Princess Logan Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 I'm totally guilty of knocking off the belt and it drives me crazy. But I don't mind the dustcover at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kforkevin777 Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 I'm totally guilty of knocking off the belt and it drives me crazy. But I don't mind the dustcover at all. I'm sure I'll probably do the same thing when i get mine. Haha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CosmicFade Posted April 27, 2014 Share Posted April 27, 2014 Haven't knocked the belt off, but my fingers have definitely grazed it a time or two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrroey Posted April 27, 2014 Share Posted April 27, 2014 I was wondering this as well. If I do an Orbit Plus with all the bells and whistles (including a preamp), it puts me about the same price as the Pro-Ject Debut Carbon.If you're thinking about spending 299 for the plus then just go with the pro-ject debut iii or spend a bit more for the debut carbon.$179 is a great buy for a stylish decent manual tt. For 299 you're better off going with a tried and true brand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Questhate Posted May 8, 2014 Share Posted May 8, 2014 If you're thinking about spending 299 for the plus then just go with the pro-ject debut iii or spend a bit more for the debut carbon. $179 is a great buy for a stylish decent manual tt. For 299 you're better off going with a tried and true brand. +1 Pardon if this link was already posted but here is a comparison of the U-Turn against a couple entry level models (yikes at the u-turn speed accuracy numbers):http://thewirecutter.com/reviews/best-turntable/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Questhate Posted May 8, 2014 Share Posted May 8, 2014 Surprised nobody has posted about the speed accuracy thing before... is it really that bad? The strange thing is reading this comparison was the first time I ever heard about this issue. Every other review I've read for this turntable has never complained about it, and I read one that said the U-turn spins very accurately at both 33 1/3 and 45 RPM... Well, judging by the set-up of most folks here, this isn't exactly an audiophile forum. Not saying that's necessarily a bad thing, since audiophile forums have their own set of turn-offs as well. But my point is that this forum tends to attract folks whose main reason for getting into this hobby is simply about collecting the vinyl itself -- not necessarily for sound quality reasons. You can tell this by the plethora of set-ups that are posted with bookshelf speakers sitting directly next to someone's turntable. I'd say most listeners here aren't the most discerning (once again, not necessarily a bad thing). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbbrew22 Posted May 9, 2014 Share Posted May 9, 2014 I was kind of confused by the article, it was stated that equipment used to test the turntables was valued at $30,000+ and also stated that an iOS app and another software program was used. Anyone have an idea of what the expensive equipment was that was used for testing? Apologies if it was stated in the article and I missed it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Saint Posted May 9, 2014 Share Posted May 9, 2014 When I finally upgrade, it will still be between an Orbit and a Project Debut Carbon. The AT-LP120 is ugly, in my opinion, and for that reason alone, I will never purchase it, even if it means I'll spend a little extra. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Questhate Posted May 9, 2014 Share Posted May 9, 2014 The reviewer said it spun accurately in this review: http://www.analogplanet.com/content/u-turn%E2%80%99s-remarkable-179-orbit-turntable-crosley-killer Not sure if this person is judging the table by audiophile standards or not, but is it really such a drawback that people shouldn't purchase this turntable? Kind of disappointing to find out about this after I spent the money on the turntable, never found a review that had pointed it out before then. Actually, if you go back and read, Fremer says: The raw frequency deviation was significant at around ±.5% but once it was low pass filtered to remove record eccentricity induced wow it was down to very acceptable levels especially for a turntable at this low price. So he also found frequency deviation to be significant, but it's strange that he measured around 0.5% off while the other reviewer measured closer to 0.75% deviation. Both measures got better after a low-pass filtered was applied -- but still speed accuracy is a step behind the Pro-Ject or Audio Technica. But Fremer's review does note that the speed issues are "down to very acceptable levels especially for a turntable at this low price." I don't read that to mean it's absolutely speed accurate, but more like it's good for this $200 price range (ie Crosley). No one is saying this is a bad turntable AT ALL. For the price, it completely blows away Crosley's. And I bet most people can't even notice 0.5% of speed deviation. There gets to the a point where objective measurements don't correlate to subjective listening anymore -- although it doees help to have data points out there to make informed decisions. My main point was that once you start getting to the Orbit Plus price level, you should absolutely cross-shop some of the more established competitors like the Pro-Ject or the Rega RP1. I was kind of confused by the article, it was stated that equipment used to test the turntables was valued at $30,000+ and also stated that an iOS app and another software program was used. Anyone have an idea of what the expensive equipment was that was used for testing? Apologies if it was stated in the article and I missed it. No, I agree it is misleading and the author seems to just want to brag about his equipment. I assume he had $30,000 worth of stereo equipment hooked up to the turntables, but his measurements were taken using an iOS app called Platter Speed. It's the same app that Michael Fremer used in his Analog Planet article as well to test turntable speed accuracy. weinerdog, FueledByVinyl and mrroey 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 That wirecutter review is trash and was dubunked over at AudioKarma. If you read between the lines you'll see that all of the turntables they reccomend, they have endorsement deals with through Amazon, which means they get money whenever someone buys one of those tables through their website. Coincidentally, the Orbit can only be purchased directly from U-Turn. Doing some basic background on the "reviewer", you'll also find he's a guy who co-edits home theatre websites and has no apparent background with turntables. So much for journalistic integrity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kforkevin777 Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 I sort of laughed a bit while I was reading that Wirecutter review. He's been reviewing audio equipment for literally half a decade. That sounded funny to me. Like there's people around who have been doing it for literally half a century. Idk. Maybe that was just funny to me. But I agree with the sentiment that the guy sorta seemed to just be bragging about his equipment. I looked at the Debut Carbon, but I just can't justify the extra $100 or $150. I also love the way the Orbit looks, which I know isn't a good reason, but going from my first table, the AT-LP60, to the Orbit is plenty of a step-up for me, and I like the idea of supporting a small, new American business who I haven't really heard anything had about. I'm excited to see what some of you guys who are getting these in think when you get them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Princess Logan Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 I still really love mine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sillybarry Posted May 12, 2014 Share Posted May 12, 2014 still cant wait for mine... 2 weeks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sergeantscruffy Posted May 12, 2014 Share Posted May 12, 2014 My Orbit is a dream. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinxabney Posted May 12, 2014 Share Posted May 12, 2014 still cant wait for mine... 2 weeks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holland623 Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 for those of you that have ordered a custom turntable from U-Turn, how close to the 'week of' was it once you received your table? I emailed to get a status update and see if I was still on target to receive mine based off of the delivery calendar estimate, and I received a very non-committal response explaining that it is merely an estimate and many factors can alter the actual time the table leaves the shop. please note, this isn't a slight on the company at all, I'm simply trying to get a sample of others' experience... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alogical Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 Pretty sure it doesn't matter whether its custom or not, they put each table together the same way. I ordered mine on Jan 1 and got it April 3rd, just to give you an idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinxabney Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 for those of you that have ordered a custom turntable from U-Turn, how close to the 'week of' was it once you received your table? I emailed to get a status update and see if I was still on target to receive mine based off of the delivery calendar estimate, and I received a very non-committal response explaining that it is merely an estimate and many factors can alter the actual time the table leaves the shop. please note, this isn't a slight on the company at all, I'm simply trying to get a sample of others' experience... Seems to me like they are doing the best they can do deliver a quality product. It's very few people filling a lot of complicated orders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holland623 Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 Pretty sure it doesn't matter whether its custom or not, they put each table together the same way. I ordered mine on Jan 1 and got it April 3rd, just to give you an idea. word. Thanks for the response. Just getting anxious, excited for the upgrade. Seems to me like they are doing the best they can do deliver a quality product. It's very few people filling a lot of complicated orders. Totally, I'm super-stoked to support the little guy. I realize that it takes time, I was merely looking for a sample of others experience. I'm hoping next week's delivery estimate stays true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drownmeinestrogen Posted May 17, 2014 Share Posted May 17, 2014 So I'm planning on purchasing one of these in the next week or so. Should I upgrade to the acrylic platter? This will be my first TT that's really worth a damn, and I wanna get something that I won't feel like replacing any time soon. I know a lot of people suggest springing for the Pro-Ject, but I'm more keen on supporting these guys, so I'm not really leaning in that direction at this time. Is the difference in platter noticeable enough for a relatively novice listener such as myself to justify the extra money? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanielJ Posted May 20, 2014 Share Posted May 20, 2014 for those of you that have ordered a custom turntable from U-Turn, how close to the 'week of' was it once you received your table? I emailed to get a status update and see if I was still on target to receive mine based off of the delivery calendar estimate, and I received a very non-committal response explaining that it is merely an estimate and many factors can alter the actual time the table leaves the shop. please note, this isn't a slight on the company at all, I'm simply trying to get a sample of others' experience... I'm currently in the 'week of' and am waiting for a tracking number. The delays have been a bit disappointing, but the customer service has more than made up for it. I share the sentiment of others in that these guys are doing the best they can, and I am very much appreciative of their hard work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holland623 Posted May 20, 2014 Share Posted May 20, 2014 I'm currently in the 'week of' and am waiting for a tracking number. The delays have been a bit disappointing, but the customer service has more than made up for it. I share the sentiment of others in that these guys are doing the best they can, and I am very much appreciative of their hard work. I'm in the same boat hoping to receive shipping notice this week... I've accepted that it might not happen. I totally understand the situation. I could have gone with another option, but like others in the thread, the custom handmade product was too exciting to pass up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeTerrain Posted May 20, 2014 Share Posted May 20, 2014 @mka (i cant quote things for some reason) you can buy it without the acrylic platter and then upgrade the platter later. they sell just the platter too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drownmeinestrogen Posted May 20, 2014 Share Posted May 20, 2014 Yeah, I definitely considered that, but I think I'm just springing for the acrylic anyway. Thanks for the heads-up! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alogical Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 Check your spam for their email! Got home from work one day to find my TT and took me a while to find the tracking info cause it was in spam. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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