Sad Heart Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 On 3/7/2022 at 9:34 AM, Sad Heart said: Anyone have any info on the latest Elephant repress? Not the 2022 one done by Wes Garland, but the United Record Pressing one by Transfermation on VMP. It’s a non VMP record and it’s $45 which is ridiculous considering the 2022 version is $30 on TMR. https://www.vinylmeplease.com/products/the-white-stripes-elephant It’s the same 2022 version on each site. So VMP is just taking a $30 record and selling it for $45. Not shocked at all. But at least I don’t have to buy from VMP and get a new version of Elephant to listen to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clerk3745 Posted April 1, 2022 Share Posted April 1, 2022 https://thirdmanrecords.com/news/third-man-records-announces-vault-package-52-sleep-dopesmoker mcpherson123 and natenomm 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcpherson123 Posted April 1, 2022 Share Posted April 1, 2022 Just now, clerk3745 said: https://thirdmanrecords.com/news/third-man-records-announces-vault-package-52-sleep-dopesmoker Just posted this in the Dopesmoker thread. clerk3745 and Bronchitis 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sad Heart Posted April 1, 2022 Share Posted April 1, 2022 On 3/8/2022 at 8:38 PM, Sad Heart said: It’s the same 2022 version on each site. So VMP is just taking a $30 record and selling it for $45. Not shocked at all. But at least I don’t have to buy from VMP and get a new version of Elephant to listen to. Got my 2022 copy of Elephant in and it is the best version of this album. Eats the represses, the CD, and the digital. Wow. You need to get this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aopps42 Posted April 6, 2022 Share Posted April 6, 2022 Thank GOD Jack White is giving us a new pressing of Dopesmoker. It sorely needed a new variant and repress. Mars and TheGhostOfRandySavage 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shelby Posted April 7, 2022 Share Posted April 7, 2022 3 hours ago, aopps42 said: Thank GOD Jack White is giving us a new pressing of Dopesmoker. It sorely needed a new variant and repress. I feel like none of you realize this is the first time it's been mastered from the original tapes. Plus it's not in print so... weird take either way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev. Mike Posted April 7, 2022 Share Posted April 7, 2022 1 hour ago, Coldplay31169 said: I feel like none of you realize this is the first time it's been mastered from the original tapes. Plus it's not in print so... weird take either way. Southern Lord also claimed their pressing was mastered from original tapes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shelby Posted April 7, 2022 Share Posted April 7, 2022 18 minutes ago, Rev. Mike said: Southern Lord also claimed their pressing was mastered from original tapes. Where? This is a bold statement if that's true Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hype Posted April 7, 2022 Share Posted April 7, 2022 (edited) I'm not familiar enough to say for sure but maybe they're being tricky with there wordplay and it's the first time the unreleased audio AND the Dopesmoker album are mastered from the original tapes TOGETHER since 10 years ago it was just the regular boring non super deluxe version for the mere peasants but we can now thank the almighty great Lawdd Jack White for blessing us with the full thing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Also, to make it very clear! Carl "Mutha Fucking" Saff does not only master from OG tapes but he does it in a masterfully "precise" way. https://www.earsplitcompound.com/sleep-–-dopesmoker-double-lp-repressing-now-available-through-southern-lord-recordings/ From 2012 Quote This past Spring, Southern Lord Recordings unleashed a deluxe reissue of SLEEP‘s mammoth Dopesmoker LP on which the original studio tapes were completely remastered presenting the legendary album as the band had initially intended. The audio is clearer, louder, and offers up a true representation of SLEEP‘s hour-plus long Weedian chronicle. It even features brand new artwork by longtime SLEEP artist Arik Roper as well as an unreleased live recording of one of the band’s all-time best performances, “Holy Mountain” from San Francisco’s I-Beam in 1994. Edited April 7, 2022 by hype Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shelby Posted April 7, 2022 Share Posted April 7, 2022 13 minutes ago, hype said: I'm not familiar enough to say for sure but maybe they're being tricky with there wordplay and it's the first time the unreleased audio AND the Dopesmoker album are mastered from the original tapes TOGETHER since 10 years ago it was just the regular boring non super deluxe version for the mere peasants but we can now thank the almighty great Lawdd Jack White for blessing us with the full thing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Also, to make it very clear! Carl "Mutha Fucking" Saff does not only master from OG tapes but he does it in a masterfully "precise" way. https://www.earsplitcompound.com/sleep-–-dopesmoker-double-lp-repressing-now-available-through-southern-lord-recordings/ From 2012 Nah if you read the whole third man description that point is specifically referring to the 60 minute album. To me the way Southern Lord worded that is far more tricksy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shelby Posted April 7, 2022 Share Posted April 7, 2022 Y'all really hate Jack White lol I think his music sucks sure but it sounds like he personally hurt you 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek™ Posted April 7, 2022 Share Posted April 7, 2022 1 hour ago, hype said: being tricky with there wordplay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGhostOfRandySavage Posted April 7, 2022 Share Posted April 7, 2022 1 hour ago, Coldplay31169 said: Nah if you read the whole third man description that point is specifically referring to the 60 minute album. To me the way Southern Lord worded that is far more tricksy. Not to belabor this too much further, but on third man it says "60+ minute," which should indeed refer to the 63 minute version of the song which is what Southern Lord was putting out as well. It does seem like it needs additional clarification if they're going to make the claim they appear to be making. It may be talking about the alternate version of part 1 or the "solo" version of part 1 included with this that would be the first time they have been remastered from the original tapes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shelby Posted April 7, 2022 Share Posted April 7, 2022 14 minutes ago, MachoHommeRandallSauvage said: Not to belabor this too much further, but on third man it says "60+ minute," which should indeed refer to the 63 minute version of the song which is what Southern Lord was putting out as well. It does seem like it needs additional clarification if they're going to make the claim they appear to be making. It may be talking about the alternate version of part 1 or the "solo" version of part 1 included with this that would be the first time they have been remastered from the original tapes. The writeup is really corny but they have a dedicated paragraph for each "feature" and mention specifics about that bonus stuff too entirely separate from the original tapes claim aimed at the original album part of the writeup. To me that Southern Lord writeup is super fucking weird by comparison. Like, if that's the way the band wanted it on purpose why do they have such a good relationship with Third Man and are now doing it this way? Why did the original need to be louder aka brickwalled? Why did they transfer the entire rights to Third Man which will be evident when the LP comes back to streaming platforms? I wouldn't be surprised if Third Man / Sleep now bought the original tapes with full album rights and Southern Lord couldn't actually get access to them despite licensing the album for vinyl ten years ago. Labels that license something for vinyl rarely have that kind of access and love calling shit remastered when they actually had to start from scratch to master from a digital source. I dunno, just seems like everywhere I see this mentioned it's just man babies complaining about yet another variant of this. If anything y'all should be annoyed at Southern Lord for the copious small run variants and alternate packaging over and over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shelby Posted April 7, 2022 Share Posted April 7, 2022 51 minutes ago, Derek™ said: Lol I was trying not to point that out and pretend it was an actual somewhat intelligent being trying to argue with me but I doubt there's anything he has to say about the subject that isn't Jack White bias. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sh_tluck Posted April 7, 2022 Share Posted April 7, 2022 10 hours ago, Coldplay31169 said: I dunno, just seems like everywhere I see this mentioned it's just man babies complaining about yet another variant of this. I feel like most people in this thread are just expressing that they don't find it to be a very special release compared to what's already out there, and you're getting way bent out of shape by it. Those who want it will buy it, those who don't will not. In related news, internet forums remain unchanged since their inception. lexicondevil 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shelby Posted April 7, 2022 Share Posted April 7, 2022 6 minutes ago, Sh_tluck said: I feel like most people in this thread are just expressing that they don't find it to be a very special release compared to what's already out there, and you're getting way bent out of shape by it. Those who want it will buy it, those who don't will not. In related news, internet forums remain unchanged since their inception. I said "everywhere" and I'm not getting bent out of shape I just don't type like I'm fluffing someone up my bad. I think Third Man fans might actually be soft shelled crab Jesus christ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clerk3745 Posted April 7, 2022 Share Posted April 7, 2022 mfw whatever is happening here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonedigger Posted April 8, 2022 Share Posted April 8, 2022 On 4/7/2022 at 1:54 AM, Coldplay31169 said: The writeup is really corny but they have a dedicated paragraph for each "feature" and mention specifics about that bonus stuff too entirely separate from the original tapes claim aimed at the original album part of the writeup. To me that Southern Lord writeup is super fucking weird by comparison. Like, if that's the way the band wanted it on purpose why do they have such a good relationship with Third Man and are now doing it this way? Why did the original need to be louder aka brickwalled? Why did they transfer the entire rights to Third Man which will be evident when the LP comes back to streaming platforms? I wouldn't be surprised if Third Man / Sleep now bought the original tapes with full album rights and Southern Lord couldn't actually get access to them despite licensing the album for vinyl ten years ago. Labels that license something for vinyl rarely have that kind of access and love calling shit remastered when they actually had to start from scratch to master from a digital source. I dunno, just seems like everywhere I see this mentioned it's just man babies complaining about yet another variant of this. If anything y'all should be annoyed at Southern Lord for the copious small run variants and alternate packaging over and over. I've always been fine with how the 2012 Remaster sounded and but going back to the original southern lord press release it is kind of strange wording now that you mention it but I don't know if it's sneaky word play or what. They said "the original tapes have been remastered" not "mastered from the original tapes". I don't know if it's worth making anything out of that but in light of the Third Man claiming this was the first time mastered from the original tapes it makes me wonder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shelby Posted April 8, 2022 Share Posted April 8, 2022 3 hours ago, bonedigger said: I've always been fine with how the 2012 Remaster sounded and but going back to the original southern lord press release it is kind of strange wording now that you mention it but I don't know if it's sneaky word play or what. They said "the original tapes have been remastered" not "mastered from the original tapes". I don't know if it's worth making anything out of that but in light of the Third Man claiming this was the first time mastered from the original tapes it makes me wonder. Yeah that's how I see it. You don't remaster the tapes themselves ever you create a master from the tapes. And if that isn't acceptable you remaster, again, from the tapes not the tapes themself. The Third Man writeup is totally a jab at them I think by specifically saying the original tapes haven't been used before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shelby Posted April 8, 2022 Share Posted April 8, 2022 15 hours ago, clerk3745 said: mfw whatever is happening here This thread can't handle their weed at all. Buncha really bad takes from clouded judgement and an extreme lack of critical thinking because Jack White bad man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clerk3745 Posted April 8, 2022 Share Posted April 8, 2022 hahah to each their own @Coldplay31169, i used to love white stripes and certainly dont hate jack white but I get it I guess. I just love me some Sleep and pretty much anything Matt Pike. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shelby Posted April 8, 2022 Share Posted April 8, 2022 5 minutes ago, clerk3745 said: hahah to each their own @Coldplay31169, i used to love white stripes and certainly dont hate jack white but I get it I guess. I just love me some Sleep and pretty much anything Matt Pike. Yeah I'm literally here just cuz I like Sleep. Making fun of this pressing is weird no matter what the reason is my main point since it's not a record that's even currently in print. There's just a circle jerk of opinions that have no reason behind them and I couldn't let it go 😅 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhulud Posted April 10, 2022 Share Posted April 10, 2022 So. I want to jump in for the Vault release for Sleep. But I can't decide if to go with the Quarterly or Annual sub. Any thoughts and/or advice? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CeCeCe Posted April 10, 2022 Share Posted April 10, 2022 5 hours ago, jhulud said: So. I want to jump in for the Vault release for Sleep. But I can't decide if to go with the Quarterly or Annual sub. Any thoughts and/or advice? Guess it depends on how much you love the White Stripes/JB as out of an annual sub it's almost certain that at least 2 of them will be something from them. Out of 6 packages before Sleep there have been 3 WS, 1 JB plus Bob Dylan & Carole King sets. With the 2JB lps dropped in quick succession it's a good bet one of the next 3 will be some kind of live set based off the current tour. Possible that there could be a Prince release based around the Camille LP they've confirmed they will be releasing (although that might just come out outside the vault). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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