Bladewillisisdead Posted June 23, 2014 Share Posted June 23, 2014 So if you want to use the slippery slope argument one way, doesn't it also work the other? If kissing a girl on the lips is this heinous action that should be derided by all people who are pro woman's rights and equality, would you respond the same way if he kissed her cheek? Hugged her? Held her hand? Stood within one foot of her? Where's the dividing line between a woman's rights violation and dude just being an ass? All of those things are a violation. Really it's human rights. It just so happens that these aren't things that regularly happen to men. Don't touch someone who doesn't want to be touched. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thejesseb Posted June 23, 2014 Share Posted June 23, 2014 For anyone that cares Ryan said he would be addressing the whole thing tomorrow on his podcast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bladewillisisdead Posted June 23, 2014 Share Posted June 23, 2014 For anyone that cares Ryan said he would be addressing the whole thing tomorrow on his podcast. The catch is you have to listen to his podcast though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Out of Breath Records Posted June 23, 2014 Share Posted June 23, 2014 fuck...who listens to podcasts Fairmount 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bladewillisisdead Posted June 23, 2014 Share Posted June 23, 2014 I don't even listen to podcasts from people I like and want to support. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Out of Breath Records Posted June 23, 2014 Share Posted June 23, 2014 I don't even listen to podcasts from people I like and want to support. for real. i think the only "podcast" i ever listened to/watched was a free one off itunes. it was the first pokemon episode dubbed over by these two guys really badly, and they were just swearing and saying stupid shit over the mouth movements of ash and pikachu. they also played the girl voices Fairmount and AlexMBentley 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebiglebowski Posted June 23, 2014 Share Posted June 23, 2014 Don't touch someone who doesn't want to be touched. While true, this answer shirked my question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Team Avatar Posted June 23, 2014 Share Posted June 23, 2014 Where's the dividing line between a woman's rights violation and dude just being an ass? There isn't a line. Being an ass never justifies the violation of someones rights. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebiglebowski Posted June 23, 2014 Share Posted June 23, 2014 By woman's rights I mean a sexual crime. Somewhere out there is a dividing line between sexual misconduct and general misconduct. There HAS to be. The initial comments were so far skewed towards this being some kind of subtle form of rape that I was just pointing out the inconsistency in that thought. Saying one doesn't justify the other is again trying to dodge the question with one of these "never ever" statements that doesn't reflect the reality that there are small offenses and large ones, and a kiss is pretty far on the smaller side of things in the grander scheme of things. That's all from me. I don't like defending douchebags. I just want to make sure the evil people in the world stand out from the stupid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Team Avatar Posted June 23, 2014 Share Posted June 23, 2014 I see what you're saying. I can't actually answer that question, but somewhat related - I personally think it is important to treat all issues, big and small, with a similar attitude, 'that it is not okay, here is why, and if you need more help understanding why it's not okay to do that, don't hesitate to ask'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aflycon Posted June 23, 2014 Share Posted June 23, 2014 Somewhere out there is a dividing line between sexual misconduct and general misconduct. There HAS to be. For sure. Every day I see people trying to expand the definition of rape to fit their agenda and that's not okay. You can't trivialize the experience of actual rape victims just to make your "social justice" more applicable, or (as I most often see this tactic used, especially on tumblr), to make yourself the victor in the ongoing game of "Who Can Be the Biggest Victim?" This line between sexual misconduct and general misconduct definitely does exist. Some people would tell you're crossing that line by standing near someone who doesn't want you to, but in my opinion it's the difference between touching someone without their consent, and doing so in a sexual manner (e.g. laying a hand on someone violently vs. groping without invitation). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 24, 2014 Share Posted June 24, 2014 i know this is the shit on bands thread, but i'd so much rather shit all over this conversation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Youinreverse Posted June 24, 2014 Share Posted June 24, 2014 aflycon, TheWindBlower, Brock N Roll and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kjkenney Posted June 24, 2014 Share Posted June 24, 2014 This gif is FANTASTIC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aflycon Posted June 24, 2014 Share Posted June 24, 2014 I've been watching it over and over and it is funny every time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dawhizz Posted June 24, 2014 Share Posted June 24, 2014 Jack Johnson is awful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sacredheart Posted June 24, 2014 Share Posted June 24, 2014 i know this is the shit on bands thread, but i'd so much rather shit all over this conversation. I hate everyone here for making me agree with Ry. nothnks 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nothnks Posted June 24, 2014 Share Posted June 24, 2014 Who told him it was a good idea to carry all of those things? Why did he trip? Why was the hose already on? This gif is stupid and I hate fun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chriswamsley Posted June 24, 2014 Share Posted June 24, 2014 Who told him it was a good idea to carry all of those things? Why did he trip? Why was the hose already on? This gif is stupid and I hate fun DO YOU TRY TO HOLD TO MAN THINGS AND WALK ALL OF THE TIME TRY THIS PRODUCT nothnks 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nothnks Posted June 24, 2014 Share Posted June 24, 2014 DO YOU TRY TO HOLD TO MAN THINGS AND WALK ALL OF THE TIME TRY THIS PRODUCT I'LL TAKE 80 chriswamsley 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Out of Breath Records Posted June 24, 2014 Share Posted June 24, 2014 downvotable offense to listen to a pokemon podcast AlexMBentley 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aflycon Posted June 24, 2014 Share Posted June 24, 2014 downvotable offense to be elasalle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Out of Breath Records Posted June 24, 2014 Share Posted June 24, 2014 downvotable offense to be elasalle The yolo is strong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thejesseb Posted June 24, 2014 Share Posted June 24, 2014 Link to podcast where Ryan explains everything. You be the judge. http://bigsnacker.tumblr.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chriswamsley Posted June 24, 2014 Share Posted June 24, 2014 I really dislike when people use the "im kidding" defense for anything so fuck that band for being shitbags and also putting out shitty music. "buy this title fight rip, yeah we know its lame but buy it" kjkenney 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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