mcpherson123 Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 Just now, originalfake said: You should have demanded better back in 2012. Do you really think they are going to do something now? I don't know. I haven't tried but I should think that as long as they are producing corrected copies of the material, a person should be able to get such treatment as a replacement for a botched expensive item. Its not like the company is long defunct and the material is completely out of production. Its clearly back in production. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timsimmons Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 its like the plague. I have 30 + years. I have spent my life to be here now today. Can I ask a question?? what have you spent youre entire life dream on? I am blessed to have my name on the dead wax. I am broke, 2 fucked up marriges and single. I dont give a shit about amazon. I cut the re release,and everyone wants to bring me down. just return it faaip de oiad and originalfake 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
originalfake Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 43 minutes ago, mcpherson123 said: I don't know. I haven't tried but I should think that as long as they are producing corrected copies of the material, a person should be able to get such treatment as a replacement for a botched expensive item. Its not like the company is long defunct and the material is completely out of production. Its clearly back in production. I imagine they are going to tell you to contact where you bought it. Most of the time when there are pressing issues like that, that's the route they tell you to take. We don't even know if the same company that pressed the 2012 run is who is pressing this run. I'm not saying you shouldn't try if you really want to but given that it's been damn near a decade, I would not expect them (and we don't even know who the "them" is here) to do anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timsimmons Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 People complained back in 2012 and started a petition and everything and Virgin universal did nothing then. No way are they doing anything now. originalfake 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcpherson123 Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 4 minutes ago, timsimmons said: People complained back in 2012 and started a petition and everything and Virgin universal did nothing then. No way are they doing anything now. Incorrect. That whole petition and campaign is WHY THERE IS a properly mastered version today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcpherson123 Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 9 minutes ago, originalfake said: I imagine they are going to tell you to contact where you bought it. Most of the time when there are pressing issues like that, that's the route they tell you to take. We don't even know if the same company that pressed the 2012 run is who is pressing this run. I'm not saying you shouldn't try if you really want to but given that it's been damn near a decade, I would not expect them (and we don't even know who the "them" is here) to do anything. I hear what you're saying. My point is we should expect and demand better than what you're expecting from them. Demand big business do better and make a scene and a lot of times it forces them to do better and honor a purchase that has been unsatisfactorily met. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timsimmons Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 (edited) 8 minutes ago, mcpherson123 said: Incorrect. That whole petition and campaign is WHY THERE IS a properly mastered version today. Ok. But they didn’t replace anyones either Edited May 19, 2022 by timsimmons Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcpherson123 Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 1 minute ago, timsimmons said: Ok. But they didn’t replace anyones either I don't know how either one of us could be totally certain of that. I'm pretty sure people on this very board in possibly this very thread around 8 to 10 years ago did report getting replacements. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andynz Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 Just now, mcpherson123 said: I don't know how either one of us could be totally certain of that. I'm pretty sure people on this very board in possibly this very thread around 8 to 10 years ago did report getting replacements. They replaced mine. mcpherson123 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ntslash Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 Amazon replaced mine, but the only real difference I notice between the pressings is the last few seconds of Zero, which is rife with distortion anyway. Maybe one other track was like that. Otherwise, it sounds pretty much the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timsimmons Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 But the replacements were just the 2012 version and not the 2014 repress, right? So I assume the replacements were also rife with IGD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andynz Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 I had my 2012 replaced with a non-IGD version. Zero actually sounds good. I’d have to go back into the archives to find out when it was replaced. mcpherson123 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcpherson123 Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 12 minutes ago, timsimmons said: But the replacements were just the 2012 version and not the 2014 repress, right? So I assume the replacements were also rife with IGD If I remember correctly, they actually rushed a remaster job and didn't make any indication on it other than what would have been new etchings in the deadwax from the new cut. I'm pretty sure what we are calling the 2014 edition (thank you, discogs) is really just the rushed remaster due to all the complaints from the 2012 debacle. I think the 2012's were still populating shelves side by side with the fixed one but by the time there were copies available again after being gone in 2014 everything available was the fixed one. andynz 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcpherson123 Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 ...AAAAAAAANNNNND: "You've maybe heard the saying "Anticipation is an important part of life. The idea of waiting for something makes it more exciting." We'd like to ship Smashing Pumpkins/Mellon Collie & The Infinite Sadness, that you ordered this second; unfortunately it's currently sold out. If you can stand the anticipation a bit longer, we'll cancel this item order - BUT - we're happy to notify you when the product comes back in stock, and you can reorder it then. If you paid for this order with a credit card you have not been charged, we do not charge until your order ships. If you paid with Paypal you will be issued a refund within 72 hours. We are no longer going to offer backordered products for sale at acousticsounds.com. We hope this customer reminder system we're instituting avoids long order delays and mounting frustration by customers seeking popular hard-to-find titles or audio gear. Especially for our international customers, whose orders must be filled in total before that order ships. Again, we're sorry the item you ordered is sold out and not currently available. Rest assured, when it comes back in stock we'll notify you that it's available so that you can reorder. Thanks for being an acousticsounds.com customer and letting us serve you. Acoustic Sounds, Inc. Customer Service" Blow me down. Dear John'd on that one. If any of you who ordered after I posted the link get it then congratulations. Maybe I'll actually GET ON this whole contact the label strategy now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xbpr Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 I sent Virgin an email asking about a replacement back when the fixed version was released. Never got a response. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
originalfake Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 Plaid Room: https://www.plaidroomrecords.com/products/b-smashing-pumpkins-the-b-br-i-mellon-collie-and-the-infinite-sadness-i Damaged version for $10 less. https://www.plaidroomrecords.com/products/damaged-the-smashing-pumpkins-mellon-collie-and-the-infinite-sadness-strcit-limit-1-per-customer?_pos=6&_psq=smashing&_ss=e&_v=1.0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcpherson123 Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 Damn. Missed it again... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason202 Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 Does anyone have their 2022 pressing of Siamese Dream in hand yet? Mine was delivered late last night and I won't be able to pick it up till after work. Just wondering if anyone knows for sure where these were pressed and if they're any different than previous pressings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timsimmons Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 13 hours ago, mcpherson123 said: If I remember correctly, they actually rushed a remaster job and didn't make any indication on it other than what would have been new etchings in the deadwax from the new cut. I'm pretty sure what we are calling the 2014 edition (thank you, discogs) is really just the rushed remaster due to all the complaints from the 2012 debacle. I think the 2012's were still populating shelves side by side with the fixed one but by the time there were copies available again after being gone in 2014 everything available was the fixed one. This is my memory as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youspinmeround Posted May 20, 2022 Author Share Posted May 20, 2022 I can't believe that people think 10 years later someone is replacing a copy of their record for free, as if the intent of this repress was for that issue. They corrected and offered replacements for the issue way back. BTW, my copy never had IGD on it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcpherson123 Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 1 hour ago, youspinmeround said: I can't believe that people think 10 years later someone is replacing a copy of their record for free, as if the intent of this repress was for that issue. They corrected and offered replacements for the issue way back. BTW, my copy never had IGD on it Think about which side of capital your mindset is conditioned to protect and defend. Hint: its not the consumer. Even if you're caught up in the issue of likelihood based on a pragmatic view that insinuates the tendency of a large business to blow off a person who was delivered a poorly manufactured that was acknowledged as poor and re-manufactured from scratch just because its been 10 years. Think about whose side you're taking by default and reconsider the utility of defending the party that you definitely don't belong to in a categorical and economic sense. I'm going to go out on a limb and assume that you are not worldwide corporate record label. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iwokeinrelief Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 (edited) Available on the Smashing Pumpkins site again: https://store.smashingpumpkins.com/collections/new-items/products/mellon-collie-and-the-infinite-sadness-4lp-box-set must have been only a few; 3 minutes later it's back to sold out. Edited May 20, 2022 by iwokeinrelief Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcpherson123 Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 3 minutes ago, iwokeinrelief said: Available on the Smashing Pumpkins site again: https://store.smashingpumpkins.com/collections/new-items/products/mellon-collie-and-the-infinite-sadness-4lp-box-set Three minutes later sold out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iwokeinrelief Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 1 minute ago, mcpherson123 said: Three minutes later sold out. lol, just edited my comment to say the same 😂 mcpherson123 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcpherson123 Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 Just now, iwokeinrelief said: lol, just edited my comment to say the same 😂 This shit is bananas... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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