Derek™ Posted August 7, 2019 Share Posted August 7, 2019 Just now, holyvacantsholyhell said: I’ve been here for a year or so and I’ve never seen someone get the banhammer. Will today be the day? I sure hope so. Since we should bring it back around to Tool, I gotta say I’ve never really tried to get into them and I’ve been trying since Friday and I’m just sort of lost with all the material available. What’s regarded as their best work? I really dig the new song though and I PO’d that stupid ass CD A lot of people cite Lateralus as their crown jewel but for a first-time listener, I always thought it’d be a little dense. For me, Ænima is where it’s at. Timeless production, incredibly bass-drum interplay, memorable interludes, and at least one guaranteed 10/10 moment on every (actual) song. It’s really held up for me. drewberinger and jeromium 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek™ Posted August 7, 2019 Share Posted August 7, 2019 Also credit where credit is due: Zay and Gatorpride have been banned, along with several others. Tug comes to mind, too. They all get to rejoin which sort of defeats the purpose but the moderators do pay attention to reports and act accordingly. MD82 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stl_ben Posted August 7, 2019 Share Posted August 7, 2019 Real trolls steal users names and post for months with no consequences.....pretty sure the mods have a pretty laissez-faire attitude on this. holyvacantsholyhell 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faaip de oiad Posted August 7, 2019 Share Posted August 7, 2019 7 minutes ago, holyvacantsholyhell said: I’ve been here for a year or so and I’ve never seen someone get the banhammer. Will today be the day? I sure hope so. Since we should bring it back around to Tool, I gotta say I’ve never really tried to get into them and I’ve been trying since Friday and I’m just sort of lost with all the material available. What’s regarded as their best work? I really dig the new song though and I PO’d that stupid ass CD Agreed with Derek. Start with Ænima then Lateralus. Then you can decide where to go from there. Personally, I started with Undertow. So you could see the progression I went thru as Tool took over the Alt. Metal scene. bubb4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek™ Posted August 7, 2019 Share Posted August 7, 2019 5 minutes ago, stl_ben said: Real trolls steal users names and post for months with no consequences.....pretty sure the mods have a pretty laissez-faire attitude on this. When / where did this happen? bubb4 and Rip 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhulud Posted August 7, 2019 Share Posted August 7, 2019 21 minutes ago, stl_ben said: Real trolls steal users names and post for months with no consequences.....pretty sure the mods have a pretty laissez-faire attitude on this. FUCK THE MODS!!! bubb4 and tape 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highfives Posted August 7, 2019 Share Posted August 7, 2019 27 minutes ago, Derek™ said: A lot of people cite Lateralus as their crown jewel but for a first-time listener, I always thought it’d be a little dense. For me, Ænima is where it’s at. Timeless production, incredibly bass-drum interplay, memorable interludes, and at least one guaranteed 10/10 moment on every (actual) song. It’s really held up for me. It's certainly their pinnacle of stylistic progression. As for accessibility, Aenima wins out for sure. Being a long-time fan since the early 90s, Aenima was mind blowing when it came out. But when Lateralus dropped, Tool had successfully one-upped themselves in every way. (for me). bubb4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
museummouth Posted August 7, 2019 Share Posted August 7, 2019 Lateralus is their best but starting with that or Aenima is fine. bubb4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGhostOfRandySavage Posted August 7, 2019 Share Posted August 7, 2019 41 minutes ago, Derek™ said: When / where did this happen? Shlebs was Ben for a while, probably a little over a month and nobody really noticed. I was Ben a couple years ago but did get banned for it after like, one post. Derek™ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dantheriver Posted August 7, 2019 Share Posted August 7, 2019 That shit was hilarious unlike this jfc character. Rip, bubb4, holyvacantsholyhell and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shelby Posted August 7, 2019 Share Posted August 7, 2019 Dunno what you're talking about Rip, TheGhostOfRandySavage and Derek™ 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stl_ben Posted August 7, 2019 Share Posted August 7, 2019 5 minutes ago, Sunshine said: Dunno what you're talking about Exactly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satan Posted August 7, 2019 Share Posted August 7, 2019 10 minutes ago, dantheriver said: That shit was hilarious unlike this jfc character. Simple. museummouth, bubb4 and tape 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stl_ben Posted August 7, 2019 Share Posted August 7, 2019 38 minutes ago, jhulud said: FUCK THE MODS!!! Sorry if thats what you got from my post, it wasn't what I intended. Was more a statement that you guys seem pretty hands off, which is both good and bad. I'm on boards where mods are way too hands on and that is often way worse than ones with a Laissez-faire attitude. Just don't think anyone should expect this dumb new kid to get kicked when current members are already running with no leash. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek™ Posted August 7, 2019 Share Posted August 7, 2019 Prove that you’re a good boy who won’t terrorize for fun or shit all over the boards, and the leash comes off. Seems pretty simple to me. That dude somehow retains negative rep, which suggests he’s been around for ages – back when karma was a thing – and hasn’t contributed anything helpful, humorous, entertaining, or otherwise worthwhile to read. The leash is justified. He should also get one of those giant neck cones while we’re at it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
museummouth Posted August 7, 2019 Share Posted August 7, 2019 36 minutes ago, Satan said: Simple. You know you’re a VC veteran when you remember “simple” tape 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek™ Posted August 7, 2019 Share Posted August 7, 2019 4 minutes ago, museummouth said: You know you’re a VC veteran when you remember “simple” I found an ancient folder on an external HD, a couple of weeks ago, that holds a bunch of the really dumb Photoshop shit I whipped up for VC jokes. Some of it goes way back; coming up on a decade now, more or less. The Zay stuff still gets me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holyvacantsholyhell Posted August 7, 2019 Share Posted August 7, 2019 48 minutes ago, stl_ben said: Exactly I do and that shit was fuckin funny. You’re one of the worst users so that helped Derek™, Shelby and mmhmm 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satan Posted August 7, 2019 Share Posted August 7, 2019 20 minutes ago, museummouth said: You know you’re a VC veteran when you remember “simple” Remember the old condom/desensitizer thread? Classic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeromium Posted August 7, 2019 Share Posted August 7, 2019 10 hours ago, mameeshkamowskwoz said: I'm lukewarm on the song, but am interested in hearing the full album to understand it in context. I just have to accept that this is what Tool sounds like post-Aenima. Sometimes it feels like their music is being written by AI... I just wish they would feed some songs from Undertow into the machine. My thoughts exactly. Undertow, Aenima, and Lateralus are distinctly different, even though I recall the lead singles for Aenima and Lateralus at the time having a familiar-sounding, "this sounds like a previous track" guitar riff. Same of course when "Vicarious" was released prior to 10,000 Days, but that album was the first to not feel like much of an evolution. 10 hours ago, justin_cole12 said: Love the new track! I think alot of people aren't going to love it because they are wanting 10,000 days part 2 but I wouldn't expect tool to do that. I guess others have said it by this point, but I don't know anyone wishing for 10,000 Days part 2. I enjoyed the album when it came out but it was the first lukewarm Tool album for me. 9 hours ago, justin_cole12 said: Rosetta Stoned is like the coolest song ever written. The story in that song is fascinating. I haven't played the album in ages, but that was the highlight for me. bubb4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2notepockets Posted August 8, 2019 Share Posted August 8, 2019 Track is pretty poor for mine, boring AF 10 mins of tacked on typical Tool by the numbers shit all over this... bubb4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubb4 Posted August 8, 2019 Share Posted August 8, 2019 This new song is pretty boring. I thought we were supposed to get repress info? Give me that Ænima and Lateralus on black vinyl. Keep the picture discs for the tool army or whatever. Plarocks and Derek™ 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcpherson123 Posted August 8, 2019 Share Posted August 8, 2019 I find it really weird. I have not listened to "Fear Inoculum" yet. I've heard "Invincible" and "Descending" live in person and on some super high quality live bootlegs on YouTube. I think compositionally in terms of song structure, those two songs feels Lateralus-styled but progressed from that point of composition. It did not really feel like a continuation of 10,000 Days. Obviously each player has their own signature style but I think its doing oneself a great disservice to not attempt to look past the surface of the sound the band has and find the subtle uniqueness that each song builds using those same ingredients. If you half-listen to any of their songs waiting for a special guest to come in and do a hook and flip the whole dynamic of the core band on its head, you're listening to the wrong band. If you're looking for traditional tropes of a growing and changing artist or band that is led by a single songwriter who decides now we have a fiddle and an accordion on this track and then we have a piano leading these two tracks and we're ex-Beatles who are writing 3 minute pop songs, you're listening to the wrong band. These guys paint with the same brushes and explore how to make new textures using the same types of voices and the same exact instrumentation for the most part on every album. They go in a room and follow eachother's lead for a hours on end and construct "songs" using the parts they liked best from the improvised communications they share using essentially the same 3 to 4 instruments, the electric of which are generally dialed into to produce the same types of sounds as they've made for all the albums they've done together. They may progress in some ways on their own instruments but they have their established voices. If you're not coming to Tool with this realization and you don't find yourself interested in how they will paint the soundscape under these particular circumstantial/instrumental constants then I don't know why you would keep expecting to be wowed only to be let down. We all know how Tool writes. We know the process. We know the instruments. You have to be looking at their output from the standpoint of knowing the limitations of what's included. Not mad. Just sayin'. dobyblue, thebaucom, faaip de oiad and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shelby Posted August 8, 2019 Share Posted August 8, 2019 Look a Tool fan explaining Tool Plarocks, OU818, tape and 9 others 2 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N8TRU Posted August 8, 2019 Share Posted August 8, 2019 7 hours ago, holyvacantsholyhell said: I’ve been here for a year or so and I’ve never seen someone get the banhammer. Will today be the day? I sure hope so. Someone in this thread got a temporary ban Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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