmons Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fish Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 1 hour ago, tussin said: It's a great show. I've seen them several times post original lineup, and this blows all of those away. They sound great. James handles most of the interaction with the crowd, band introductions, etc. I'd forgotten how funny of a guy he is. The 32 song setlist breaks down like this: 2 from Gish, 7 Siamese Dream, 8 Melon Collie. 3 Adore, 3 Machina. 4 covers, 2 soundtrack songs, 2 b-sides & 1 new song. If you're are fan, I highly recommend you catch this tour. I can't imagine a Pumpkins show better than this in the future. I haven't really been a fan at all since Melon Collie but I had a great time at the gig. Enough old stuff to keep me happy. Would have taken 2 more Gish tracks and a couple less MC but whatever. Seeing Drown live was cool. It also helped the experience that I got a great $125+ ticket for $30 on stubhub an hour before the show. But Detroit was maybe half full. They actually closed off the upper deck and upgraded those people down to the lower bowl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highfives Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 1 hour ago, timsimmons said: He said he was gonna commission completely new artwork too. So I'm not expecting it this year now. Probably want to do the new EPs first. He said it's going to be 1 LP instead of 2 EPs now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thesecrets0308 Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 Nme article about machina reissue. https://www.nme.com/news/music/smashing-pumpkins-machina-reissue-2377933 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highfives Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 14 hours ago, thesecrets0308 said: Nme article about machina reissue. https://www.nme.com/news/music/smashing-pumpkins-machina-reissue-2377933 If you've followed the Instagram Q&A, all of that info came from there. Billy said there will be some remixing and possibly some writing for interludes or something so the songs can connect better. There will be new artwork for the set as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyfranciosa Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 Is the most recent re-issue of Adore out of print? I see it on Amazon from some 3rd party sellers. Had a backorder for it canceled by another vendor... seems to be scarce at the moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CeCeCe Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 12 minutes ago, tonyfranciosa said: Is the most recent re-issue of Adore out of print? I see it on Amazon from some 3rd party sellers. Had a backorder for it canceled by another vendor... seems to be scarce at the moment. Yeah I recently bought it and it seemed that way. Gish seems to be in print & widely available, and Melloncollie boxset has recently been repressed but the others don't appear to have tonyfranciosa 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highfives Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 4 hours ago, tonyfranciosa said: Is the most recent re-issue of Adore out of print? I see it on Amazon from some 3rd party sellers. Had a backorder for it canceled by another vendor... seems to be scarce at the moment. Seems like they lapse from time to time. It's kind of crazy the Siamese Dream reissue is so much more expensive than Adore or Pisces Iscariot. Even at the tour shows SD was twice as much as Adore at the merch tables. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highfives Posted September 14, 2018 Share Posted September 14, 2018 Shiny and Oh So Bright Vol. 1. Looks like we’ll probably see more preorders go up tomorrow when they drop Silvery Sometimes. Maybe this will be followed with another LP next year? Billy keeps mentioning new SP in 2019. https://www.amazon.fr/dp/B07H52J4GN/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_3BUMBbAAN6XHP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jettkoral Posted September 14, 2018 Share Posted September 14, 2018 The new album is up for PO, a color variant (/1500) is up, along with a 3x7” box. https://store.smashingpumpkins.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CeCeCe Posted September 14, 2018 Share Posted September 14, 2018 16 minutes ago, Jettkoral said: The new album is up for PO, a color variant (/1500) is up, along with a 3x7” box. https://store.smashingpumpkins.com/ Cheers. Just went for the violet lp seeing as it doesn't say if the 3 7 inches have additional tracks on them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stupidmop Posted September 14, 2018 Share Posted September 14, 2018 pre ordered the gold /500 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CeCeCe Posted September 14, 2018 Share Posted September 14, 2018 (edited) https://www.napalmrecordsamerica.com/store/smashingpumpkins/shopby/category-sound/ https://shop.napalmrecords.com/thesmashingpumpkins label links which include the gold vinyl LP details SIDE A (running time:17:53 ) 1 Knights Of Malta 2 Silvery Sometimes (Ghosts) 3 Travels 4 Solara SIDE B (running time:13:55 ) 5 Alienation 6 Marchin’ On 7 With Sympathy 8 Seek And You Shall Destroy 3x7" details 1 x 7inch Side A: Solara Side B: Etching 1 x 7 inch Side A: Silvery Sometimes (Ghosts) Side B: Etching 1 x 7inch Side A. Knights Of Malta Side B: Etching Edited September 14, 2018 by craigeduk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycmale Posted September 14, 2018 Share Posted September 14, 2018 2 hours ago, Jettkoral said: The new album is up for PO, a color variant (/1500) is up, along with a 3x7” box. https://store.smashingpumpkins.com/ I don't see where it says limited to 1500. I see the violet box set says limited to 2000 on the label site Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CeCeCe Posted September 14, 2018 Share Posted September 14, 2018 (edited) More variants announced, so far we have: Violet https://store.smashingpumpkins.com/ Gold https://shop.napalmrecords.com/thesmashingpumpkins https://www.napalmrecordsamerica.com/store/smashingpumpkins Silver http://www.resident-music.com/productdetails&product_id=58370 https://www.normanrecords.com/records/172853-smashing-pumpkins-shiny-and-oh-so-bright Edited September 14, 2018 by craigeduk bungie and beags 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helsabot Posted September 14, 2018 Share Posted September 14, 2018 Solara was meh but I like the new single quite a lot... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beags Posted September 14, 2018 Share Posted September 14, 2018 Pre-ordered a gold and box set. Amazing! Just spun MtaE to celebrate. Anti-Hero is hands down the best song they've released since Machina II. highfives and CeCeCe 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dreamover Posted September 14, 2018 Share Posted September 14, 2018 I heard something about teal/grey vinyl but could just be a rumor. Also, it looks like purple is only available in a $50 bundle with a shirt, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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