jrodan Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 7 minutes ago, deftbarley said: But you're cool giving money to bootleggers to listen to said fuckhead? You draw a curvy ass line my friend. 1. This doesn’t appear to be a bootleg, as it says Virgin for the label. 2. If it is a bootleg, so long as the bootleggers aren’t using their platform (which is nowhere near the same platform Corgan has) to go on Alex Jones’ podcast, I feel better giving them money. 3. Learn to not only read, but comprehend. Die Laughing and TheGhostOfRandySavage 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deftbarley Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 3 hours ago, jrodan said: 1. This doesn’t appear to be a bootleg, as it says Virgin for the label. 2. If it is a bootleg, so long as the bootleggers aren’t using their platform (which is nowhere near the same platform Corgan has) to go on Alex Jones’ podcast, I feel better giving them money. 3. Learn to not only read, but comprehend. 1. Doesn't matter because I'm addressing the fact you don't care if it's a bootleg or not. 2. I didn't know you were going to research the bootleggers and their platform to make sure they align with your values. Let us know what you find. 3. Your logic defies comprehension. jrodan and Die Laughing 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrodan Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 2 minutes ago, deftbarley said: 1. Doesn't matter because I'm addressing the fact you don't care if it's a bootleg or not. i said "bootleg" not bootleg, because as i have now mentioned multiple times, it does not look like a bootleg. 3 minutes ago, deftbarley said: 2. I didn't know you were going to research the bootleggers and their platform to make sure they align with your values. Let us know what you find. interesting how you can use hyperbole, yet not understand it when it is used by someone else. 5 minutes ago, deftbarley said: 3. Your logic defies comprehension. you are dumb. TheGhostOfRandySavage 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burnthealbum Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 5 hours ago, jrodan said: before becoming a wackadoo Wait, you mean he hasn't always been a wackadoo? jrodan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneThreeOneTwo Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 3 hours ago, jrodan said: as it says Virgin for the label. I don't know why you're putting so much faith in a JPC.de listing tbh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrodan Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 24 minutes ago, burnthealbum said: Wait, you mean he hasn't always been a wackadoo? there is interesting artist wackadoo and there is going on alex jones and talking about lizard people wackadoo. hopefully people can understand the difference. burnthealbum 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrodan Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 Just now, OneThreeOneTwo said: I don't know why you're putting so much faith in a JPC.de listing tbh. as well as the amazon listing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deftbarley Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 2 minutes ago, jrodan said: i said "bootleg" not bootleg, because as i have now mentioned multiple times, it does not look like a bootleg. interesting how you can use hyperbole, yet not understand it when it is used by someone else. you are dumb. I'm not using hyperbole. How do you not see that it doesn't matter what this listing is when you said you'd give money to bootleggers over Corgan? Spend your money how you want but get off your pedestal about how you won't pay the artist if you can "CIRCUMVENT THAT" when we all know bootleggers are a cancer of the hobby. jrodan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DecayToDeath Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 If corgan wasn't bigoted/transphobic n' shit then I would definitely take issue with that, but fuck him lol Die Laughing, jrodan, Plarocks and 1 other 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deftbarley Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 38 minutes ago, DecayToDeath said: If corgan wasn't bigoted/transphobic n' shit then I would definitely take issue with that, but fuck him lol Totally agree. Fuck him for sure. That's not not true. But a lot of people deserve to paid for their work on an official release vs a bootleg. I don't think there's ever a reason to buy a bootleg. It's a fake record just sitting in your collection. But let's not forget, fuck billy corgan. Die Laughing 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrodan Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 4 minutes ago, deftbarley said: Totally agree. Fuck him for sure. That's not not true. But a lot of people deserve to paid for their work on an official release vs a bootleg. I don't think there's ever a reason to buy a bootleg. It's a fake record just sitting in your collection. But let's not forget, fuck billy corgan. Someone is starting to understand nuance! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deftbarley Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 14 minutes ago, jrodan said: Someone is starting to understand nuance! You're not dumb! I'm dumb! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youspinmeround Posted December 22, 2020 Author Share Posted December 22, 2020 https://www.alternativenation.net/smashing-pumpkins-finish-new-machina-album/?fbclid=IwAR1I_NeKgR4yTmSsbNPdf18NknQ6KXwzyiw576F5S4wpuSnzGgVkLXIjONI CeCeCe, faaip de oiad and bjorn 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bjorn Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 Exciting. I don't see Speed Kills on that list though... surely that will be included. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CeCeCe Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 11 hours ago, bjorn said: Exciting. I don't see Speed Kills on that list though... surely that will be included. Yeah not sure if this is the final song list or not, there is about 7 tracks on it not on the original M1 or M2, but there are also more missing beyond Speed Kills (Raindrops + Sunshowers & Wound from M1 / Dross, Go, Innosense, Saturnine & Soul Power from M2) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timsimmons Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 That hack site just took Billy's IG posts and copied the text. There were several days where he didn't give updates. I'm sure everything will be included. CeCeCe 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juliathemenace Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 (edited) If anyone has an Aeroplane box set they want to get rid of or know where I can get one please hook a brother up! Edited December 23, 2020 by heyjoespin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGhostOfRandySavage Posted December 24, 2020 Share Posted December 24, 2020 If anyone is still in the market for the 2011 Siamese Dream, moviemars on eBay allegedly has a few left at close to msrp. Were these really $50 when released? https://www.ebay.com/itm/SIAMESE-DREAM-NEW-VINYL/142990635354?_trkparms=aid%3D111001%26algo%3DREC.SEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D225079%26meid%3D795f59ed81af4ef89ec556254882fb69%26pid%3D100675%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D15%26mehot%3Dpp%26sd%3D353330087757%26itm%3D142990635354%26pmt%3D1%26noa%3D1%26pg%3D2380057&_trksid=p2380057.c100675.m4236&_trkparms=pageci%3A81cdb141-4585-11eb-8c0d-3edd30502ca9|parentrq%3A9250a5a51760a4d362430b73ffddd4a4|iid%3A1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kannibal Posted December 24, 2020 Share Posted December 24, 2020 6 hours ago, MachoHommeRandallSauvage said: If anyone is still in the market for the 2011 Siamese Dream, moviemars on eBay allegedly has a few left at close to msrp. Were these really $50 when released? https://www.ebay.com/itm/SIAMESE-DREAM-NEW-VINYL/142990635354?_trkparms=aid%3D111001%26algo%3DREC.SEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D225079%26meid%3D795f59ed81af4ef89ec556254882fb69%26pid%3D100675%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D15%26mehot%3Dpp%26sd%3D353330087757%26itm%3D142990635354%26pmt%3D1%26noa%3D1%26pg%3D2380057&_trksid=p2380057.c100675.m4236&_trkparms=pageci%3A81cdb141-4585-11eb-8c0d-3edd30502ca9|parentrq%3A9250a5a51760a4d362430b73ffddd4a4|iid%3A1 No, the price went up dramatically sometime after TAFH box set came out and they realized people would pay $30 per 12”. Originally Gish was $20 and SD was $25. Now SD goes for $50 list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGhostOfRandySavage Posted December 24, 2020 Share Posted December 24, 2020 32 minutes ago, kannibal said: No, the price went up dramatically sometime after TAFH box set came out and they realized people would pay $30 per 12”. Originally Gish was $20 and SD was $25. Now SD goes for $50 list. Blech. Terrible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
throwgncpr Posted December 24, 2020 Share Posted December 24, 2020 7 hours ago, MachoHommeRandallSauvage said: Blech. Terrible. ^ this. It's why I still don't own SD. Fuck $50 for this... kjkenney 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mirrorboxer Posted December 25, 2020 Share Posted December 25, 2020 On 12/23/2020 at 4:24 PM, heyjoespin said: If anyone has an Aeroplane box set they want to get rid of or know where I can get one please hook a brother up! I bought this, not looking to sell, but don’t think that it is a good release and definitely not worth the current price. There is WAY to much sibilance. No idea if it’s just my copy or if that was how they EQd for the vinyl. My CD box set was a significantly better experience for me though. I generally prefer vinyl, but not this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faaip de oiad Posted December 26, 2020 Share Posted December 26, 2020 Gish wasavailablefor$11 onAmazonforafewweeks. iwas alsoableto obtainacopyin “nm/like new” for$12 aswell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dreamover Posted December 26, 2020 Share Posted December 26, 2020 23 hours ago, mirrorboxer said: I bought this, not looking to sell, but don’t think that it is a good release and definitely not worth the current price. There is WAY to much sibilance. No idea if it’s just my copy or if that was how they EQd for the vinyl. My CD box set was a significantly better experience for me though. I generally prefer vinyl, but not this. Mine sounds great. Listen to it all the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timsimmons Posted December 26, 2020 Share Posted December 26, 2020 Agreed. Sounds pretty good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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